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EPISODE · Mar 13, 2025 · 46 MIN

25. “Hacking College:” A Conversation with Ned Scott Laff and Scott Carlson

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In this conversation, EdUp Provost host Gregor Thuswaldner engages with Ned Scott Laff and Scott Carlson, co-authors of 'Hacking College,' to discuss the evolving landscape of higher education. They challenge the traditional focus on college majors, advocating for a broader perspective that emphasizes personalized fields of study and experiential learning. The discussion covers the need for cultural shifts in curriculum design, the importance of proactive advising, and strategies to streamline transfer processes. They also highlight the significance of interdisciplinary collaboration in creating unique educational paths for students. In this conversation, Laff and Carlson discuss the challenges and opportunities in higher education, focusing on student persistence, mentorship, and the need for cultural change within institutions. They emphasize the importance of leveraging campus resources and creating a supportive environment for students, particularly those from low-income backgrounds. The discussion also highlights various case studies that illustrate the diverse experiences of students and the potential for positive change through innovative strategies. Takeaways The major is often a limiting frame for students. Students should view their education as a field of study, not just a major. The empty college degree raises questions about the value of education. Provosts can influence cultural dynamics without structural changes. Advising should empower students to take control of their education.  

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