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EPISODE · Jul 10, 2026 · 42 MIN

#26 Margaret MacMillan: Trump, Putin and the End of the Liberal World Order

from The Next Best with Marcel Dirsus · host Marcel Dirsus

Historian Margaret MacMillan explains why Trump's foreign policy is unprecedented, what Putin wants, and whether the liberal international order is coming to an end.What happens when the world's most powerful democracy begins turning away from its closest allies?In this episode of The Next Best, Marcel Dirsus sits down with renowned historian Margaret MacMillan to discuss Donald Trump's foreign policy, Vladimir Putin's ambitions, Xi Jinping's legacy, the future of NATO, the war in Ukraine, and the future of the international order.

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