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Oct 26, 2020 37 min

263: Before the Acorns

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Can you really fly close enough to the sun to melt wax wings? Why does it take a minute for hot water to come out of the tap? Where are non-binary people from? Why shouldn't I eat grass? Do Americans have to pay fire insurance? What's topsoil? Hank Green and John Green have answers!If you're in need of dubious advice, email us at [email protected] us for monthly livestreams and an exclusive weekly podcast at patreon.com/dearhankandjohn.Follow us on Twitter! twitter.com/dearhankandjohn If you're in need of dubious advice, email us at [email protected]. Join us for monthly livestreams at patreon.com/dearhankandjohn. Follow us on Twitter! twitter.com/dearhankandjohn

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Or is that first thing with Dear John and Hank? It's a podcast where two brothers answer your questions, give you a advice and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. John, you know, originally people put pumpkins on their doorsteps to scare people away, to scare away potential burglars. Did you know this?

No, they were security gourds. Yeah, I mean, it's okay. I, we put pumpkins by our doorstep, but not for any Halloween related reason, just because it makes the squirrels so frickin' happy. I would estimate that our pumpkins are on the front doorstep for 14 nanoseconds before the squirrels piece it together.

And I have to say, Hank, this is admittedly my first fall ever in my life spending a lot of time outside. So I've been shocked by a number of things. But maybe the biggest shock for me is how many acorns there are, like how many acorns are produced by each other. There are millions, literally millions, and they fall like missiles from the sky.

And you can hear them like falling through the leaves. And then when they hit like the pavement, they bounce up and they like sometimes they bounce like two or three feet after landing. And I'm like, if one of these hits me, I'm going to be in a serious amount of pain, but they're falling constantly, like going, you could, they're just whistling through the leaves constantly. My point is, there are plenty of acorns to support our local squirrel population, right?

Like, yeah, I don't know what an average year is for acorns. But this year, like, there are billions from like what 30 squirrels and yet still they're like, no, I think I'll eat the jat-a-lantern that the kids work so hard on. Yeah, I mean, I bet the shat-a-lantern tastes better also is good to mix it up. Like, you don't want to eat the same thing every day.

Yeah, I guess so. I suppose there's some benefit to some nutritional variety, but my understanding, and again, this is from a guy who never spent meaningful time outside until about seven months ago, my understanding has always been that squirrels eat acorns. The way that for instance, like koalas eat whatever that thing is, they eat okeleptus. Where are all the squirrels as I'm like stubbing my toe left and right on acorns?

That, I mean, it is amazing. It is a tremendous amount of food. We have a lot of fruit trees along like the boulevards here in Montana, like people will plant like pear and plum and cherry trees. And so you guys walk around during the fruit season and just people put signs on their trees, like, please take cherries and you just walk around and like grab fruit off trees and put it in your mouth, which one seems magical.

But too, like literally, if you don't, the ground gets like slimy with food. It's amazing. That is really gross. Trees are great.

Plants are great. We're very lucky to have little bags of sugary water that just exist just for us. Not just for us, but yeah. And for the trees, I guess it helps the tree at some point as well to serve us.

I suppose as human-built systems have been put under a fair amount of strain in the last year, I've been increasingly impressed by the quality of natural systems. They do a really quite a good job actually. The trees and the squirrels and the coyotes and the bacteria and the river, all of these things seem to work together in something of a web that really functions okay for them. Of course, there are some losers, obviously, but like really seems to function pretty well for them.

Yeah, absolutely. Hopefully we can work it out so that we get to coexist. And most of we just get to keep existing is what I'm going for. Yes.

I want to keep eating pomps. That's not my main priority, but the underlying idea I agree with. Let's ask some questions from our listeners. This first one comes from Amino who writes, Dear John Hink, is it really possible to fly close enough to the sun that your wax wings would melt?

Isn't it like pretty cold up there? John, there is a 2013 paper called Chargrilled Icarus Wings and establishes in this paper the students at the University of what was it? Roehampton. Lester.

Shrewsberry. It was Lester. Tinkleworth. They got great names there.

Smythington. It's Lester, right? Light Chester is Lester. It's Lester.

Yeah. So they established that due to solar radiation and the climate around Crete, it would take between 42 and 67 minutes for the wax to melt. But the distance to the sun would not have been the problem. It would just have been the part where it was outside.

Okay, so it's not really the problem with a wax-winged glider. Well, there's a number. Yeah. It's not ultimately that you're flying too close to the sun.

Yes. It's that you're flying outside on too warm of a day. Yes. And it is important to note that the people who came up with the story of Icarus didn't have a real good understanding of where exactly the sun was.

Sure. So this is understandable. But you think that thing is hot. If I get closer to it, it will be hotter.

That's not what I mean, it is the case once you get out of the atmosphere. But while inside of the atmosphere, it is not the case because we've got all this air that's confounding the system. But my question is, assuming Icarus had a space suit and very high-powered wax wings and could actually leave the atmosphere and fly toward the sun, the wings would melt eventually. Oh, yeah.

No, I think they might melt no matter what. It's actually quite hot in space around as long as you're not in the shade. Just like Florida. Then there isn't a ton of shade in space.

Again, very similar to my experiences growing up in Florida. I have vivid memories of waiting for the bus and fighting with the other kids, waiting for the bus over who was going to get the shade that was created by the stop sign. Everybody wanted their head to be like where the stop sign shade was. Admittedly, it was harder for me because I was wearing a trench coat.

But still, even if I hadn't been a committed trench coat wearer in high school, it would have been very warm. You thought that that trench coat was so cool that I thought it was cool and I wore it later. Oh, God, I loved it so much. I loved it so much that I let it ruin your life too.

And I look at the only shopping memory I can remember having. You could ask me where I got anything that I'm currently wearing or ever wear, and I'll be like, who knows? Things just happen. But that trench coat, we were in a store with mom and dad and I think Nanny and pop-all.

Oh, no. And it was a very fancy, it's the kind of store where you're just there and it lasts forever. When your parents are shopping, it just lasts an astonishing amount of time. So I'm just walking around feeling like whatever, this is so lame.

And then suddenly, there it is, it's a beautiful forest green trench coat. And I was like, wow, and I put it on. And I was like, oh my God, I look amazing. And I showed my parents and they were like, yeah, but they're so supportive, you know?

Yeah, I remember that they got it for me, which I do really appreciate, although in retrospect, like maybe the right call mom and dad would have been like, I'm going to say X-Nay on the trench coat. You can't control it. You can't control it. And also it had those big brass clippies.

Hell, those brass clippies were so cool. They were so big. Is there a picture of the trench coat somewhere? I don't think so.

I mean, maybe somewhere in a family album somewhere, but we were not, we were not standing for photos in that trench coat. No, no, when we posed for photos, I think we were under pretty strict instructions to go ahead and take off the trench coat, followed by a long sigh, followed by a statement under the breath along the lines of, it is 110 degrees outside, after all. I didn't understand that shade actually helped that much until I moved to Montana, where it can be like uncomfortably cold in the shade and uncomfortably warm in the sun, because there's nothing in the air to carry heat around. Right.

And in Florida, there's so much stuff in the air that like the non shade invades the shade constantly via water molecules that contain the heat. Right. I think what Hank is trying to say is that it's a dry heat in Montana, whereas in Florida, it's the wettest heat. It's so wet.

It's like a soup. John, this next question comes from Lily, who asks, Dear Hank and John, when I turn on the hot water tap, is the process of making it hot, a function of time or the amount of water? I feel bad letting a bunch of cold water flow while I wait for it to heat up, but I always thought I had to clear the cold water out before the hot water could come through. Yeah, that's right.

I'm wondering if that's actually the case, not a plumber, Lily. That's that's right. It's not right. I feel horrible.

No, that's correct. There's cold water in the pipes and the hot water has to push it out. Oh, thank goodness. Yeah.

So you are your bathtub water will heat up much faster than your sink water because more water comes out the bathtub. Right. That's always been my experience. But then I started to question my own personal experience of the world to be fair.

I've been doing that a lot lately. I mean, this is the case if you have a hot water tank and not like on-demand hot water at the place, which is very unusual, but some very wealthy people have that. Since reading Lily's question, Hank, I have been really bothered about this. So it is a relief to hear that I while I am wasting water, obviously, I'm wasting hopefully a minimal amount of water.

And I will say, Lily, if you're like me and you love a bath, what I always recommend is go ahead and plug up the bathtub before you start because yeah, it's going to be cold water at first. But then the water after that is going to be so piping deliciously hot that it'll even out. All right, we got another question. This one comes from Piper who writes, Dear John and Hank, so there's this phrase, men are from Mars, women are from Venus.

Most of y'all didn't have to live through this phrase the way that I did. It was a thing. It was like a cultural institution. It really was.

It was like a shared, it was evidence that humans can experience really profound shared delusions. Anyway, Piper writes, so there's this phrase, men are from Mars, women are from Venus. And I'm non-binary. Where am I from?

Not. This is great. I'm not by Piper. Yeah, you're from Earth, like all the other humans.

John, can I interrupt you and say the word en- Venus? What does that mean? It's like Venus, but non-binary. En- Venus.

En- Venus. Did it work? No. No, and this is not a time for dad jokes.

I mean, it's never the time for dad jokes, but right now is- I think in Venus, I think that there are dozens of people all across the world right now. Yes. Chuckling slightly. Some people are chuckling slightly, and to them we say thank you.

But yeah, you are from Earth. Everybody is from Earth that we know of. There may be a couple exceptions, Superman, etc. But pretty much everybody is from Earth.

I think what people responded to so much about that concept was that it articulated a lot of constructs about masculinity and femininity that felt real because constructs are a kind of real. Yeah, and I guess just like it's hard to get into the headspace of the 80s, where we had really spent- or we had been- like we, I was a child, where people had been given no reason or no expectation to understand people who were different from them, especially Manhattan, ever been given that. And to some extent that has certainly held on, but really like not at all back then. And so I guess maybe it was a chance.

The argument is that it counted as progressive because it was at least asking men to imagine that there were people who were different from them. It was the very first step of human empathy, where you have to understand that not everyone is just like you. And you know what, maybe that's what it was. Maybe that's what we could do in 1984.

Maybe that was it. Maybe that was the best we could hope for. We're all from Earth. Gendering the solar system speaks to the depravity of the 1980s.

Oh gosh. John, this next question comes from Shane who asks, Dear Hank and John, I saw one of Hank's TikToks recently where he straight up said not to eat grass. But is there an explanation? Why?

I'm not planning on trying any, by the way. Not the movie Cowboy, Shane. I didn't even know about Shane, the movie Cowboy. That's where I am.

Hank, before you answer this question, I think we just need to acknowledge the elephant in the room, which is that I made a fourth TikTok in response to your TikTok about not eating grass. And in that TikTok, I talked about how about a third of all drinkable water in the United States goes to water, turfgrass, and how turfgrass is the most cultivated crop in the United States. By a long shot, we make more turfgrass than we do corn and wheat combined, et cetera. And not to brag, but the TikTok exploded.

And I am a TikTok sensation once again. And I feel alive. And you got to do that once every two months. You got to come in and be like, I am a TikTok.

I only make solid gold TikToks. And I'll be out here just being like, pelicans, not peppers. Hank's strategy is to make 85 TikToks for everyone I make. In fact, that's what I do.

I wait probably about right now. I wait until Hank has made 85 TikToks since my last one. And then I just start to stretch out my TikTok muscles, start to think like, well, what am I? What solid gold blood TikTok am I going to make next?

Just wait. So I never answered the question why you shouldn't need grass on TikTok. And I do not. It's not actually that complicated of an answer.

Well, it is. It isn't. Like anything. What I think is interesting about the question and why I haven't answered it yet is that like, what's interesting about the answer is like what I'm always asking myself because I don't think it's very hard to teach someone something if you don't have like some interestingness around it.

And so is it interesting that grass contains silica and silica will wear down your teeth? I guess. But what's silica? It's like sand?

Why is there sand in grass? Maybe that's interesting. Is it interesting that our stomachs can't like our stomachs aren't designed to digest cellulose, but other animals like cows and sheep, they have stomachs that can digest cellulose. Wrong.

Interesting. Or is that what is wrong? And it gets to what is, what is in my opinion, interesting about grass digestion that the stomachs don't do it at all that the microbes do? Yes.

Yeah. Cows could not live without microbes. Right. Cows require bacteria to be slathering the insides of their bodies in order to survive.

Right. Cows do not exist as an independent life form because they are absolutely 100% required to have a microbial infestation. And like, because we've talked so much about the microbiome recently with regards to humans, you might be thinking, well, that's true of humans too. It's not.

It's not. You could survive. Yes. Without microbes.

And God, would I like to? No, you wouldn't. It would be worse. Well, I'm sure that my life would be worse, but I feel like my OCD would be much better.

Yeah. Your digestion would definitely be worse. Oh, that would suck. And also, like, it would leave you very open to potentially pathogenic colonization from bad microbes.

Oh, great. So it wouldn't do anything about my fear of being contaminated by bacteria? No, it would make you much more likely to get intestinal overgrowth. All right.

Then I guess I'll stick with the current horrible situation then. Yeah. So we can't eat grass because we don't have the same gut bacteria. Yeah.

And our guts aren't designed to foster them. But then also, right. And we don't have like the multi-chambered stomach that counts and all that stuff. I think that's what's interesting.

That is interesting. I like that a lot. There's also the question of, like, what is it about cellulose, which is just a glucose polymer? Yeah.

Just like all the other sugar polymers we do eat. What is it about cellulose that makes it so that it is a structural thing that is much harder to break down than starch, which is just a glucose polymer, just a little bit chemically different. So there's all these like reasons why we can't eat grass. And it's just like, it's not simple.

It's surprisingly complicated. It's like, obviously, like, the simple answer is like, if you put grass in your mouth, you will be like, this is gross and obviously I shouldn't eat it. And a cow on the other hand puts grass in their mouth and like, this is good. And I should eat it because that's how their taste buds work, I guess.

But I just love that the deeper and more you look, that's to me where it opens up doors and you're like, oh, so you're saying that like a potato is just a glucose polymer and I think it's delicious. And that cellulose is also just a glucose polymer. But like, I literally would just poop it out whole. Yeah.

Another thing on this front that's really interesting is that corn was around for a while before humans figured out how to eat it because it has a cellulose coating. Right. And so tens of thousands of years ago, humans had to figure out a way to like selectively breed corn to make it better for human consumption. Yes.

And do you know what kind of plant corn is John? Yes, it's a grass. So is wheat. So many other things.

Rice is a grass. So we eat grass all the time. It just keeps getting more interesting. Okay.

We've got either so much to talk about with grass. I am fascinated by it. Like, I really feel like if aliens came down from space, their very first question for us would be, so why do you worship and lavish resources upon this small green God that grows in all of your front yards? The grass.

And we would be like, Oh, well, like in the tree, England, it was like a status symbol. And somehow it's still happening. I feel like that so many so many mysteries that are really confounding turn out to be super boring in their answer. You know, yeah, I feel like most of the questions aliens would have for us.

We would be the answer would be so disappointing. I probably imagined some vast conspiracy involving the grass God. And then they come down and it's just like, you know, we got to put something in the front lawn to prevent erosion and like, is this the most efficient one? Good to walk on.

No, but it's relatively good to walk on and like pretty easy to cut. Yeah, it's I mean, there's advantages. And so we give, you know, 33% of our water to it. Yeah, as yeah, well, yeah.

Yeah. And by the way, this is not been as a criticism. I have grass in my yard, and I enjoy walking on or I did enjoy walking on it before all the dang acorns. All right, this question comes from William who writes here, John, and hey, come from the UK.

So I find the US health care system completely baffling and amoral. Oh, you don't have to be from the UK, William. You could be from a number of countries. I was thinking about the fact that you guys have to pay to call an ambulance, but then it occurred to me, do you have to pay if you call a fire engine?

I presume you don't like all pay fire brigade insurance like you do with health insurance. Maybe it's covered by homeowners insurance. No. William Smith.

I mean, it's just it's so interesting because like we think all these things are just like, this is the way that it is. You pay for an ambulance. You don't pay for a fire truck. But no, like fire trucks are paid for by taxes because it's bad for everybody.

If any building starts burning and the fire department is like, well, they don't have fire insurance. So we're going to let that one burn down. And then it's like, yeah, but what about the one next door that it's like throwing fire on to? Right.

Well, and for a long time, there was private fire insurance. And it was so bad. It was so bad. And it became clear how bad it was in a series of fires in European cities where people were like, this system seems to result in all of the buildings burning, regardless of whether some are attempted to be saved.

Yeah. So maybe we can't like, you can't just say, I can't save the 30% of the city, the rest of it burned the whole thing burns down. Yeah. Now there are occasions in US life where it is customary to pay for public services, but fire departments are not usually one of them.

Although there is now a rise in these private fire protection agencies that are essentially privately funded fire trucks that go out and try to save houses during wildfires for homeowners insurance companies and stuff. But that's a separate issue. There is a publicly funded fire prevention system in the United States. Yeah.

Well, I mean, it's local. So it's not really a system. It's different in different places. And that's true.

And in many cases, it's a volunteer fire department. Yes, that's true. And there are in very rare circumstances, there are what's called emergency response fees, where you have to pay if the fire department comes to your house. But those are illegal in most places.

Right. The difference that is often cited between fire insurance and health insurance is what was cited earlier that with fires, there's a huge chance of widespread contagion. And that is like less the case, at least in the way that the healthcare system is usually imagined in the United States, which is as a system that serves individuals, rather than as a system that serves a public. Now, of course, now, of course, individual bad health care outcomes have all kinds of consequences for communities and for families and the system doesn't make sense, William.

And so if I'm trying to defend it, my defense is not going to make sense. Yes. So that's fun. That's fun.

Johnny, you want to hear about dirt? Very much so. This next question comes from Joe, who has steer, Hank and John, I don't understand topsoil. I know it's between more nutritious, but well, first of all, that's the wrong word.

Don't eat dirt. Also, don't eat dirt. But like, don't most plants have roots more than six inches long? What is the soil under topsoil called?

Why does no one talk about bottom soil? If I dig up six inches of soil, does the now exposed soil become the top soil? Viva, bottom soil. Joe, I love it.

Yeah, really looking out for the underdog in the soil category. Well, and let me tell you, if you talk to a soil scientist, they will also be really frustrated that more people are talking about all the different kinds of soil, because they know all about it. And there are horizons, which is great. So the horizons of soil.

Oh, beautiful. So there are the master horizons, which are labeled John, and I will tell you, because this makes perfect sense. O, A, B, C, and R are, of course, is bedrock. So they I'm already excited about this classification system.

They've really got the master horizons of soil worked out. There's also sub categories of these horizons, as you might expect, and they exist in some places, they don't exist in others. But what you need to know is that, as water moves through soil, it carries nutrients out. And so that top layer is where the nutrients haven't yet been carried out of the soil.

Now, the top layer might be six inches, it might be six feet. So like topsoil is topsoil, whether you've taken it out of the ground, whether you've buried it deep beneath the ground, it's not where it is, it's what it's composed of. And so you've got this, like, organic layer on the very top that is not soil, it's just like decaying plants and animal stuff. And then there's the topsoil, which is the surface layer of all the good stuff.

And topsoil is really good. And in some places, it's very deep, and it will last a long time. And in some places, it's very shallow, and it's very easy to have it wash away if you overwater or over till or etc. And so you end up in situations where you don't have enough soil.

This, I assume, was a response to a question we asked a while ago about whether we're going to run out of topsoil, which, unless we change agriculture, probably, yes. Okay, well, I'm glad to know that there are classifications of soil. And the people who study this stuff will crawl over mountains to tell you about it. It's just that people don't usually ask questions like these.

So I'm glad that you are, Joe. And that reminds me that today's podcast is brought to you by R. It means bedrock. This podcast is also brought to you by all the dang acorns.

All the dang acorns. Don't go where shoes outside now. And of course, this podcast is brought to you by crispy, Icarus wings. Crispy, Icarus wings.

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You can. Hank, before we get to the all important news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon, it's vitally important that I share a bunch of wonderful news with you which is that many people wrote in to let us know that our encouragement to get them to check their voter registration or to vote or to vote earlier to make a voting plan. The key is to make a voting plan and my personal key is to make sure that I have a vote accountability buddy with whom I can text immediately after voting to let them know that I voted I already voted and so did my vote accountability buddy. Hooray.

On that front claire wrote in to let us know that she and her vote accountability buddy Sophia are voting or have voted which is wonderful. Thank you. But so many people Hank wrote in to say that actually our encouragement to get them to check their registration and make sure that that they can vote have worked. So thank you and please vote if you are eligible to do so in the US elections and Taylor wrote in to answer a question.

Taylor worked on how to vote in every state our YouTube channel which you can go to to find out how to vote in your state and Taylor said I have an answer for Cavita's question about how to stop being bothered about voting when they already planned a vote. My answer is vote early. This will vary from state to state depending on how much info each state's election authorities make available but in most places this will work while who you vote for is secret whether you vote is a matter of public record and in past campaigns that Taylor has worked on they get a file every night from the secretary of state with a list of every person who turned in a ballot that day and they'd strike all the people from the lists who had already voted so they wouldn't call them they wouldn't text them they wouldn't send them fires anymore they wouldn't knock on doors because so that they can focus on the people who haven't voted yet so this doesn't work as well for ads because you can't target us specifically with advertising but voting on the first day you can usually stops all the calls and texts which is another wonderful reason to vote early reliably pestering you to vote. Taylor I have indeed noticed a steep decline in the number of people calling and texting me in the last six days ever since I voted early.

That's amazing it's like yeah why don't they just say that we're going to keep texting you to the vote. I also loved voting early it was my first time ever voting early I've always been an election day voter but this time I was like you know what I don't know what the lines are going to be like I want to make things as safe and easy as possible for people who might be at risk we might have to vote on election day so I decided to vote early and it was a really great experience for me voting has always been a really good experience but yeah just just on voting early to be just for me way superior definitely going to stick with it in the future. Nice. John and news from Mars this week the Tesla Roadsters space road trip so do you remember this that you lost launch one of his cars into space.

It is passed by Mars so yeah they launched it on a Falcon Heavy rocket in 2018 with Starman at the driver's seat and it's still traveling through space without any fuel needed to propel the rocket which means that scientists can calculate where the car is based on data from when it left Earth so we don't have like a GPS on there we don't know where it is because we can like talk to it we just have done the math so now the car is just like floating around in space in an elliptical orbit on October 7th it crossed paths with Mars 4.6 million miles away from Mars but across the orbit Mars is going to look pretty small if you were in the Roadster looking out at it it wouldn't look like if it'd be smaller than the moon but not like a dot so like you could see it as a planet and they're supposed to get close to Earth so it's coming back toward us on November 5th it'll be 32 million miles away real close and at some point in the next 10 million years the Roadster will crash into Earth Venus or the Sun. Well when that day comes if it's Earth I hope it doesn't hurt anyone because as publicity stunts go it was successful until and it was this human harm that we talk about people on Earth 10 million years from now being like what is that why did that oh that guy I went back on the old Wikipedia and looked it up is that guy oh you know and I'm sure by the way in that glorious human future 50 million years from now that AFC Wimbledon will be applying their trade in the top flight of whatever country that island is part of and I will probably won't exist anymore and it will be glorious indeed South London's own underwater soccer phenomenon AFC Wimbledon I don't think it'll be underwater I think that it will have crashed against another continent but before then there is much happening Hank closer and closer to the magical date when Wimbledon will play their first game at Plow Lane you'll recall my creeping suspicion and shock that AFC Wimbledon might be good this year uh-huh well it turns out that was a little premature we lost to Shrewsbury that's not great it was the way we lost was particularly we lost on a last second corner kick um it was it was nil-nil and pretty boring but I think Wimbledon probably had slightly better chances and then Shrewsbury scored on a corner kick in the last minute of the game and I was watching it on my phone with Henry my son and he I didn't get like super upset because I don't know if you know this thing but I've made a commitment not to get emotionally invested in negative football outcomes so like I don't have emotional responses anymore to negative football outcomes so if for instance Liverpool the team that I have supported for most of my life tie 2-2 against Everton and in the process our best player is uh injured by their goalkeeper in what would have been a red card in any normal world but we don't live in a normal world we live in a world that worships machine thinking and so if the video assistant referee says it wasn't a red card it wasn't a red card like usually that would have made me pretty angry but fortunately I made this commitment but I don't have negative emotional experiences and responses to football outcomes anymore so I was already you know in that mindset and then in the last basically the last kick of the game Shrewsbury town scored to win the game because we just got lazy on a corner kick and Henry looked at me and he said it's a good thing you don't have those negative uh emotions oh god oh god that sounds rough John and you had you did they only had one shot on target they only had one shot on target but it was it was the one yeah yeah they did not look I don't think Shrewsbury are a great team there was one moment where they were they were passing like Barcelona they completed like 18 short passes in a row like tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki tikki and then one of the Wimbledon players got the ball and just kicked at 60 yards really high up into the air and I was like that's my team I'm with those guys I'm with the kick it hard crew oh my god oh well I'm gonna watch these highlights now I mean get ready for a snooze fest you got some good shots on goal yeah we got a couple good opportunities but they also had a couple whatever you know it's sports it's their dear english football yes quite well John thank you for making a podcast with me it's been a pleasure we are now off to record our patreon only podcast this weekend stuff which you can get at patreon.com slash your handcon john the money from that goes to complexly to make things like social and crash course I'm looking forward to something that's making us happy right now if you want to send me questions you can do that at hankajonajino.com thank you everybody who sends your questions it's very important to us because otherwise we don't have a podcast yeah so thank you this podcast is edited by joseph tuna medics produced by rosion hollstone shared in gibson our communications coordinator is julia bloom our editorial assistant is the bokei trucker fardi the music you're hearing now and they're getting the podcast is by the great ganerova and as they say in our hometown don't forget to be awesome

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