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It's a comedy podcast in which me and my brother John and see your questions. We'll give you some debuts advice and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. Hank, we've got a very special guest today. My daughter Alice is here in the studio with me.
Hi, I'll go ahead. Oh, hi Alice. And now she's off to go watch Elmo. How are you Hank?
I'm good. How are you doing? I'm doing well. We raised $1.5 million in the 2015 Project for Awesome for organizations including Save the Children and the United Nations High Commission on Refugees and that is very exciting to me.
It is very exciting and somewhat unexpectedly. I think that I did not know what's going to happen. We have been able to keep some of the perks up thanks to Indiegogo and if you would like to get that exclusive episode of Dear Hank and John that is only available through the Project for Awesome, you can still do that at Project for Awesome.com.com. donate.
Great. Delicious bonus episode. So go ahead and do that Project for Awesome.com. It's going to taste like ice cream.
What flavor? Justice. What's going to taste like ice cream? Donating to charity?
Yeah or just the podcast, the exclusive podcast you're going to get? Oh sure. It's going to be a flavorful podcast. Is there any way we could move on to the short poem of the day?
That's fine with me. I mean there's a bunch of short poems today that I'm thinking about Hank but I think I'm going to go with He Tells Her by Wendy Cope. Are you familiar with this poem? I don't think so.
It's the world's best poem about mansplaining. Are you familiar with mansplaining? I sure am. Okay.
This is called He Tells Her by Wendy Cope. He tells her that the earth is flat. He knows the facts and that is that. In altercations, fears and long, she tries her best to prove him wrong but he has learned to argue well.
He calls her arguments unsound and often asks her not to yell. She cannot win. He stands his ground. The planet goes on being round.
Boom. Drop the mic. It is indeed a boom worthy poem Hank. I think boom is the only response to that great poem.
He tells her by Wendy Cope. Oh yeah. What else do we do in the beginning of the podcast? I feel like we got through the beginning real fast.
Usually we talk about some of our drama, some of our difficulties in life but I'm not really feeling that. I'm feeling so good after the product for awesome. I got a bunch of shirts. I'm going to send people out painting hankler fish art.
I'm a little overwhelmed, a little bit behind with work but you know so am I always. So that's yeah. Maybe we should just go on with the questions. Yeah you sound wound up pretty tight but I like I like tightly wound Hank.
Let's start. Well I also I downloaded Dub Smash this morning so I'm just very excited about Dub Smash. You know my friend Cara de Levine was huge into Dub Smash when we were promoting the paper towns movie and she showed it to me and we did a bunch of them together and she kept asking if she could put them on Instagram and I kept saying no. So somewhere on Cara's phone are some very very damaging Dub Smashes of Cara and me singing to various songs.
That is a beautiful potential project for awesome perk that I wish I had known about before now. No no no no never. Let's answer some questions from readers Hank. Alright let's do that.
Let's begin with this question from Sloan Hank who writes Dear John and Hank my boyfriend is not able to get home to spend the holidays with his family this year. My parents decided to invite him to spend Christmas even Christmas Day with my family. I'm very excited about this but I'm also nervous about it being awkward for him because my family is very close and we have lots of traditions. Do you have any advice for how my family and I can make him feel comfortable?
Oh well I think you guys should get matching sweaters. Oh all of yes. It's basically one step away from an engagement so it's quite it's quite a commitment to make but if you all got matching sweaters I think you'd feel like part of the family. I would argue that getting matching sweaters is in fact far more of a commitment than an engagement.
It's easy to walk away from an engagement. Walking away from matching sweaters is almost impossible. Well I mean just being part of somebody's Christmas photos too like that might be a thing that happens. You're gonna wear matching sweaters.
You're gonna be in for the Christmas tree. You're gonna set the timer for 10 seconds and you're gonna stand there awkwardly smiling being like how could this possibly be 10 seconds? It's gone on forever and then finally it clicks and I mean basically you're married. Yeah well I mean I have two different former partners as you know Hank who were invited to Christmas over the years and who ended up not becoming spouses and indeed my main conclusion from having been on both sides of this coin both the person who welcomes in a non-married partner to a non-committed long-term committed partner to a Christmas and the person who like goes to someone else's Christmas.
My main conclusion is that you don't really need to welcome them because if they are going to be a good fit they will just be a good fit like it'll just work because you know I suspect that your boyfriend will treat this as a sort of anthropological experiment you know he's mostly going to be bearing witness to these weird holiday traditions that you and your family have put together over the years and and there's something really fun about doing that like there's something fun about seeing someone you love in a completely new context. Indeed it may be awkward but I think that I think that it depends on obviously how he approaches the situation but I think it's gonna be fun. I think it's gonna be a fun time and the fact that you're you're concerned about it and you're thinking about it means you probably are gonna be well prepared for it. We've got another question this one is from Kelly who asks with Lin-Manuel Miranda being a 2015 MacArthur fellow and the success of Hamilton I was curious as to what historical figure you think might make a great musical hip-hop has made an impact with Hamilton is there any genre of music you would like to see brought to the stage.
Yes. So I'm gonna say I'm gonna say like what's the historical figure and the genre of music you want to see them paired with John. Sure no for me it's definitely the barbershop quartet take on the life of Genghis Khan. Yes yes yes yes so I'm actually not even gonna try to trademark or copyright that idea Broadway producers who also listen to Dear Hank and John you are more than welcome to go ahead and make that the barbershop quartet Genghis Khan.
Well John I was gonna tell you mine but it seems so pathetic and pale in comparison that it will just seem like I'm trying too hard so we're gonna move on and just stick with barbershop quartet of Genghis Khan because that's way better than mine. All right I will I will I will bask in the glory of my victory and ask you this question which comes from Matt. Dear John and Hank in your last podcast you mentioned that Dear Hank and John is not sponsored by its listeners via Patreon. Will the questions asked on the normal podcast be from patrons only or from non-supporting listeners as well i.e.
do I have to pay to get my question answered. Great question Matt that you didn't pay to get answered. Indeed no I don't really like I mean I guess I can see the benefit of that but you know from my perspective this podcast is supposed to be sort of equally open to all and anything that we do on the Patreon is just kind of a bonus that isn't really related to the core product. That's also how we treat the SciShow and Crash Course Patrons you know the idea is more of an NPR style model where some listeners support it so that all listeners can enjoy it.
Indeed indeed and I want to say you are not the only person who has had that question but it's it's possible that we will we will subconsciously accidentally do this and we will do our best not to but you know we will be looking at the questions from the Patreon and the questions from the email just as we also look at questions from Facebook and Twitter and I think also maybe even occasionally Tumblr and there are some other people who have general feedback from previous episodes. For example Liam says in a recent podcast you talked about how your drink is on the right when you are seated formally if you make a circle with your thumb and index finger it forms a D on the right hand and a B on the left hand for drink your drink being on the right and your bagel your bagel being on the left or bread or any type of bread whatever type of bread it is usually when I go to a fancy dinner though it's my drink on the left and my bagel on or my drink on the right my bagel on the left. How often do you go to fancy dinners with bagels? All the fanciest best fancy dinners have bagels instead of like just like what just like bread like a roll that's just come on you get a whole bagel if it's a fancy dinner.
I don't usually like to criticize your your lack of understanding of proper luxury hank because in general I think that it is a character asset rather than a character flaw but if I may ask you a personal question how many total Michelin stars have the restaurants that you've eaten in your life accrued? Well I do know that a lot of my favorite restaurants have Michelin tires. You've heard my feelings as someone who values proper luxury you have made me call into question my entire worldview let's move on to a question from Caitlyn who asks dear John and Hank why are many M&Ms so much more delicious than regular M&Ms that's actually well a math question yeah it's just wrong it's it is a math question it's also it's also false it is deeply false and you are and like I do not understand your ridiculous perspective however the reason why they are worse is that they have a higher surface area to volume ratio a sphere's volume and I know an M&M is not a sphere but we're approximating this is actually the case for any any volume is it it is a cubed factor so you it's pie I think it's pie times four thirds times the radius cubed yeah pretty sure whereas the surface area of a sphere the surface area of the surface area of a space whereas the surface area of a sphere is pie r squared so as r goes up as the radius of the sphere goes up the volume increases much faster as it is the cube rather than the surface area which is just a square so bigger M&Ms have less candy shell per unit of chocolate than smaller M&Ms they try to actually try to make up for this by making the the candy coating thinner on mini M&Ms which to me is like that also makes it worse because you get less crunch and also you get more like food coloring per unit of candy which can't be good I don't know if that actually affects the taste but it seems like it would but in a bigger M&M there is much more chocolate per unit of candy which I think is better it obviously changes the taste substantially if apparently you Caitlyn like more candy in your M&M which is just a ridiculous position to have to summarize okay and the order is mini M&Ms are the worst regular M&Ms are the second to worst and peanut M&Ms are the single greatest achievement in the history of human beings you know the great thing about P&M&M's John is that in addition to being a fantastic candy they're also a really great food I'd eat a bowl of those for dinner with my bagel yeah they got the protein they've got the fat they've got the sugar I don't think there's anything else that you I wonder how long you could stay alive on just peanut M&Ms you know probably a pretty long time I bet there's some some essential fatty acids you're not getting maybe some maybe some some vitamins and minerals you're not quite squeezing in there probably not a lot of vitamin C and M&M but maybe you might get scurvy eventually you could fortify one I'd like to see a bowl of fortified with like you know some iodine and some you know maybe a little bit of vitamin C vitamin D just you know in my bowl of peanut M&Ms that I have a dinner with with you know with my drinker on the right my bagel on the way oh you sound like very very enthusiastic about the world like you might be on speed this question is from Rebecca who asks dear Hank and John while preparing dinner tonight I removed a previously opened a jar of pizza sauce from the refrigerator and noticed a single spot of mold no gone interior side of the jar the sauce remaining at the bottom of the jar appeared to have no mold on it at all can I still put the sauce on my pizza or does that spot of mold on the side of the jar render all of its contents unusable um what a great question let me answer your question with a question are you kidding me of course it renders the entire jar of pizza sauce unusable I just I can't even recycle that jar of pizza sauce you have to throw it away immediately take the trash bag that you have thrown it away in put that trash bag in your exterior trash receptacle and then just try to forget that the whole thing ever happened well I'm glad to know that this this is the occasion which which requires the very first bleeping on a deer hank and john I will agree with John though I will say it is probably not a good idea so so molds are fungi and they work in mysterious ways that the mold that you can see is not 100% or even the majority of the mold that's in their molds by the time you can see them are producing tons of spores which are flying all over the place and have probably started colonies that are currently invisible the mold actually has to penetrate into the food a little bit before it starts producing visible like the spore bodies that are the fuzzy things that you actually see and usually like this is fine in small quantities mold is not a big deal but there are certain molds that can be more dangerous they produce toxins that can make you sick so the safe thing is the garbage you probably only have to just close the jar though and put it in the garbage and not worry about or you could even wash it out you don't have to worry about touching the mold it's just it's just the eating it but if you're john though I suggest doing exactly what makes you feel safe hey this seems like a good time to bring up the fact that in answer to several people's requests I have compiled my top 10 causes of eschatological anxiety that is anxiety about the end of the world okay are you ready and tell me if you think that this order I mean this is a genuine order tell me if you think this this order makes sense to you okay number one apocalyptic bird flu and or flu caused by a different animal number two solar flare number three nuclear war that dramatically reduces the population of population of humans number four disappearance of earth's magnetic fields number five number five weaponized hemorrhagic virus like Ebola but weaponized number six volcanic super eruption number seven unexpected asteroid number eight artificial intelligence run amok which I call the Terminator scenario number nine nanotechnology run amok which I call the gray goos scenario and number 10 my personal day well of all those I'll say if we're talking about the likeliness it's definitely should start with your your personal death which I think is more likely than any of those things which is a great which is great news for the whole rest of the world but bad news for you know it's the worst possible news for me well except that maybe you would die in all of those other scenarios so maybe uh maybe it's it's basically like your personal death would occur in any of those scenarios so of course I'd be the most likely of all okay all right so I'm I'm moving 10 to one is there anything else that you would change you know I might move some of those things around but they're all pretty good scenarios in general I tend to fear human things more than I fear natural things because natural things happen on very long time scales and and there's very little you can do about them though there are something certainly that we're starting to prepare for for certain of these eventualities but um yeah I feel like humans are really unpredictable and I feel especially like with the advancing like the the rapid advance in science you start to see the tensions for people who don't have a ton of training being able to as you say weaponize something like hemorrhagic fever which would be real bad and and and maybe even to the to the point of like intentionally designing a flu that would be very dangerous and and then and then and then intentionally releasing that flu that's the kind of thing like that we have done we've intentionally designed extraordinarily dangerous flus yeah basically so that we can study how to treat them if they were to happen naturally yeah but the fact that that now we know that we can intentionally design very dangerous flus it seems like how far are we away from a point where that can be done at a laboratory that is not regulated and is owned or run by a small group of crazy people well to be fair I think I think that is inclusive of my number one concern apocalyptic bird flu um yeah I mean I think that apocalyptic bird flu uh and and intentionally weaponized bird intentionally weaponized artificial flu are kind of two separate things just like weaponized hemorrhagic fever is is different all right I mean I'm gonna go with one in one aid and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mess around my whole list just just just for that one little observation you well uh in general like that's that's something that scares me a lot uh and so I want to make sure that it's also scaring you because if it's staring me and it's not scaring you then there's definitely something wrong that's great to hear thank you for um thank you for that feedback um about me as a person I have another question for you Hank it comes from Chrissy who asks dear john and hank I've just listened to one of your podcasts where you were talking about how they have discovered water on Mars and how that means there is a possibility of life there my question is how do we know that if there is life on Mars it would be dependent upon water like we are wouldn't it be possible that they would be completely different from any other life form we know of um yeah this is so this is a question that I've I've you know it's spent a fair amount of time talking about it's also another science question I feel like we've had a lot of questions that could be answered with science this podcast so I appreciate that because it means that I will talk more on John will talk less unless you John want to take this one no thank you though chemistry works best first of all in a liquid liquids are they they have a lot of different interactions between all of the particles in the liquid so all the molecules and atoms in the liquids will interact more frequently uh and so liquid chemistry just a lot more gets done than in a gas where particles run into each other less often or in a solid where they don't move around they all stay in the same place in the same order so liquid chemistry is just good chemistry and we think that in order for life to happen at the moment like we think they're in order for life to happen there has to be good chemistry happening so if we're saying the life is based on chemistry and not on something else weird like plasma physics or something like that uh then we're gonna we're focused on liquids and water is a particularly good liquid for this kind of chemistry to happen because it uh it is polar and thus many different things can dissolve in it so stuff's really good at dissolving in water particularly various carbon compounds that we think that are are sort of the basis of how our life works but in general there's just lots of stuff that can dissolve in water and at like certainly all of life on earth is based on water chemistry but we think that water chemistry is just sort of the the kind of chemistry that can have the most interesting uh like the most like interesting products you can just get a lot you can get a lot out of water chemistry now there's also the possibility that much different pressures and temperatures then you have like liquid methane which you can have maybe some kind of interesting chemistry going on there but methane is non-polar so less stuff can dissolve in it but still some stuff can dissolve in it so maybe there would be chemistry based on liquid methane that could result in life but uh but liquid water is not just it's not just a personal bias it's not just us saying like well all the life we've ever seen is based on liquid water so it must be it's also that we know how chemistry works we do a lot of chemistry based based on a lot of different things in our world and liquid water chemistry remains the like where a huge like vast variety of interesting chemistry gets done hey guys i have to tell you that of all the sentences you've ever said that aren't dirty liquid chemistry is just good chemistry is the one that sounds the dirtiest i don't even know why exactly but when you said it you said it like four different times and each time you said it it sounded dirtier and dirtier i apologize hey um i have breaking news from the world of deer hank and john or zach furt think of the deer john and hank it comes from lienus in sweden who writes deer john and hank i am currently listening to the latest episode of your podcast and in the discussion about how to equally distribute armchairs among for example moviegoers i felt i had to point out that here in sweden we have already solved this problem at least in movie theaters it is based on the same principle that john has everyone starting from the far right side of each row is given control of the armrest to their right well how to make sure that everyone follows this on every armrest there is a white arrow pointing to the chair on its left side this simple use of an international and translinguistic symbol allows everyone in the movie theater no matter age or spoken language to know clearly which armrest is theirs to use hank sweden has solved the armrest crisis i mean i just need to ask lienus if you walk into the movie theater is there they're always people lined up on the left hand side because they get both armrests so you walk in like at the beginning you're like everybody's like i gotta get this so i get both armrests and i also have to ask lienus uh if uh if sweden is as dreamy and beautiful as it sounds and also if possibly swedish people went into the future and listened to our podcast and then brought that back as a policy or maybe or maybe they just went into the future where that is a common thing because of our podcast i just want to make sure that we can we can definitely take credit for this and i also want to say in regards to just generally discussing previous podcast i like this trend we've done several times this episode and i have to say oh my god it's burning that's funny because i am gonna charizard this mofo that's why it's burning due to my charizard that is fantastic news about sweden this podcast is brought to you by sweden's time traveling left hander hating uh efficiency loving sweden oh sweden i do is true hank that if anybody has a time machine it's almost definitely sweden and of course this podcast is also 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off to get 50 off and free daily greens per box with new subscription only wild supplies last until September 27th 2026 see website for more details all right let's do one more question John do you have one ready i don't Hank if you notice i'm trying exceptionally hard to make sure that i speak less than you during this podcast i i feel like i'm just in a mood to speak more than you anyway so i don't think you haven't have to try this question i have people call it a mood some people call it infetamines i have another question this one's from josh who asks deerhank and john i'm reading to kill a mockingbird in my freshman english class and my teacher has used the character calpernia to explain a concept called code switching my teacher defines code switching as talking differently different dialects or personal filters depending on your listener or environment my question is when do you feel the need to code switch what kind of personal filter do you use when you're talking to each other your friends what is the benefit of acknowledging when you are code switching i have to say that this is something that i did not realize until well into my my 30s and because of the ability that the internet has given me to talk to people lots of people who are not like me that i code switch all the time and it is it is one of the like really unthought about privileges of being a white male that i can code switch constantly and then in the circumstances where i feel like i can't i am so deeply uncomfortable yeah and and i feel like and understanding that like i am uncomfortable and i can't code switch despite the fact that like there are many people who cannot code switch nearly as much as i can uh and that like understanding my discomfort in those situations is like is like really uh sort of uh has allowed me to understand how difficult it is to not be a white male yeah i mean i think when people talk about um not understanding uh what is meant by the phrase white privilege or not seeing it in in our social order whatever i think reading up on code switching is actually really helpful um because i i completely agree with you um that for me at least uh it is a tremendous example of the privileges that are sort of built in to my identities um and being aware of that is tremendously important because when you aren't aware of it you just sort of you just sort of think that the universe is is tilted in a particular way and it's it's your way and that that seems like the honest or real or fair way of the world um because it's the current way of the world um and yeah so i think that's i actually think i's really interesting the character of calpurnia in tequila makanford is one of the most uh fascinating characters to me i've although Atticus Finch is often hailed as like the greatest hero in the in the history of um american literature and i certainly think that Atticus Finch is a is a great and fascinating hero um you know the truth about uh the civil rights movement in the south is that uh the heroes of it were not white men um in fact there were very very very few southern white men who uh looking back on the civil rights movement can be considered to have acted heroically um almost all almost all of the heroes of the civil rights movement in the south were the african-american people who were resisting in various ways um and you know establishing rights um that had not been given them by the state which is an extremely difficult thing to do and calpurnia is a fascinating character in that context yep yep and and sort of deeper answer to your question your actual question uh yeah i find myself code switching like just like moment to moment i i kind of am disturbed occasionally by how chameleon-y i can be and just sort of like if i'm like suddenly out of fancy dinner or if i'm like one moment i'm the boss in the next moment i'm a friend and and the linguistic ways that i do that and then i make that clear to other people around me when i'm when i'm trying to be because i i'm friends with a lot of my employees and so the like there are you know there's certainly like physical contexts uh like if we're at work um versus at a bar but there are also linguistic contexts and like the and and it's very subconscious and i don't really know that i'm doing it but i can identify it when i do uh and it's it's a really nice thing to be able to do so easily and sometimes it disturbs me i have a great uh southern accent when i go uh back to the south um that my wife will look at me and be like what what i'll just be like oh no this is just this is normal this is how i talk i talk like this no no no no no no no no no no no no no no all right let's move on to the news from mars and a fc Wimbledon um the news from a fc Wimbledon is so incredibly exciting i just can't wait i can't wait i can't wait to know what's from mars well go for it last week pank i spent uh more than two hours watching an internet live stream of a town council meeting occurring in south london i watched as local government representatives asked questions about how the garbage would be taken out how many parking spots there would be how many of these parking spots would be reserved for people with disabilities and i heard them ask questions about how the garbage would be taken out and how many parking spots there would be and how many housing units and whether those housing units would have built-in air conditioning i watched as these members of the merton council asked hundreds of questions i formed opinions about the local government representation in south london that are far firmer than the opinions i have about my local representatives here in indian app was whomever they may be i have no idea um i i watched as hundreds of a fc Wimbledon fans uh sitting there um waited to find out if the town council was going to approve their plan to build a new stadium in their historic home bringing lead football back to wimbledon after the great injustice of two thousand one and i watched and wept as the town council voted unanimously to agree that they can build a stadium it is a huge moment in the history of a fc Wimbledon hank this is the end of a vital part of the journey this is the moment when they get to come home um wimbledon fans sing a song uh show me the way to plow land they've been singing it since they were forced uh from their stadium uh more than 30 years ago uh and you know through reforming this club starting out in a public park working their way up through the non-league uh ranks into league football they have shown the world the way to plow land and i'm so proud to be a fan and sponsor of a fc Wimbledon right now they're going to get to build a stadium it's going to be a beautiful stadium it's going to be so fancy there's no way i'll ever get to sponsor it when they move into the new stadium and i'm so excited i am so excited for the day when i cannot afford to be a sponsor of this great football club so it was a huge moment in the club's history and the unanimous vote uh was really just a moving moment i mean many many a fc Wimbledon fans compared it to the moment they um won uh the playoff uh to go back into the football league that's how important it was to Wimbledon fans and uh and to the to the future of the club and i'm just thrilled for them there's a lot of work ahead obviously they've got to raise a ton of money um to uh to build the stadium but they're going to be able to do it i know it and i'm just so so happy congratulations john congratulations a fc Wimbledon i have similarly exciting news that i am similarly uh bubbling and it's like deep in my heart have have butterflies about with regards to mars john would you would you like to hear about it yeah but just tell me first did you weep when you heard it uh just maybe a tiny tiny bit i don't even believe you well you will believe me when you hear the news which is that the first book in kim stanley robinson's mars trilogy is going to be made into a tv series oh that is going to be written by none other than j michael strzinski whose credits include babylon five and four uh yeah so basically it is really it is a dream coming true for me so that red mars is the first book in kim stanley robinson's mars trilogy it is the book that got me into mars that that uh and not only that into chemistry got me into science got me into uh just uh you know basically my entire life path kim stanley robinson has remained a hero of mine he has continued to write remarkable books though in recent years he uh he has uh become a you know he's always been an environmental advocate but has become a lot less bullish on the idea of having mars as a backup planet because he wants to be very clear that this is the one we've got and we better do it right but um yeah so uh red mars is going to be a tv show and it's gonna have ten episodes and they may do the rest but uh it's it's not 100% sure but yeah it's got it's almost 100% gonna happen unless like something very very bad happens so wow extremely excited i've extremely thought somewhere fourteen year old hank is just having his biggest possible dream come true yeah yeah that was very exciting i mean i remember you reading those books and i had never seen you read like that before uh and indeed like you've since told me that you never had read like that before but i mean i'd never i'd never seen you care about something that way and it was really really cool to watch it was it really truly was transformative in your life even from the outside and so i'm i am genuinely really excited for you i thought that you were gonna come at me with some like boring news about now we can drill a mile into the mars surface or whatever but that is actually cool um what channels are gonna be on it's gonna be on spike tv which i've left out because i'm just not a big fan of spike tv yeah what what the hell whatever as long as they do a good job as a matter uh my dvr doesn't know what channel i'm recording well that's exciting yep yep hey before we talk about what we learned today we need to talk about something else which is that uh this is the last podcast of 2015 all right now we're even taking the first week of 2016 off we're going on a two week hiatus so that we can spend some time with our families enjoy the holidays and also let our listeners enjoy the holidays yes yes we don't want to distract you from all the holidays and if you want and if you want and need distraction there are lots of other podcasts uh would you like to suggest an alternate podcast john i would like to suggest an alternate podcast uh cereal well i've actually i don't know if you guys have heard of it it's like deer hank and john but um better in every way um i i would suggest you must remember this which is a history of hollywood podcast and uh and also limetown which you should not listen to at night it is a it is a kind of horrifying fictional but but pretending to be nonfiction poor podcast so Hank what have we learned uh we learned uh i don't know it's good it's good end of the podcast strong you delivered there appreciate it we learned that uh red marz has got a p and tv show and we learned that uh supporting deer hank and john on patreon well but it's certainly welcome patreon.com slash deer hank and john does not help you get your questions on the podcast indeed indeed it does not we learned that uh tiny m&m's are not as good as big m&m's because of math and we also learned the big m&m's because of math and also because of peanuts are not as good as peanut m&m's pro pro work job pro work thanks bud i feel like we learned other things today but you guys know what we learned yeah no the most important thing we learned today is that sweden continues to live in a glorious future glorious glorious future they need to share that time travel technology with with the rest of the world it does seem a little bit about a little bit about fair the rest of us are stuck in this miserable present but sweden has it all figured out except for sunshine i didn't figure that out yet i don't know a lot about sweden's weather john well it's pretty far out there hank so in the winter it's awfully dark ah see well we've got that going on here in montanae as well john thank you for having a podcast with me no it's been my distinct pleasure it's been a very enjoyable 2015 for deer hank and john or something for the deer we're looking forward to continuing more in 2016 if you have a question for us you can use deer hank and john hashtag on twitter where i'm john green and hank is hank green you can also email us hank and john at gmail dot com and also you can find us on our patreon at patreon dot com slash deer hank and john this podcast is edited by nicholas jankins the theme music is from gonerolla and as they say in our hometown don't forget to be awesome