30.3 - Sukkah Daf 37 A (9 lines Up)

Today’s learning sponsored by Sponsor a day's learning (thousands of minutes!) for only $72 click here  https://www.flipcause.com/secure/cause_pdetails/ODUwOTU=   Rabbah: One shouldn’t hold the lulav with a towel, it must be held fully - lekicha tamah.   Summary   Rava: Holding by means of something else, is still considered holding.  (According to Tosfos, the towel extends beyond the lulav and creates a sort of handle which he is holding; but merely grabbing it with a towel wrapped around one’s hand is not under discussion here).  Rava: I have proof from the following mishna:  “If the bundle of eizov (11.2) is too short to be dipped, it can be lengthened by means of a thread or it can be held with a fork.”  But the Torah uses the expression of lekicha with regard to Eizov, so we see that it is still considered holding it.  Challenge: There it is attached to the eizov, but in our case the towel is not attached to the lulav? -(According to Rashi, this mishna is discussing a completely different case than holding something wrapped in a lulav, but according to Tosfos, the cases are similar because the lulav isn’t just wrapped in a towel but extended by means of a handle)._ A different proof:  “[If the ashes of the Parah] fell from the tube into the vessel [where it is to be mixed into the Mayim Chaim], it is possul.  It seems that if one spilled the tube intentionally, it would be kosher even the though the Torah uses the expression of “lekicha”.  This is indeed a satisfactory proof. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate