30. Could it be PDA? Exploring the signs and why it’s different from ODD with Prof Tony Attwood and Dr Michelle Garnett

In this episode, I’m joined by internationally recognised experts in autism, Professor Tony Atwood and Dr. Michelle Garnett, to explore the often misunderstood condition known as Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA). Together, we dive into what PDA really is, how it differs from Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD), and what it means for neurodivergent children and their families.Key Takeaways:Understanding PDA vs ODD: Discover the critical differences between PDA and ODD. Tony and Michelle explain how PDA is rooted in anxiety and a need for control, rather than oppositional behavior. If your child’s refusal feels irrational or emotionally charged, it could be PDA, not ODD.Why Neurotypical Parenting Methods Don’t Work: Traditional approaches like rewards and punishments often fail when dealing with PDA. Learn why neurotypical parenting methods can damage relationships and what strategies work better for children with PDA.Real-Life Examples You Can Relate To: From the anxiety behind refusing simple tasks like brushing teeth or getting dressed to avoiding even activities they love, Tony and Michelle share real-life examples that will resonate with any parent navigating these challenges.Support That Works: We discuss the importance of creating a safe and flexible environment for your child, reducing their anxiety, and building a relationship based on understanding and cooperation.This episode is a must-listen if you’ve ever struggled with a child who refuses simple tasks, even when they want to do them. Tony and Michelle’s insights will not only validate your experience but also offer hope and actionable strategies for managing PDA in a way that nurtures your relationship and reduces anxiety for your child.Resources Mentioned: Season 2, Episode 5: What Every Mum Needs to Hear from Top Autism Expert with Prof Tony Attwood: Listen on Apple Podcasts or SpotifyTony & Michelle's Course on PDA: Learn more hereConnect with Tony & Michelle on Instagram hereBOOK IN WITH JANE'S RECOMMENDED THERAPISTSIf you're looking to connect with a parenting specialist or psychologist for expert advice on parenting, please check out www.adhdmums.com.au/services. Your journey to more confident and supported parenting starts here!CONNECT WITH ME...If you’ve got a question or want to connect with other ADHD mums, we’ve got a whole community on our Facebook group. Click here to join and post your question. Don’t worry if it’s been asked before! I love to answer everyone in a group format.FOLLOW FOR MORE...I post more content, insights and help on my social media accounts. Follow along for more ADHD mum content.- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adhd_mums- Facebook: https://facebook.com/100091850469503/- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adhdmumsaus- YouTube: https://youtube.com/channel/UCB0uYIHpFKFo6AdhQQaBr1wLEAVE ME A REVIEWYour review means the world to me! Your thoughts really help others discover my content that I genuinely (and passionately) hope could make a difference in their lives. Your support creates a ripple effect of spreading my show around and hopefully reaching the right people (especially Mum’s who may be at their wit’s end). WANT TO COLLABORATE?If you’re enquiring about a collaboration or speaking engagement – please email [email protected]. EXTRA RESOURCES: Still not sure if you have ADHD or are Autistic? Get access to my recommended self tests as a guide to whether you should go for an assessment or not. https://adhdmums.com.au/self-tests/Can I access the NDIS? Use this link to get a free guide to the NDIS to start you on your journey. Find more answers, resources and guides on my website at https://adhdmums.com.au/#adhd #adhdparenting #adhdmums #adhdkids #adhdteen #adhdawareness #adhddiagnosis #neurodiversity Mentioned in this episode:Body and Mind OnlineA dedicated team of neuro-affirming psychologists, occupational therapists, counsellors, and speech pathologists that you can trust and who have been specifically trained to support your family's journey with compassion, expertise, and individualised care.Body & Mind OnlineSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.