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EPISODE · Aug 7, 2020 · 8H 54M

*33.5 Makkos Daf *33.5 Makkos Daf 22 A (3 lines befor spreads)*

from BNEI AVIGDOR. Learn with us. · host Ed Levy

*33.5 Makkos Daf *33.5 Makkos Daf 22 A (3 lines befor spreads)*We learned in the mishna (32.3) that there’s a case where a man can plow one row and be liable for eight malkos.SummaryRabbi Zeira to Rabbi Mony: Our mishna (32.3) could have also counted “One who swore not to plow on Yom Tov”!Rabbi Mony: Such an oath is ineffective since he already swore [not to plow] at Sinai.Rabbi Zeira: Perhaps he made an oath not to plow ever, such an oath would be effective Yom Tov since it is effective all year.Resolution: The mishna does not concern itself with prohibitions that can be rescinded. (Since the malkos is avoidable, the mishna does not mention it).Challenge: Hekdesh is enumerated in the mishna [and it too can be rescinded].*Resolution: The hekdesh mentioned in our_mishna_ means bechor* which cannot be rescinded.*Challenge:* _Nazir_ is enumerated in the _mishna_ [and it too can be rescinded].*Resolution: The _nazir_ mentioned in our _mishna_ means _nazir Shimshon_* which cannot be rescinded. _[It’s a lifelong nezirus which according to some can be imposed by a child’s father before he is born, and according to others, can be accepted by the nazir himself]._*Challenge: A Nazir Shimshon may become _tamei_ to a _meis_* _[and the mishna discusses nazir in the context of tumas meis]._*Resolution:* Our Tanna does not mention “oath”, because according to him *even an _issur kollel_** [such as suggested by Rabbi Zeira “He made an oath not to plow ever”] *is ineffective.*_[Pesulei Mukdashim is a hekdesh animal that was found to have a blemish and rendered possul, it is then redeemed. This animal now has a special status, it still has some kedusha in the sense that it cannot be used nor shorn. However it is like an ordinary animal in that it may be slaughtered and eaten anywhere by anyone. In a sense, it’s like two animals]._*Rabbi Hoshaya: If one breeds a _Pesulei Mukdashim_ bull with another animal, he is liable for two _malkos._* _[Because it is considered a separate species, and is thus kilayim. There’s a second liability because using the bull as a stud is considered working with it]._*Rabbi Yitzchok: One who causes a _Pesulei Mukdashim_ bull to pull a wagon is liable* for working with two animal species. Although it is one animal, the Torah** considers it as two._________________________* See separate recording for Rashi’s elaboration on the concepts of _“issur kollel”_ and _“issur mosif”._** *Tosfos* explains that this refers to a specific _possuk,_ see separate recording.22 A (3 lines befor spreads)*We learned in the mishna (32.3) that there’s a case where a man can plow one row and be liable for eight malkos.SummaryRabbi Zeira to Rabbi Mony: Our mishna (32.3) could have also counted “One who swore not to plow on Yom Tov”!Rabbi Mony: Such an oath is ineffective since he already swore [not to plow] at Sinai.Rabbi Zeira: Perhaps he made an oath not to plow ever, such an oath would be effective Yom Tov since it is effective all year.Resolution: The mishna does not concern itself with prohibitions that can be rescinded. (Since the malkos is avoidable, the mishna does not mention it).Challenge: Hekdesh is enumerated in the mishna [and it too can be rescinded].*Resolution: The hekdesh mentioned in our_mishna_ means bechor* which cannot be rescinded.*Challenge:* _Nazir_ is enumerated in the _mishna_ [and it too can be rescinded].*Resolution: The _nazir_ mentioned in our _mishna_ means _nazir Shimshon_* which cannot be rescinded. _[It’s a lifelong nezirus which according to some can be imposed by a child’s father before he is born, and according to others, can be accepted by the nazir himself]._*Challenge: A Nazir Shimshon may become _tamei_ to a _meis_* _[and the mishna discusses nazir in the context of tumas meis]._*Resolution:* Our Tanna does not mention “oath”, because according to him *even an _issur kollel_** [such as suggested by Rabbi Zeira “He made an oath not to plow ever”] *is ineffective.*_[Pesulei Mukdashim is a hekdesh animal that was found to have a blemish and rendered possul, it is then redeemed. This animal now has a special status, it still has some kedusha in the sense that it cannot be used nor shorn. However it is like an ordinary animal in that it may be slaughtered and eaten anywhere by anyone. In a sense, it’s like two animals]._*Rabbi Hoshaya: If one breeds a _Pesulei Mukdashim_ bull with another animal, he is liable for two _malkos._* _[Because it is considered a separate species, and is thus kilayim. There’s a second liability because using the bull as a stud is considered working with it]._*Rabbi Yitzchok: One who causes a _Pesulei Mukdashim_ bull to pull a wagon is liable* for working with two animal species. Although it is one animal, the Torah** considers it as two._________________________* See separate recording for Rashi’s elaboration on the concepts of _“issur kollel”_ and _“issur mosif”._** *Tosfos* explains that this refers to a specific _possuk,_ see separate recording. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. 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