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It's a podcast where two brothers answer your questions give you advice and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. John we were just having our Patreon live stream chat which was great and we talked a weird amount about yachts. I remember in this time I met a guy who told me that he had built five yachts in his life. Super rich guy and I was like can you show me to them and show them to me and he said sure and so he took me out to the docks and he was showing me and he said this one's uni and this is doo this is twat this is cat and then we kept going and there was no more boats I said well where's the last one and he said sank and I thought that that was like really ironic you know that he named that boat sank in the back of it.
He should have seen that when coming yeah that's an error on his part yeah if that was me I would have not mentioned the fifth boat you know right I would have said I built four yachts especially if I'm trying to sell them you know you don't want to say I've got to try to sell to me I got a 20% success rate yeah I'm sorry I didn't laugh harder I don't feel very well I'm sick and usually I would have taken the week off I have like a fever and a headache and just kind of cold symptoms usually I would have taken the week off but I really needed to do the podcast today just for the news from AFC Wimbledon so here I yeah it is good we didn't get it last week we didn't even tell you that the first given this season was coming up because Brennan didn't do enough research I woke up this morning and I was like oh god I had such a bad night of sleep just tossing and turning and sweating and I was like oh god I just want to spend today in bed but but then I had to ask myself would Jack Curry spend today in bed would AFC would get manager Johnny Jackson spend the day in bed we'll get there we'll get there but first our last episode was guest host of Brennan Lee Mulligan which I thought was an absolute joy he was one of my top people I'd want to guest oh yeah you're a massive Brennan Lee Mulligan as am I am and so I want to ask you do you have who would be like your ideal we've got Ryan Reynolds we've got Brennan Lee Mulligan we've got a few people over the years one of my favorite all-time two of my favorite all-time deer hank and john co-hosts or Daniel Bainbridge and Ashley Ford and I would love to have either of them back anytime I enjoy the heck out of them but I'll tell you the truth think if I could have any if anybody could co-host this podcast with me I would pick tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow author Gabrielle Zevin I'm just such a fan of hers I just love that book so much I still think about it all the time it's very good it's very good is she on Twitter no but I were friends I've known her for a long time her first book that's the only way I know to know people you know who else I would love to have some time who John Cena oh John Cena that because I really we talk is on my list yeah rock would be great but for me it'd be John Cena because I think we talked about this before how I have a recurring dream when I'm when I'm having like a really dark time yeah I have this wonderful recurring dream where John Cena comes and whips me into shape and takes me to a special training camp to press people and teaches me how to like love the world again while also getting my head back into my body and it's just amazing and I just want to say I want to meet John Cena one time and say listen man I know this is my subconscious doing this and that you're not in any way participating yeah but you are maybe the most important celebrity in my life because you come to me in my dreams when I need you the most yeah as long as we're having to get really off the beaten path into into a attainable territory I feel that John Cena is like a like a two percent chance we can get on the podcast but I want to get down below one yeah Jay Z I think I think that that would be a good podcast if we did a podcast with Jay Z the whole time it would just be me saying like being that Chris Farley character who's interviewing celebrities and is just like do you remember that one time when you remember that one time in Diamonds from Sierra Leone where you said I'm not a businessman I'm a business common man do you remember that yeah yeah I remember remember remember when you said um remember that one time when you said that you were photoshoot fresh looking like wealth and you were about to call the paparazzi on yourself oh god how do you do it every single time I dress up at all I look in the mirror and I think photoshoot fresh looking like what I'm about to call the paparazzi on myself remember that time when you said I'm a hustler baby I'll sell water to a well if anybody has ideas where people we should have on his guest hosts we'd love to hear your ideas because uh what we recently realized that a bunch of people listen to this podcast we did oh yeah hey can I have a few years hey can I hadn't looked at listener data in three years and we kind of figured that we were making this mostly for ourselves and we were a little confused why people why people kept sponsoring it you know like how we hold on to all these sponsors when there's like 14 people listening it turns out there's a lot of you and it's possible we've been undercharging so yeah so we have a we have a hit podcast on our hands are there any people you think would want to be our hit podcast to promote their movie whose name Keanu Reeves oh oh god I couldn't know it's it would be too much it would be good I could actually handle that yeah I couldn't handle it I would spend the like six weeks before Keanu was on the podcast just in a constant state of anxiety yeah I was kind of nervous about Ryan but yeah me too turns out normal people are normal hey let's move on to some questions from our listeners this one comes from Darby who writes dear John and Hank how do you share what you've written without worrying your loved ones I have a lot of writing stories poems but I haven't shared most of them because I want the people I'm closest to to enjoy them but I also want the stories to be read separately from their author oh Darby you're speaking my language I mean you you you particularly found like one of John's main talking points which unfortunately is a main talking point because it is counter to the experience of most I just well I just can't I can't get out of it I'm like I'm stuck inside of those novels no matter what I try to do yes no matter how many times I tell people please stop reading me into the novels they keep they can't they can't they can't help themselves it's I experience this from the perspective of having a number of sort of excellent people in the books but everyone assuming that Andy scamped his the self-insert Hank and I'm like I guess that makes sense but these other people are much cooler than that guy why did you make him me because I'm not cool yeah is why right that's why I'm proud of what I've written but I'm still struggling with showcasing my work because ultimately they're intimate glimpses into my mind what do you think tell all the truth but tell it's land Darby I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know you're gonna find strangers but even then it's hard right like I mean I obviously I don't know what it's like to be you Darby but the other day I was having dinner with a friend of mine and his dad and his dad had just read the Anthropocene Reviewed and he was like uh you're a real tortured guy but yeah I guess so yeah I thought about it like that before but I guess but yeah I wanted I wanted to be like aren't we all yeah yeah are you just sort of a piece that you had you figured it all out yeah maybe which is great but I I think that with the Anthropocene Reviewed I felt like I can't escape being me in these novels like I can't escape being read into them I can't escape being um you know a character in them even if I try not to be you well yeah I mean you you are a character in the Anthropocene Reviewed and so that's what I did I was like fine right okay I will make myself a character yeah and I will I will at least have some control over how the character is represented like me stuff not like right like John being imagined that Hank is Andy yeah and so everything that Andy does is like retroactively placed onto Hank and like I've tried and I know you have to like create that distance consciously but it's very hard when a lovely group of people interact with you and your work on a weekly basis or on a daily basis on Twitter TikTok or whatever because they're you're always going to show glimpses of yourself that are some of the same pieces or analogous glimpses to the glimpses you show of yourself in fiction yeah and this was this was not really an issue except for in like scholarship except in academia or in the case of like close friends family members yeah until pretty recently right because like like I like we all read uh JD Salinger in To Catch Her In The Rye but the reason we read JD Salinger in To Catch Her In The Rye was because he was so overwhelmed by the response to catching the rye that he removed himself from public life and stuff to publish it right yeah yeah yeah because he did something sort of hard it's hard not to yeah but like now now everybody is in that JD Salinger position where like inevitably you become a central part of the narrative around the story or the poem or whatever yeah I think all the time about what I knew about my favorite authors when I read their books growing up and it was just the author bio like like what else could I know I could like go to the library and find a like a magazine interview maybe with them if I was nuts but no you just get like the you know you like three sentences in the back of the book that's what you know and and so the book I think the work tended to in the past stands much more on its own but this is probably a bit of a different question here where it's like particularly the people in my life reading this story in which like the characters experience trauma or they are like dealing with difficult things um seeing like like being afraid that regardless of how true this is that like people will read that book and like come away not thinking about the book as the work but thinking about you as the author and whether or not they need to be like worried or concerned about that right right it's so like that's very hard and I think that it in a lot of ways you kind of can't do it and I had to work really hard not to think about particularly my parents when I was writing because I you know I wanted to not be stuck in a world where um you know like you know I had to be thinking of the the audience that I wanted not the audience that I was most worried about I guess right yeah that's a great observation in general that's really good advice I think I also think you can go to your parents or friends and before they read it say listen this is a story and it's got connections to my life but it's not my life and that's how stories work for me and I know it will be hard to read it that way but that's how it was written yeah right and I'm fine I'm not fine but I'm fine right nobody's fine uh yeah and I and this is part of what makes it so complicated is that this is an impossible ask right it is an impossible ask to ask people like hey don't read what you know about the author into the book like that's just not possible yeah it's like I really want you to read this my friend jeff wrote it uh but you have to read it I know you don't care about jeff or no jeff you have to read this and you have to be honest about what you think well and that's the other thing right is that like if you really wanted you that's what you would do if you didn't want them to know that it was you well or you would find some way to do that just as you could have published you could have published your book under a pseudonym and then mom and dad might never have known that it was yours but like you want them to read it and you want them to know that you wrote it yeah and so all of these conflicting difficult things are happening all together and that's why I don't think there's like an easy or straightforward way around the question and that's why you're right it has begun to obsess me because like the questions that really interest me are the ones that don't have easy straightforward simple answers like for years I was able to say books belong to their readers and now I'm a little bit like books belong to their readers but right it is complex back in the day they saw that problem by just saying that god wrote it oh those are the days like when john milton could be like uh you know how it is man a little little angel bird appeared on my shoulder and whispered all all the paradise lost into my ear and I just wrote it down so don't read me into it blame the bird the muses this next question comes from adra who says sup right we're going informal it's in all caps is the earth not round for my entire life I thought the earth was perfectly round and it's not are all the planets not perfectly circular does that change things thanks airdra uh airdrop got really bad news oh yeah do you yeah what's the bad news nothing nothing nothing perfectly round yeah well except the idea of round which is why right right there is an idea of round that exists and that is real and we can write equations about it to express this idea of round and we can write sentences about it that's actually going to an sentence is the weird thing like you can't draw a perfect circle but you can say it's a line all points of which are the same distance from the middle uh and then that that is more of a circle than anything that has ever been created and it has no certain minute that's mind blowing nothing is round adra except for sentences describing round yeah yes uh-huh yeah so uh you've got a couple of different ways in which the earth is not round you're you've always been familiar with one of them which is that sometimes the earth goes up and then down uh and you get tired when you're walking up the earth and then you can sort of like run down it or like ski down it so that's a weird way you got you got young person knees so that's a way to run up to it so that the earth is not perfectly round it has it has bumps but it is also because it's spinning uh is a little bit of has a bulge in the middle where it's like literally because of the spin is squished out a little bit about uh 70 000 feet wider across at the diameter than it is at the poles which is a lot uh we're weird amount and that also happens to the atmosphere so it's not like that like pokes through the atmosphere but it's further from the center of the planet about 70 000 feet yeah makes me feel better about my shape god i hadn't thought about it that way but this for this reason uh just a little uh just because of the spinning i'm just a little wider in the middle uh for this reason the amount of verse is not actually the furthest point from the uh center of the earth it is the highest width and the furthest point from the center of the earth is i think an Ecuador or somewhere around there it's a amount that's closer to the equator wow yeah that is that's fascinating i'm gonna that's a great that's fascinating i could give you a good fact there's like several ways in which amount of resistance that toss might not be the other one is that monikea is the highest from the base to the top it's just the base is underwater hmm so nothing's ever simple uh just like the fact that nothing is round um yes nothing is round except that words make it so and nothing is simple except that words make it so this next question comes from Andrew who writes dear john and hank how am i supposed to hear about food recalls i heard about this peanut butter recall on your podcast oh no i haven't been feeling great lately should i have a news alert setup or something what's going on with these food recalls dftba andrew i i think that this is like literally the way that they do it is they just like put out a press release and all the news organizations are like okay today we're gonna do something constructive we're gonna let people know about a thing that you know about that's actually something they need to know about and that's right i think that's the main way it happens yeah but andrew is right that if you don't engage with lots of traditional like television based media sources you might not know about them yeah like i would argue that not engaging with television news it's kind of like the right call yeah it's outside of the isn't peanut butter this is super weird that you have to consume uh some form of news that is going to contain probably a lot of stuff that's not gonna be you know great for you the right vibe anyway uh in order to be aware of when your food might kill you which maybe it should be an app for that there should be an app for that there's probably an app for that i i would set up a google news alert but only for the things that i eat a lot of like pop bellies turkey sandwich news alert you know if there's any any big news coming out of the world of pop bellies i want to know about it black black beans and or rice those any any issues emerge in those fields i'm i'm i'm in a proper emergency oh man like i don't need one for iceberg lettuce yeah and they often are for iceberg lettuce which is interesting they are not doing iceberg lettuce well well in 2017 the uh the usda launched what this article calls a handy dandy app called food keeper that alerts people to food recalls the moment they are announced by the usda's food safety and inspection service uh and the fda so you will always be in the loop it's called food keeper it's one word and the k is capital and you it's also available on the internet there you go just go to food keeper food keeper i can't believe it well pro-drive on the usda once again i thought we were going to be a goofing it turns out the usda had obviated the the problem they'd seen it and they'd solved it and they're amazing obviated one of my favorites john what's it mean that's just to remove a difficulty obviated oh god i'd like to obviate several aspects of my life now that i have language for this i most of my issues are around obviation and and the lack of it i don't really know why it's different from like avoid but it feels like maybe a little bit uh a little bit more sort of permanent uh i just want to yeah it's like what i think of is you're racing this 110 meter hurdles race but then if you obviate the obstacles you can go much faster yeah you don't have to jump at all yeah so it's like but you like see the problem coming and you create the solution and then you've then you've obviated it's i'll tell you the truth it sounds like a business word but i think if we could get it out of business and like into regular words that would be good i might know it for business reasons i just i sometimes i think i hear the business words flying around and i'm like this is terrible but then i'm like but also very efficient like i know what they mean totally and it used to be like Hank and i would go to business meetings and people would say business words and you could see Hank and i like blanche and roll our eyes and make fake part big sense the other thing that i've gotten good at is being like i don't know that one which initially yeah it felt very bad to be like i don't have any i do what we're talking about right now i think that you said the word cack 400 times before i knew what it meant cack is very important it is very important i just didn't know what it was yeah yeah i i did this and i'm meeting last week i was like everybody said this three or four times and i don't know what it is and uh and then several people were like yes me too and i was like ah see we need to speak with each other what what what was it can't remember it was something to do with higher education it was in a meeting with like it was a crash course thing oh yeah they have so many acronyms in the higher world oh god sorry i'm giving myself a covid test Hank don't pop don't just right up there um here's a here's a this is actually a tab i have open right now you can reserve your spot for a white glove landing page service fully supportive of your aov roa and cpa goals wow wow and i like i just read that like words i'm so old yeah um white white glove it needs to go i mean uh that that needs to go yeah i haven't received a white glove service in real life ever and i don't want one yep let's move on this next question comes from laura who writes dear john and hank what would have happened if the earth never had trees that could be used for lumber or structures like say they just never grew or evolved and we just had shrubbery would we've been able to figure out boats and stuff would we be different wondering about the big flora laura wow really good name specific sign off yeah i think we would have figured out boats but it definitely would have taken longer like everything would have taken longer trees are so good you also like you also have to think you know that you can still burn the shrubbery like you can do fires but like it's just a lot more work to maintain a fire that has a lot of little bits in it than like big bits so i would also be i would also be worried that we couldn't have the climate that we have that's allowed us to thrive without trees that sure i think that that that could be also be a problem the shade as well i love that and wouldn't oh yeah do not have that i mean if there were no trees i don't know that i don't know if there were if there had never been a tree i don't think that there would be humans at all you think there would be no people you think people would are impossible without trees i don't think that's true i'm not saying that they're impossible i'm just saying that like i don't think apes would have been crushing it 30 million years ago and so i'm i get to where you're concerned that there might not be humans yeah the woodless world human tree if i knew novel the woodless world is a really good name for a novel i don't know what it's about yeah or coffee brew oh yeah no it's a little bit of a bummer fun coffee yeah yeah yeah given that we're trying trying with the awesome coffee club to make deforestation right not happen the woodless world seems like the wrong name for the coffee but that does remind me oh last week we made a big deal or two weeks ago we made a big deal of effect and you go to awesome coffee club dot com get a sweet sweet uh discount by putting in deer hank or deer john in the promo code and then hank and i were looking at the staff and you're like yeah we were like this is a catastrophe this is the worst promotion we've ever done it's gotten a total of like two purchases and that was because you couldn't actually buy the coffee because this discounts you could only buy a mug and that's that's on us yeah we're sorry yeah yeah we got reached out to buy uh somebody at dftba and they're like do you want me to make that so that that works and they did they did make it so that it works so if you go to awesome coffee club dot com right now you can get great coffee sent to your house on a regular schedule and get two cents off awesome coffee club dot com promo code deer john or deer hank sure all right it looks like i don't have covid again even though i sure do have a fever uh well it turns out there are other diseases i guess this next question comes from Caleb who asks deer hank and john why are the planets close to the sun small and rocky and why are the planets far from the sun huge and gassy is it like this in every solar system are the big ones just rock ones down at their core help i need this info for a trip on planning kalim you and you on musk buddy you and you on musk planet planted the trip since 2004 um yeah hey is that real uh well i mean that is certainly the case in our so it's something that's not universal though there are lots of what they call hot jupiters which are big gas giants that orbit close into their stars it we we have a lot to learn about planetary formation and about other planetary systems and one of the things that is the problem here and i want to write a side show about this is that we have a bunch of tools for how to detect planets but they detect certain planets so like for example there's like the wobble method where you actually see the star wobble a little bit as the orbit of the planets orbit it but in order to see that wobble you have like the planet has to be close and it has to be big so we have a really good system for detecting certain kinds of planets so we know about a lot of hot jupiters but that doesn't mean that they're common it means that we can detect them and i think oftentimes when uh science journalists write about this they're like why are there so many hot jupiters and it's like well maybe they're aren't it's just like we are going to detect them right now so that there's a sampling price and this is also true for planets that are closer versus farther away so the further so the transit method is how we know about most exoplanets which is one of a planet passes in front of the star and the brightness of the star drops and that right so but in order for that to happen the plan has to be perfectly aligned with us looking at it with its star because you know there's no like so planetary systems don't like orbit in the galactic plane or anything they're totally like an up and down yeah they tumble around so it's it's totally random whether or not you can see that and it's actually quite unlikely but also if there's just a little bit of tilt the close ones might be transiting but the far ones won't be so it's harder to see planets that are farther away it's also easier to see planets that are bigger because they block more light when you're talking about the transit method so closer in bigger planets are much easier to detect than farther out smaller planets so our understanding like we have detected a huge number of exoplanets but we are not particularly good at like we haven't gotten there's like gaps in what we can detect and so we are still working on uh we're still working on filling in those gaps with better sensors and better systems so we don't really know i'm not really i'm not really i'm not near the mic i just realized that's an important part of the podcast and so we don't really know what percentage of exoplanets we've discovered like we are able to extrapolate out very effectively we can extrapolate some things but there are big gaps in what we can extrapolate yeah but but we do there are a couple of things that make us believe that solar systems like ours where the inner planets are rocky and the outer planets are gaseous are not weird and that often happens and that there are physical reasons why this happens so one of the big ones is that like for gas to clump together it helps for it to be cold because you can sort of like get past what they call the frost line where hydrogen can compound into ice which makes it sort of bump into each other more which makes it easier for it to form into a planet rather than just keep getting like pushed farther out by the solar winds whereas the the heavier elements that the terrestrial planets are made out of they are able to condense at higher temperatures closer into the star so it appears that there is a logic like there's a reasonable explanation for why the inner planets of our solar system are rocky and the outer planets are are gaseous and that in these situations where there are these like close in gas giants that might be a situation where it is not unusual for like planets to form and then like rearrange themselves in a solar system and sometimes they end up going in close maybe maybe yeah well all that reminds me that today's podcast is brought to you by hot jubiters that's a good coffee name this podcast is also brought to you by Mount Chimboratso the furthest point from the equator of our planet take that all you Everest climbers and today's podcast is brought to you by a woodwist world a woodwist world it's a great phrase but it wouldn't be a great world and of course this podcast is brought to you by the yacht sink uh works both ways that's the joke we also have a project frozen message from roland in the Netherlands to hilda it's exactly 10 years ago when we met at john's tiffyos reading in amsterdam the dutch nerdfighter community brought us together and now 10 years later we are married and expecting our nerd fighter baby girl oh my gosh i might start crying at an emotional day i have no doubt that you're gonna be an amazing mom because you never forget to be awesome without you my life would be a lot less colorful love roland ps we have a baby gift list here fine fine roland you're gonna make me cry i'll buy you a story too late because it got submitted a long time ago oh god that that's we are too late oh no i got i got some oh wait there's a password there's a password yeah i look you know it's a password oh i don't think dutch though so i'm confused oh yeah they just they need a blender and they need one of those uh little swaddling things yeah which is called apparently a bad cape do you think they accept just money whatever we'll work it out roland um these i mean hey no this is that's definitely what that is a kinder stole a kinder stole it's a child's tool not bad cape yeah the slap sack and a slap sack do you know what a slap sack is john i do now it's like it's like a one-step looking and i'm gonna read you dutch baby things and tell you you're gonna see if you know what they are what is it what is a hodja oh so it's bad pronunciation sure uh-huh um i do not know uh hodja okay is it a little like is it little baby shoes um the first part is hod what part of a baby might hodbe is it a little baby hoodie little hoodie that's close it's a fuzzy hat is a baby hat it looks like a bucket hat that like the cool kids wear um what about what about a beets spittle oh a beets beetle is definitely a crib no it's got the word speed in it uh it's a place where the babies spit it's a two it's a tt thing device oh beets beetle yeah it's a beets beetle yeah god i love dutch it's good oh i've got one for you hank what do you think what do you think a blender is it's a blender i think it's probably a blender yeah oh i it is so one of the great great pleasures of having done this for so long i remember that fault-narr star is gathering ten years ago and one of the great pleasures of having done this for so long is getting to see relationships grow and deepen among people who are in our community and hearing that it's just it's just so special so thank you thank you for letting us be part of your lives thank you for giving us a seat at the table and thank you for making relationships with each other it's amazing what do you think mowder milk bewars actuses mowder milk i mean it's it's mother's milk um is it a bottle yeah like bags okay yeah like breast milk bags yeah mowder milk mowder milk i love dutch i love dutch this episode of your hank and john is brought to you by shopify there are a lot of things that stand between i have an idea and this is an idea that actually exists in the world and people are buying things from me and that is what shopify makes easier when you start with shopify the tools to design and launch and take payments they're all there from day one you don't have to build a whole machine before you can start building the business and this is 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we went 28 games without a victory it's not good no very you can't really win if you don't win for the second you don't win any football games it is unlikely that you will succeed in football that is one of the basic rules of sports do you want to know how many days it was it was eight months Hank it was eight months without winning a football game it was 235 days that Wimbledon fans went to Plow Lane hoping to see their team win only to not see them win well our first season back in league two has just begun and I was like oh god I don't know we've made all these signings we've got a high really high quality players now but we don't win football games I don't remember what it's like to win a football game and we were playing jilling him or possibly killing him whom you'll recall we're also relegated from lead one so so they're probably one of the best teams in league two since they were you know and they were better than us last year and and so I was like oh god this just it's so high pressure well Hank I have not seen us look that good on a football field in years Johnny Jackson our manager has Wimbledon playing a really attractive kind of football defending well but then going forward and there's this kid who's one of our full backs his name is Jack Curry he's been with Wimbledon since he was 12 years old he's just been promoted to the senior team he was playing his first game of professional football in his young life in front of the fans who've watched him grow up since he was in fifth grade or whatever they call it in England and not only did he did he have an amazing game he scored a goal he scored a goal in our two-nil victory over jilling ham or possibly killing ham and it was the most beautiful it was so beautiful you could see the tears rushed to his eyes as he scored the goal and all the players surrounded him he was named Man of the Match is just incredible we won a football game for the first time in eight months for the first time in 2022 we won a football game Christmas was two weeks away the last time we won a football game and we won a football game the other goal was scored by Ethan Chislett also a long time dawn and it was an absolute rocket from outside of the box it was like a premier league level goal it was incredible and I mean obviously it's one game out of a 46 game season but oh I could not help but hope I cannot help but hope Hank we look a lot better than we did last year and some of our best players weren't even on the pitch yet we got this new midfielder his name is Paris Modoma and he is really good like he looked very very talented we also just signed somebody whose initials are NYC and that's what he goes by he goes by NYC even though he's not not from New York and he looks good young Nathan who but he what's combs he looks very good so on full with I we won a football game yeah the so far it all goes like this you're gonna win all of them that's right we're on pace now the greatest season in league two in the street the other thing it's it's still possible the other thing is that our the AFC World and Kids came out and the Awake Kit is a really dark blue and the patch the DFTBA Nerdfighteria patch is gold and it looks so good yeah can I get one of these can I buy one of these for those people's baby you can you buy the shorts and then you have to buy the patch separately oh you have to buy the patch separately I don't know go to AFC Wimbledon.co.uk and you can figure it out listen it's a fourth tier English football team like they don't have the best like international clothing options but you can make it happen great that's great well I'm very glad uh where you watching the game did you get to see it I watch the whole game and oh god it was just such a joy it was so it's such a relief you know just it just felt great it just I genuinely forgotten what it was like to win and so the whole time we were one no love because we scored in the 14th minute and I was like that's way too early I've seen this movie before and when we when Jack Curry scored that second goal I was like maybe this is different maybe it's different like we kept a clean sheet we scored a couple goals the players looked really promising I don't know I was feeling good man I'm feeling good what's going on on Mars well on Mars I can't figure out how to buy things from this baby website in the Netherlands and so instead I'm buying myself a adult away walkout jacket from the problem is that as this plan continued for the European Space Agency to design the rover that would pick up the tubes and then like the rocket that would then launch into Mars's orbit and then get them back to Earth somehow became very expensive and cumbersome and so now NASA is saying okay let's not send a separate rover just to pick up vials of rock and dirt maybe we will get the perseverance to do it for us since it's already there and also curiosity has been so tremendously successful and long lived it may have time to do this um and which means that potentially it will do that work and then there will be just one lander instead of two one with a rover and one rocket uh where the rocket uh the perseverance would like give it to the rocket and be like here buddy take it home and all that works Earth might be getting its first delivery of Mars rocks around 2023 that's pretty soon it's pretty soon 2020 wait next year 20 oh sorry sorry sorry and of all this works Earth will be getting its first delivery of Mars rocks by around 2033 which is not great for like my schedule for when people need to get to Mars uh so uh we we we make it hopefully we'll get we'll get rocks after we get people uh there and back which would make the whole thing if we are able to sort of uh figure out rockets the way that uh people who talk big think that we can then all this will have been for naught and we'll just have people coming back from Mars with just tons of rocks yeah but seems unlikely at this point I mean we are now only five years away from this podcast this is this is starting it's starting to seem like it could happen well first the thing that mainly makes me think is when we made that joke I was like that's an impossible distance away right right because 2028 or whatever it is yeah it's just so it's just infinite future right and now it's like oh yeah no we're gonna get there yeah we're gonna get there I think it's pretty likely that we'll be making a podcast and especially now that I know that we have listeners yeah uh and thanks I'm glad that we do have listeners and I'm glad that I have a brother uh to make podcasts with me even if uh you know if you're not able to show up and Keanu Reeves wants to come on instead that's also totally accepted uh if I'm not able to show up and Keanu Reeves comes on instead I will be showing you that would be an awful shame uh for you but I'll just did complete delight for me to rub it in your face forever so that's that's my hope if you want to ask us questions you can do that uh hank and john at gmail.com is the email address to send them to thank you all so much for your delightful questions we're off to record our patreon only podcast it's called this week and stuff where we talk about the things that made us happy this week uh and I hope I have something to say it's been a little bit of a stressful talk for me honestly John yeah maybe we'll just talk about things that are making us miserable like illness yeah this podcast is edited by joseph tuna medich it's produced by rosion house rohas we want to say thank you to julia bloom who has been our communications coordinator forever so long julia's headed off to do new and cool and big and exciting new things uh but you will be missed julia hats off thank you for all of your hard work our editorial assistant is debooki trucker party the music you're hearing now is by the great ganarola and as they say in our hometown don't forget to be awesome