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346 AI 时代的传奇人生: 哈萨比斯和洪乐潼

from Blow Your Mind (BYM S02)

(本期是视频节目。更佳观赏效果,请移步 b zhan 搜索账号 “我是简里里”。)这期 brofeng 和简里里聊了聊两位 AI 时代的弄潮儿:首先是 Demis Hassabis (哈萨比斯),是 DeepMind 创始人,现在带队 Google AI 团队。他的人生可以总结为:一切为了理想!推荐新书。他的传记:《The Infinity Machine》(中译本:《哈萨比斯:谷歌 AI 之脑》)。另一位人物是:年轻(00后)创业者洪乐潼。她真是:生而逢时 + 自古英雄出少年。人生就要趁年轻玩个大的!时间线:00:00:00 - 00:08:24- Zuckerberg(扎克伯格)虽然出价更高,但是仍然和 DeepMind 失之交臂,因为没有创新的品味?- Hassabis 目标是尽快实现 AGI,而不是赚钱,所以在 DeepMind 早期就以约 6 亿美元卖给 Google(谷歌)- 这本《The Infinity Machine》既写他本人,也反映了 AI 的发展00:08:25 - 00:13:04- DeepMind 前两轮融资困难重重,创始团队很快只剩 20% 多股份- 哈萨比斯不熟悉硅谷套路,被 VC 放鸽子- 因厌倦融资消耗,也为更快推进 AGI(通用人工智能),接受了 Google(谷歌)的资源与算力承诺00:13:05 - 00:16:00- 平庸的 VC 只会观望,等他人领头- 一旦有人领投,投资人就会蜂拥而上,生怕落后00:16:01 - 00:27:49- 传记作者连环追问让 Hassabis 点头称是,最终接受传记写作- Hassabis 被迫参与大语言模型竞争,难专注蛋白质折叠、制药等更有长期价值的 AI 方向00:27:50 - 00:34:36- 洪乐潼,学霸封顶,创办 Axiom,主攻数学大模型- 她以 MIT、Oxford(牛津)、Stanford(斯坦福)背景与明星团队,成为硅谷 Neo lab 风潮代表00:34:37 - 00:42:03- 硅谷和创投圈不断制造新名词,本质上是旧酒装新瓶- AI 让概念轮替更快,估值与风口两个月就可能翻篇- 面对 MCP、 agent 等热词,更该看清技术本质,别被泡沫裹挟00:42:04 - 00:50:16- AI 已成高频工具,让人更敢快速试做想法- 可以缩短搜索、写邮件等执行时间,但好内容仍需人反复打磨- AI 更像放大可能性的助手,能给框架与信息,却难直接产出有灵魂的创意00:50:17 - 01:02:46- AI 更擅长数学、编程这类可验证任务,连通用 ChatGPT 都可解出 Erdős(埃尔德什)未解题,并给数学家带来新思路- 专用数学模型的价值在于针对解题能力做更深训练与系统增强,不只是聊天式通用能力- 这类高投入是否真优于通用大模型?- 当前主流模型几乎都基于 Transformer 架构,只是在上层做不同优化01:02:47 - 01:05:23- 欢迎bymmers给我们写信,主播读了都好开心!==================================================参考资料==================================================The Infinity Machine(《哈萨比斯:谷歌 AI 之脑》)(书籍) 一本关于 DeepMind 创始人 Demis Hassabis 的传记,也被视为近年人工智能发展史的侧面记录。Demis Hassabis(哈萨比斯)(人物)英国人工智能研究者、 DeepMind 联合创始人,以推动通用人工智能与蛋白质折叠研究闻名。Lee Sedol(李世石)(人物)韩国职业围棋九段,因与 AlphaGo 的历史性对局而成为人工智能发展史上的标志性人物。Founders Fund(投资机构)由 Peter Thiel 等人创立的美国风险投资机构,以押注高风险、非共识项目著称。Larry Page(拉里·佩奇)(人物)Google 联合创始人之一,曾主导 Google 对 DeepMind 的收购。Peter Thiel(彼得·蒂尔)(人物)硅谷知名投资人和思想家,常以强调 contrarian thinking(反共识思维)著称。AlphaFold(研究项目)DeepMind 开发的蛋白质结构预测系统,被认为显著推动了生物学与药物研发。GEB(《哥德尔、艾舍尔、巴赫》)(书籍)Douglas Hofstadter 的经典著作,探讨数学、音乐、意识与自指结构,对许多科技从业者影响深远。Carina Hong(洪乐潼)(人物)来自中国广州的年轻创业者与研究者,因创办面向数学推理的 AI 公司而受到关注。Rhodes Scholarship(罗德奖学金)(奖学金)国际上极具声望的奖学金项目,资助优秀学生赴牛津大学深造。UCL(University College London,伦敦大学学院)(大学)英国知名研究型大学,在神经科学、医学与计算等领域具有较强影响力。Neo lab(概念)播客中提到的硅谷新说法,指以创业公司形式融资、但主要目标是推进前沿模型或基础研究的实验室式组织。Erdős(保罗·埃尔德什)(人物)20 世纪极具影响力的匈牙利数学家,以提出大量深刻而刁钻的问题闻名。Terence Tao(陶哲轩)(人物)当代最著名的数学家之一,研究横跨分析、组合、偏微分方程等多个领域。Transformers(概念)一种深度学习模型架构,已成为当代主流大模型的核心基础。BYM email: bymclub(a)outlook(dot)com

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(本期是视频节目。更佳观赏效果,请移步 b zhan 搜索账号 “我是简里里”。)这期 brofeng 和简里里聊了聊两位 AI 时代的弄潮儿:首先是 Demis Hassabis (哈萨比斯),是 DeepMind 创始人,现在带队 Google AI 团队。他的人生可以总结为:一切为了理想!推荐新书。他的传记:《The Infinity Machine》(中译本:《哈萨比斯:谷歌 AI 之脑》)。另一位人物是:年轻(00后)创业者洪乐潼。她真是:生而逢时 +...

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