EPISODE · Aug 18, 2020 · 4H 45M
*35.3 Makkos Daf 23 A (14 lines up)*
from BNEI AVIGDOR. Learn with us. · host Ed Levy
*35.3 Makkos Daf 23 A (14 lines up)*Summary_We learned in the mishna (34.3) that if he was spoiled by defecation or urination, the malkos are stopped. Rabbi Yehuda: A man is only absolved from malkos if he defecates. A woman is absolved even if she merely urinates._*Beraisa A:**Rabbi Meir* : Both men and women are absolved from *malkos* *only by defecation.**Rabbi Yehuda: A man* is only absolved from malkos if he defecates. *A woman* is absolved evenre if she merely urinates. _(His position in this beraisa is identical to our mishna)._*Chachomim:* Both men and women are absolved from _malkos_ *even by urination.**Challenge:**Beraisa B:**Rabbi Yehuda:* Both men and women are absolved from _malkos_ *by defecation.**Rav Nachman bar Yitzchok:* Beraisa B is saying that *defecation is sufficient cause* to absolve men.*Shmuel:* If he tore himself loose and *ran away* after being tied down, he is absolved from _malkos_ [it is considered as if he was already put to shame].*Challenge: Beraisa:* If he was shamed during the first blow or the second blow, *he is absolved.* If the whip broke during the second blow he is absolved, but *not if it broke during the first blow.**Why is this different* from the case where he ran away before getting the first blow?*Resolution: Since he didn’t run away,* he was not put to shame.*Beraisa:* If a man is assessed as one who will *defecate as soon as the _malkos_ begin, he is absolved.* As the _possuk_ states, “He is hit, and he shall be shamed”, but he shouldn’t be shamed before he is hit.If he will defecate *after leaving beis din, we give him _malkos._*If he defecated *before the assessment, we wait* until he calms down and he is assessed and given _malkos._ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate
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*35.3 Makkos Daf 23 A (14 lines up)*
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