361: The Murky Passions

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Hank, I'm sorry, it's just, it sounded like you just sneezed. I did. I'm sorry, it's never normal. It's not normal.

It's a concern. What happened happened? Give me the backsto the intro. How did this occur?

It's a catastrophe. I don't know, we were just chatting and then it was time to start the podcast and something got in there. Oh no. Is it out?

I assume so. I think you need to call Dr. Nevers needs her Scrooge and find out if you're okay. Should I start the podcast now?

Sure. So I'd welcome to Dear Hank and John. Doors, I prefer to think of it, Dear John and Hank. It's a podcast for two brothers and to your questions, give you dubious advice and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon.

John, it's Valentine's Day this week. I was talking to Oren and I was like, I love you, buddy. And he said, I love you too, dad. And I said, that's great.

I mean, they're an okay band, but I was more wanting to know what you thought about me. I love you too, dad. Oh, I love you too. Like the edge.

And what's his face? You thought of the edge first? Yeah, that's great for the edge. I'm happy for him.

I feel like the other guy, Bono, is this me? I feel like he gets a lot of the headlines. Yeah. Yeah.

Did that joke need a little bit more you two references in it to be understandable? Like I was standing by the Joshua tree. Yeah, or like he said, I love you too, dad. And I was like, I didn't ask what you thought about Bono.

I asked what you thought about me. That's something to make you. That's closer. Yeah.

I think that the problem might be in the, you know, how people talk about a house having good bones? Doesn't have good bones. I think that joke might have had bad bones. It's something Sarah and I talk about a lot in like real estate and like houses that like some houses just have bad bones and like is not what you can do about it.

You talk about you talk about houses bones a lot? That's a little bit strange, John. I don't tend to think much about house bones. I really only care about the bones of one house.

I know, but I think there's a great luxury to be in that situation where I've got one. Yeah. And the bones seem fine. Yeah.

Sometimes the wind blows and the bones talk to me, but look, that's true of my own bones as well. Sure. Especially these days. Yeah.

I got anything your bones have been saying to you lately? Oh, just, um, just that they feel a little worked to the. Oh, wow. My bones are like, if you could walk around on snow less, that would be great.

Yeah. I took a big fall yesterday. I was running, you did, along the way, river, and I took a really significant. Oh, running falls are never good.

It was one of those falls where I went, I had like five or six steps in that full wily coyote thing where your legs are just like moving as fast as they can move. That was so funny. And so there was like a funny little gate where you can't quite get your feet back under your center of gravity. Right.

But there were probably two or three full seconds where I was like, I can save this. I'm gonna save this. And then there was like one second where I was like, I can't save this, but I have had all of this time to figure out how to fall. So that's good.

And I'm gonna do a good job of falling as well as I can. And then I got up and I was like, wow, did you do a bad job of falling? It would have been hard to do worse. Like I got up and my knee was just just I could, I could, when you, when I fall while I'm running, I always get up and immediately start running again, because there's so much adrenaline inside of me that I'm just like, and I was alone.

So I was able to sort of like run and like yell at myself and yell at the universe. And I was just like, man, my knee hurts. I really, I really hope that sweat that's like dripping. Yes, your knee is that really sweaty?

I really want me to hurt a lot. Because it was sort of in a panic, you know. Yeah. And I was like, God, I really hope that sweat.

And I was like, I'm just, I'm not gonna look, because it doesn't do any good to look now. I'll look when I get home. And I got home. And it was like, it took me a while to figure out I didn't need to go to the ER because it took me a while to like, get everything cleaned up to where I could be.

That's all right. Yeah, that's just, yeah. I don't know what's going on there. I literally can't see it.

It's under all of the stuff that should be on the inside being outside. Oh, oh, and like, it didn't hurt. Like, I mean, I ran for two more miles after I had this fall. That's why I was well, I had to.

I was two miles away from home. Well, you could have have probably could have gotten some other way. I probably could have. Yeah, I don't know.

I could have made a call. I guess I could have been a bird home that would have been a little weird for me though. I was anyway, and I felt pretty, I felt pretty good by the time I got there until I looked at it. It was like the classic kid thing where everything's fine until you see it.

And then I was like, Oh, no, I'm very badly injured. Well, I'm not actually badly injured. I was able to make it to the podcast and everything. That's great.

I'm happy to have you here. All right, let's answer some questions from our listeners beginning with this one about sneezes. Oh, it's from Sam who writes, Dear John and Hank, I'm currently pretty congested and I'd like to sneeze, but I know that's weird and that sneezing is not normal and shouldn't be condoned. But I fix the world in this way.

I have a related question. Why can't I sneeze on command? If we could sneeze on command, we wouldn't have to worry about doing it at an inappropriate time and we could get all decongested in private. Thanks, Sam.

Yeah, you can definitely like you can. It's true. I mean, wait, are you are you about to say that you can sneeze on command because that might be the only thing weirder than a physician saying that sneezing is never normal. You can't you can't you can't just like sit there and be like, I would like to sneeze now make yourself sneeze.

You can do a number of things that might make you sneeze. I can make myself sneeze if I walking outside on a sunny day, for example, I mean, kind of not reliably reliably. Also, if you like just snort some black pepper, you will sneeze every time. But this was a taskmaster task, which I loved where they had to sneeze and everyone failed at it, except for the person who just straight up snorted black pepper and they sneezed, they sneezed, and it was not like a pleasant situation.

Yeah, it's interesting, like not to make this about tuberculosis, but that is my inclination in every conversation these days. It's interesting that in all of the talk about humoral flows and making sure that the right amount of blood would inflem and whatnot were coming out of the body or going into the body or whatever, that there wasn't that much focus on sneezing. Like, why did we waste all this energy on blood wedding with leeches when we could have been making people snort black pepper to get some of those sneezes out? Seems like a missed opportunity to me.

I mean, they probably did that. I don't know. I mean, I feel like if that was a common treatment, Hank, I would know about it. I know about rubbing buzzard fat onto your chest.

I know about drinking human milk, which was a common tuberculosis treatment. Oh, wow. All right. Here's in my research on the thing that I'm working on right now.

Here's a weird one. So for 99.9% of human history, we knew that if we stopped breathing, we would die immediately. Yeah. Everybody knew that.

That was well known. And we had no idea why. And people didn't think about it. Like, you spend your whole life breathing and never stopping and then you stop when you die.

Yeah. And then it's just sort of like, yeah, that's the thing. So much so that the word respiration contains within it the word spirit or soul and the word inspiration means to breathe in. And the word expire means to stop breathing.

That's great. I'm going to use that. Please don't. It's in my tuberculosis thing.

There is a little overlap. And so we've got to be can I read to you? Can I read to you a passage from the infirmities of genius from 1833? Okay.

This was in an era when instead of being imagined as being kind of like mentally ill, artists were imagined as being very physically sickly. Oh, okay. Weird. It's part of the romanticization of tuberculosis.

You know, Charlotte Bronte, even as she was suffering from tuberculosis and both of her sisters had died from writing that she was aware that tuberculosis is an attractive malady. There's just a ton of that. But anyway, this thing from the infirmities of genius is illustrated is so good. And it's about authors, and we're both authors.

So I thought that you would like this. There's a description of the authorial personality, which features eccentricities of thought and action, waywardness, peevishness, irascibility, misanthropy, murky passions, and a thousand indescribable idiosyncrasies. And I read that and I was like, shut up. It's not your business.

I wouldn't even know what you know. Infirmities of genius illustrated from 1833. Shut your mouth. I don't talk to you.

Like that. Give me the last three again. I think the most important ones are their waywardness, their peevishness, their irascibility, misanthropy, murky passions, and thousand indescribable idiosyncrasies. murky passions is great.

You don't really think of a passion as being potentially murky, but then now that you've said it, I'm like, yeah, I feel like in the 19th century, one of the biggest fears was a murky passion. Like, boy, I don't want to have a kid with a murky passion. Right. Yeah, that's a potential catastrophe.

For one thing, they're going to definitely get tuberculosis. I wanted to have a fire in his heart and a light in his eyes. Well, that was the other thing, right? Is that people would be like, well, we all know that farmers have this natural fire within them.

Because that's not like they say warm in the cold weather. And so, this is it, John. This it comes back all the like, it's always true. Never attribute to anything.

What could be attributed to class? Yes. Oh, I mean, that is that is so true. And by the way, there were to inequality and injustice.

Yeah, never attribute to race, what can be attributed to racism, never attribute to class, what can be attributed to classism. Yeah. Yeah, there, this was a common problem. And also, like, there were lots of people who are pointing out that it was a problem, right?

So there were lots of people, for instance, there were lots of African-American physicians saying, actually, I think, because at the time it was believed by kind of white society, that black people couldn't get tuberculosis. And there were lots of African-American doctors. That would be a thing at the time who were like, yeah, no, like lots of lots of people are getting tuberculosis. We're pretty pretty positive, pretty sure of it.

And you know, with the farming thing, there were lots of people who were like, yeah, I mean, I know a couple farmers who got consumptive. And I know a lot more like consumptive people who were told by their doctors to go be farmers who like, just don't seem to have gotten better. Yeah. So it's just so much of it is about who you listen to and making sure that you listen broadly.

Yes. And that's not, that's not easy. It's not easy. We have a natural desire not to listen broadly.

So I get it, but it leads to a lot of catastrophes. Like this one from Elizabeth, sorry, I don't know how to transition. So I just made one that didn't make any sense. Dear Hank and John, I'm fresh off a young people just don't want to work these days conversation and I'm really tired and discouraged.

How do you recommend addressing these comments in a way that helps people, especially older people, have a little more compassion for the struggles of the younger generation, paychecks and provisions Elizabeth. A lot, there's a lot of research that says that data doesn't help in difficult conversations, but I think that this is one that is not yet hot enough for it to have gotten there. And I think that data can help in this situation. Yeah.

And so there's some pretty easy comparisons you can make between the sort of like minimum wage earned in 1980 and the cost of a house or the average income in the cost of a house. And you sort of say like the, the cost of a house would be like five yearly salaries and now it's 10 or now it's 15 or 20. I don't know what the exact that is. But to have one of those in your back pocket is always nice.

And also that the, another piece of very clear, you know, reliable piece of data that people understand pretty well, is that the unemployment rate is as low as it has ever been. So if people don't want to work, what, why are they all working? Yeah, I mean, that's a good one. The one that I like to use is just so I can be clear.

When was it that young people like to work? And what the person will say is inevitably when they were young, yeah, is when people like to work. And then what I like to say is it's interesting that you should mention the year 1978, because in the year 1978, the US's labor force participation rate was lower than it is now. So I guess people didn't like to work that much in 1978 because fewer of them worked.

Yeah, it's, it's, I think that this conversation hasn't gotten so heated and isn't sort of like tied into people's identity as much. But, but in, yeah, I mean, it's very easy to have like a, to have, you know, like, and when we're older, we're going to think that we worked really hard when we were young and that people aren't working as much in the future than young people then also won't be working hard, or we won't think that they are. It's just going to be a thing. It's always been a thing.

But I think that luckily, this is an issue that isn't that tied in, I mean, maybe for some people, but isn't that tied into sort of like the heated topics of the day, which is space to just allow the data to tell the story and keep in track of this stuff and like, here's the situation. And so if you're having an experience, that might be that one person. And, and that certainly, it's, it's, I think, I think it's pretty harmful to be attributing to an entire group of people, something that you noticed one time. Yeah, or something that you heard about on the news, which I think is actually what it's usually about.

I think it's usually about the great resignation as a concept, right? Like an abstract idea, which is more of like a thing that happened because they got, we got a good word for it, then then that actually happened. Yeah, or, or I mean, I think there's some legitimacy to the idea that a lot of people moved around in the wake of an earth shattering social order upending pandemic started to think differently about their priorities. That's certainly true.

Imagining that as primarily being about the way that people participate in the labor force is another example of a problematic way of thinking about human value. Yep. This next question comes from Hannah who asks Dear Hank and John. John mentioned AL-8, the ginger ale from Kentucky on the last episode of Dear Hank and John.

And Hank said that no one had heard of it. As a Kentuckyan, I had no idea that people didn't know about AL-8. It has been a stable of my household for years. But my question is, does every region have delicious secret sodas?

Amateur soda kind of sore, Hannah? No. No, it really doesn't. Some do.

AL-8 is not just a Kentucky thing. It's also a climbing thing. Like I was at a climbing gym over the weekend with my kid. Several people came up to me and were like, hey, I love that you mentioned AL-8 on the podcast.

And I was like, yeah, I do. Yeah. So it's also, but that speaks, I think, to this emerging way of understanding regionalism, which is not geographic, but affinity-based. So climbers have their own soda, and Kentucky has its own soda.

And I think that's interesting. But no, most regions do not have their own special soda. There was a special kind of Dr. Pepper in Denton, Texas, until like 20 years ago, maybe.

And it wasn't that different from regular Dr. Pepper. It was just a little bit of a different one. What's the one that RC Cola, that's the one that was all around for a while.

But RC Cola is not really regional, is it? I mean, maybe not like a big one. Yeah, but like a big one. regional, maybe Mountain Dew was regional.

Mountain Dew was very much regional to the south. And then there's things like, I don't know how to say, does it Rabina, the Scottish one? Yeah. Remember like we did a show in Scotland and like people threw Rabina onto the stage?

Yeah, that was Iron Brew. Oh, that's what it is. What's Rabina? Is that also Scotland?

Rabina. It was Iron Brew. And was it? Yeah.

Was it in Scotland? That was Scotland, yes. Okay. Yeah, I did not.

I didn't love the Iron Brew. I feel bad. No, it made my taste buds think, I can see this, but it made my body think, no. Yeah, my body's on the move.

I'm feeling some things. Yeah, I was like my muscles didn't like it. Like my muscles got crampy. I think it was just too much caffeine for me, maybe.

I don't know if it even has caffeine. Rabina is a real thing. That's good. It's a berry flavored and it's from the United Kingdom, British origin.

Iron Brew has quinine, the anti-malary medication. It's got a flavor that isn't bad when mixed with sugar. Sure. Yeah, it's sort of tonic-y.

Well, there you go. I can't really think of any other regional sodas though, not ones that are particularly good, at least that I've ever had. Yeah, there's all these microbrew kinds of sodas now. Like the fancy root beers that are just made in your town.

But there's something to that. There was the era when sodas were originally created and then like Coke and Pepsi one and then they bought up all the other ones and then they were the two Cola companies. But there were a few that sort of held on and are just hanging out being eight ale. And that's weird.

Yeah, whatever. And obviously root beer and notably also Dr. Pepper. Dr.

Pepper has also remained free. And it's still free. It's the curry and Dr. Pepper company, which I think is the funniest thing in the world.

So good. That's a very weird thing to have happened. I know. I know.

I know. I think what's what's funniest about it is that what's funniest about it is that Dr. Pepper didn't buy curry quite the opposite. Curry bought Dr.

Pepper. They were like, we want that. We want that. We want that.

We want that. Curry existed for like 45 days before it bought Dr. Pepper. It's like a well-lined time-warner.

Wouldn't if Dr. Pepper wanted to get bought, wouldn't one of the soda companies have bought them? That's very weird to me. I maybe Curry wanted to get purchased by Coca-Cola and so they were like, we're going to get Dr.

Pepper and then Coca-Cola is going to have to get the whole thing. Well, so before, just so you know Hank, before Dr. Pepper was the Curry, Dr. Pepper group, it was of course the Dr.

Pepper Snapple group. Did something happen? No, it was so Dr. Pepper before being bought by Curry was bought by Snapple.

Remember when Snapple was a big deal? It was a big deal. Yeah. And so inside of the Curry, Dr.

Pepper Snapple group, we have a huge number of brands from Squirt. You remember Squirt? They still got that to Mott's apple sauce. What?

To Hawaiian? That's not even a drink. To Hawaiian punch. To RC Cola.

What? Yep. They're coming for Coca-Cola and Canada Dry. Canada Dry.

Any minor soda that feels like early 20th century, big red, sun-kissed? Oh wow, big red. All of these are part of the Dr. Pepper Snapple group.

Swaps. Yoo-hoo. Also very sort of early, been around. Oh, I love a yoo-hoo.

IBC. I love yoo-hoo. Oh, and the science. That science stuff.

I've never tried that, but I see it at the gas station. Yep. Yep. So there you go.

It really is. It's one of the- This? John, we're going to- We have to make a company that gets bought by Curry and Dr. Pepper.

This is our new goal. Well, and it's got to be a fiber supplement. No, we already have two companies, right? Like, why don't we just sell one of them to the Curry and Dr.

Pepper Snapple group? Do you guys ever- Do you guys thought about educational content at all? Yeah, get into the educational media industry. Have- I told the story on the podcast of my catastrophic interaction with the Dr.

Pepper Snapple group. I think- What did you do? I forgot. I had a meeting with Dr.

Pepper. They were very excited to meet with me as a celebrity, Dr. Pepper fan. They were like, we can't wait for this meeting and all of your ideas about how we could deepen our relationship.

And I was like, I also can't wait for this meeting. I've never been so nervous in my life. Get on the call. And within like four minutes, I've given them 17 ideas.

I'm like Hank Green, delivering new ideas. I've got a new idea every five seconds, each of them weirder than the last because I said, listen, I do have some ideas, but they're all weird. And Dr. Pepper was like, we're so excited about all your ideas.

And the weirder, the better. And then I told them my ideas. And they were like, whoa. Those are all way.

Yeah, you've taught you what I've told me about this. I love this, though. This is exactly what happened with me and Metamucil. I know.

I know. They were like, no, you don't understand, Hank. No one is like you. Yeah.

Like your audience, you've got all of them. You've already got every single person who's that weird. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right.

So like, so they just want you to like voice over the commercials. And I'm like, well, that's, I'm sorry. That's not interesting at all. Like, then I'm just the spokesperson for a sugar water company.

Like, yeah, that's not funny. You know what's funny. No, it's funny. You know what's funny.

It's not funny. It's spending $10 million to get AFC Wimbledon promoted. And in every single interview, no matter where, every single time, every single player has to mention Dr. Pepper.

That's hilarious. It's especially funny, since Dr. Pepper isn't even a very strong brand in the United Kingdom. That is cool.

They're like, this is not this is not a good idea. And you're like, but it's so funny. Do you agree at least that it's very funny? It is a good idea.

Like, it is so worth $10 million. Like Dr. Pepper says $10 million on like a Super Bowl ad. It's so worth $10 million for Dr.

Pepper to be in the hilarious position of like supporting a football team entirely because every single interview, the players have to say thank you to Dr. Pepper. Like, that is so funny. The super cut that they make on TikTok of every ASU Wimbledon player thanking Dr.

Pepper. It's gold. It's gold. It's a $10 million idea.

No doubt. And it gets AFC Wimbledon up to the third tier of English football. Everybody wins. I don't know.

They might understand their business better than you do, but I don't know. Maybe not. I've got another idea real quick. I just want to pitch you.

So you actually pitch that idea to them for the ASU Wimbledon thing? Yeah, that's a hilarious idea. Okay. Can I tell you one of the other things that I pitched them?

I think I've talked before about how I really thought Dr. Pepper should sponsor humanity's relationship with the moon. Okay. But that wasn't my best idea.

Last one. My best idea was that the spokesperson for Dr. Pepper should be Henry the 7th of England. And yeah, I could see this.

And he would that's more normal. He would just be like, listen, I live in the 1500s. I'm the richest, most powerful person in the world. And all I want is what I can't have, which is Dr.

Pepper. I mean, it's like, it's the pleasure. I cannot know the joy of an artificial taste, utterly artificial, radically artificial, some would argue, an anti-natural taste, which is the other thing I tried to sell them on. Stop trying to act like Dr.

Pepper tastes like anything of this world and lean into its radical artificiality. Yeah. This is just chemicals. That's what we love.

Yeah. It's gonna be Dr. Pepper. Just chemicals.

Just chemicals. Just chemicals, chemicals, by the way, that Henry the 7th would have started wars to be able to taste. Chemicals that would have been unimaginable to our forebears. Chemicals that all those people, the 93 billion people, now I'm really getting into it, Hank, the 93 billion people who came before us but are no longer here, who built the world in the hopes that one day, their great grandchildren and great, great, great grandchildren who live in a world where for 50 cents, you can taste something that is not of this planet.

That's what Henry the 7th would say in my Dr. Pepper. You could write some killer Dr. Pepper ads that I think would maybe alienate a fair amount of the Dr.

Pepper audience, but I don't know. That seems to be their concern. That seems to be their concern. I love that though.

I do now. I am very deeply grateful for my ability to have a La Croix. Well, don't tell that to the Dr. Pepper's Napa group.

They're gonna pick up La Croix. No worries. Ah, snap him up. No, they gotta wait until La Croix is on the down part of its way.

That's where the Dr. Pepper's Napa group jumps in. La Croix is already owned by the National Beverage Corporation. Well, I mean, you don't think that the Dr.

Pepper or Exnapel group could add another name to its name? Yeah, well, yeah. The only big brands that NBC has are La Croix, Shasta and Fago, but they do have this, John. Their Nasdaq ticker.

Their Nasdaq ticker is F-I-Z-Z. That's good. Whoever did that, that's the greatest asset of them. Yeah, Fizz.

Fizz. I love that. They also own a brand called Rippet. It's not like their Mountain Dew competitor.

They're like Monster Energy Drink is called Rippet. Yeah, fully half its Rippet energy fuel. That's not how it works. Fully half of their brands are red on Wikipedia.

Like the like R-E-D. They do not have a link. If you want to write a story about Rippet's The Soft Drink, you can if you want. Nobody has written that article yet.

One of the brands owned by Dr. Pepper is called Deja Blue. Oh, fancy. All right.

Okay. We're supposed to answer questions this podcast. Do that. Picture concept to Dr.

Pepper. All right. Thank you. This question goes from anonymous.

I heard you're now offering Dekaft Coffee if you have some coffee club. That's cool. But when are you going to make tea? Oh, I don't know.

I love tea so much. I do too. I love tea. I want to make tea, but you got the loose leaf.

You got the pre-bagged. You've got the people who like the chamomile, people who like their black teas. A lot of tea. There's three kinds of teas, John.

Okay. There's green tea. There's black tea. Yeah.

And there's like all the weird things that people are up to. Okay. All right. Those are the three types of tea.

One green tea, one black tea, and one, and we call it a weird tea that represents what people are up to, which is maybe like a different tea every every month. It's like a herbal tea. Maybe that's actually kind of what I was thinking. I feel like you just had that idea right then.

And it was really good. That's actually really good because it's because like if you like something with rooeboos in it, you don't want to have the same tea every day. Whereas I like black tea and I would like to have the same tea every day. Okay.

All right. So we've got but if you if you got a bunch of like flowers in your tea, then you don't want the same tea every day. You want a bunch of weird stuff. You want a tea of the month club.

All right. Yeah. So then we've got three products. Well, we don't have three products because we got to go bagged and un-bagged, right?

We got to go lose and bagged. So we got six products. That's a lot of work. And I don't know if we have do we have 2000 customers for each of those six products?

That's not I don't know, man. I think that I think that we've I think there's a different I think there's a different path that we have to start looking at here. I think it's starting up a bunch of clubs. We can't we can't we can't we can't we can't be doing everything as a different club.

Right. Got to find a find a different way if we're going to keep trying to add add things to satisfy people's needs for quality products with trusted supply chains that have positive impacts on the world and donate other profit to charity. Yeah, it gets the size of the idea gets pretty big, pretty fast. And that's intimidating to me.

And so I'm just going to go straight to the sponsors, which is the awesome coffee clubs decaf, the awesome coffee club at awesome coffee club.com. Now we have decaf. It's not really a joke sponsor. It's kind of a real one.

This podcast is also brought to you by all of the people who are going to come for me for the way I pronounced Royboos, which I'm sure is not pronounced like that. Yeah, but I've never heard it spoken. I've only seen it on the teas. I've always thought that it was rhombus.

But but thank you to all those people who are going to come for me for my pronunciation of Royboos. And of course, today's podcast is brought to you by the Dr. Pepper, Curric National Beverage Corporation Company, limited liability corporation. Fizz.

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The URL is available. You can't buy Hank.com, but you can't buy awesome black pepper snorton club. Oh my god. Can we talk about what happened to Hank.com?

That's incredible. I mean, I really feel like I'm I don't like to make myself the hero. Yeah. I killed Hank.com.

You're not the hero. You're not the hero. You obviously are not are not anything but the villain. The villain.

I like that even more. So I don't know what's going on with Hank.com right now. All we know is that Hank and I made some good old fashioned fun of the world's greatest website Hank.com and the creator of Hank.com seems we've taken down the website in response, which is devastating. Yeah.

Because it was a great website and it couldn't have been. Oh my god. It couldn't have been the cost of hosting because that website is four kilobytes big. Well, a good job.

And nothing bad would happen. Yeah. I feel bad. I hope Hank that I hope Hank.com doesn't hate me now.

I hope that we're still on good terms, but I could not afford the price that he wanted to charge me to buy it. Well, I would have the price and I also want to afford it and I can afford a lot of things. Yeah. I was like, I was like, this is a great joke.

It's not a six figure joke. You know, like me buying Hank.com and then banning you from using it is hilarious. That's a great joke. It can't cause it.

It can't have a comma. Like it can have a comma. It can't. Yeah.

That joke. Okay. That's a four. It have a comma.

That's a $4,000 joke. I would pay $4,000 for that joke knowing that I could probably get it $4,000 back by selling Hank.com to some other Hank. Yeah. Oh my God.

Two of had Hank.com. We also have a project for awesome message. This is from mom and dad and Baton Rouge to Oliver. What do you call an extraterrestrial kangaroo?

A Mars soupie all. This was the first joke that you ever wrote and what comedy gold we've greatly enjoyed. Your prolific works of short stories and screenplays over the last several years. And we are very proud of the writer you are becoming.

Keep asking questions actively listening and finding humor and empathy everywhere. High school's gonna be great. Mom and dad. Mars soupie.

That's good. Mars soupie. That's good. That's the kind of energy I want you to bring every week.

That's my bad. I should console Oliver. You should. You should.

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Does that work the opposite way? If I were in a submarine and it ruptured quickly, I would be in a lot of trouble. But if I went down real slow, would I be okay and could I survive assuming I have enough oxygen? What a gem.

Great. We got a couple of problems, specifically the air that's inside of us. So you gotta have air inside of you, which is why in some science fiction, they breathe in like a liquid breathable thing and that would allow for your lungs to get the oxygen, breathing this liquid thing without air, which is very compressible. So air can squeeze very tightly.

It's the abyss. It's the abyss. Yeah. And that's real.

We can make breathable liquids now and we've tested them for various situations where people's lungs are damaged. Actually more in hospital situations where ones are damaged and having them be in a liquid actually be therapeutic, but it's turns out, while people can survive and be fine, it doesn't seem to have much therapeutic value. Yet, I don't know. It's a script that is maybe in the works of SciShow and so we've been looking at it.

But the it's cool, but the big problem is that air is compressible and so your anything that would have air in it would get squished. Now you also do wanna go down very slowly when you're going to any depth because there's nitrogen in your blood and there's often nitrogen in the air that you're breathing, though sometimes you can have scuba tanks that don't have nitrogen and that can dissolve and the higher pressures will dissolve more nitrogen in your blood and then as you come up, the pressure decreases and that nitrogen will no longer have a force dissolving in your blood and it will create bubbles and then you have the bends where you have air in your blood vessels, which is very bad. But that's a separate problem from, you cannot go into a certain depth in the ocean because you have gas inside of you and that gas will compress to the point where you no longer will be able to breathe. So let's try to avoid that party, Jim.

Yes, it's neat though. We have another question. And the fish and jellyfish and stuff that they have at the Monterey Bay into the deep exhibit are all animals that don't have gas inside of them. Because there are deep sea animals that do have gas inside of them and you cannot bring them up.

Interesting. All right, we have another question from Ori who writes, dear John and Hank, my 10 year old daughter, Ori is a new nerd fighter and has the following question for you. If people say things are going south when something bad happens, why don't they say things are going north when something good happens? Ori and Rachel.

I think we should, I think we gotta get rid of this whole idea that south is down and north is up as you know Hank. I think we need to just do away with it. I think we need to start saying going north when things are going south and going south when things are going north. I think we need to...

Well, there's a way in which that makes sense. Actually, are you ready to get your mind blown? Yes. So the north pole is a south pole.

What? So then the compass needle is the north part of a magnet, is the part that points north. And the north part of a magnet points to, is attracted to the south pole of another magnet. And the earth is a giant magnet because it's got by its lots of stuff falling around on the inside.

So the earth is a giant magnet. And the north compass needle points to... What is a north compass needle point to? The south pole.

A south pole. But it's pointing north. North pole. North pole is a south pole.

It is a south pole. Yeah. So we need a south pole with a giant earth magnet. So you're right.

But also, everything's subjective and there is no ebb and down. The solar system is not a top or not. I really, I feel bad for Ori having to tell them the big news that there is no up or down or left and right, except in so far as you're observing it as you are. Yeah.

And that matters. So your left is left of you, but it's not left. Well, the weird thing is that we extend this out to the whole rest of the solar system. And so like we've got a top of earth.

And also we've decided that there's a top of Jupiter. Totally. And there's a top of the sun. Yeah.

That's why that Jupiter storm is always in the same place, even though it's not. I mean, it is always in the same place, but like whether it's up or down is in our minds. Yes. Yes, the part of the planet.