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I'm trying to understand if it's better for processing to talk about it more in public or if it's better for processing to just kind of move on from it in public even if you I presume aren't and won't move on from it privately. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it will continue to be a part of my story but hopefully less and less as the years go obviously as the year go by.
But yeah, I mean it definitely has changed my relationship with anxiety a lot. I didn't really understand and I didn't have like the tools to deal with that because I hadn't dealt with it as much. I certainly had lots of stressful and nervous making anxious times in my life but not to the point where it sort of takes over the way that it does now sometimes. Yeah.
And you've been very helpful in that because you do have that experience. I have yes I have swum through those waters. I think the best image for it I've ever seen is is in Edna St Vincent Malay's poem where she talks about how three flakes and then four arrive at the beginning of a snowstorm and you just see a few flakes and then there's a line break and she says then many more. How like it just starts off just like a thought or like a few thoughts and then many more.
Yeah. Yeah. And the thing that has helped me the most has been thinking about what you said which is like the anxiety is saying like hey there's something we need to pay attention to and if you're like I don't think you're there that doesn't help. No.
It was like there isn't something we need to pay attention to shush. That's it continues to sit and build and get spicier and spicier. So you have to say yes there is something that we should be worried about and here's what it is and I recognize that your fear is valid and I see it and I we are doing the right thing with regards to it. Yeah.
And we still need to do the dishes. Let's do that. There is still a world. Yeah.
I've been struggling with my mental health. So I'm not so quite a bit over the last few months and we just got a puppy. Potato. His name is potato.
Yes. I've heard potato. Do you know why we called him potato? I don't think the listeners do.
I tell me the lady we got potato from is this wonderful Croatian lady and every time she would show us potato she would say look at him. Look at him. He's just little potato. You touch his ear.
Potato. You touch his toes. Potato. He's just potato all the time no matter what.
And we told the kids that and the kids were like what a great dog name. He's just little potato and I was like no no no no. He's just potato. We should name him Franklin or some fancy dog name.
You know like King Joseph the fourth of Bavaria but no potato. Well anyway. Yeah. I mean the good news is John that I don't have this new peek-a-boo virus.
Oh there's a peek-a-boo virus? Yeah it's super it's very worrying. Pretty much everybody who gets peek-a-boo is sent straight to the ICU. Oh yeah.
Okay. I like this thing where the dad joke comes in unexpectedly but like not in a way that's in line with the rest of the podcast. Like that did not line up at all with what I was talking about. I was talking about potato and it's clear that you just weren't listening to me and looked at the dad joke.
I went back to the I was bringing it back to the health conversation. Okay. All right. Yes.
At least you know at least we don't have the peek-a-a-boo virus. Anyway it is both helpful and not helpful to have potato in my life right now because on the one hand he forces me to go outside no matter how bad the weather is and I guess that's good for my stupid brain that likes to be outside and get smoothed over a little bit by the you know wind and whatnot but on the other hand she sees a lot of work and I don't have a lot of energy right now so I'm just faking it till I make it Hank which is another thing I find helpful when it comes to overwhelming anxiety or depressive episodes. It's just obviously you can't overdo it but just do the basics. You know.
The basics do what's in that list and it's not like I have a busy schedule because you're like I have to do a podcast now. Yeah well I would say almost that we get to do a podcast now because I've missed doing this. I mean I had a deal but there are times when I'm like I don't want to do anything. Sure of course.
I don't think I told you this yet but I've had a real it's only in the last two weeks when I've started to like turn to Sarah and like you and I will be like texting at night about something stupid about the news or social discourse or the quality of the declining quality of certain social media platforms and the fascinating lives of the people who own them and Sarah will be like why are you giggling and I'm like oh I'm just talking to Hank she's like it's time for bed read a book and I'm like oh yeah I want to talk to my brother though and I just like it's only in the last couple weeks that I've even allowed myself to think oh my god I'm so glad I get to talk to my brother. Well let's hope that it stays all good news. Yeah I'm not that worried about that. Yeah I'm not that worried about it.
I mean it's so annoying. Like I thought I thought that surviving cancer there was always there were people who are like cancer survivorship is hard and I'm like okay I believe that and here's what I think that means after you're done with cancer you have to like go back to your normal life and like remember what that's like and try to do all the things that you were supposed to do before and have all the same like things that you value that you valued before when you're like actually what's it all about that's like what's what's life why are we here and that's hard that is part of the survivorship thing but very important to cancer survivorship and why there is a lot of support for people who have been through cancer treatment and cancer and are not are currently in remission is that it there's a bunch of problems like you get disabled by treatment you get disabled by your surgeries your cancer your chemotherapy like that stuff like lingers and is hard to work through you have a bunch of like things that might go wrong in the future that you have to keep an eye on like I have this dramatically increased chance of sudden pulmonary toxicity and scarring that is a years-long thing and I can never scuba dive ever and again because of it which is weird because it's weird it's weird because all these like things that you've been worried about I'm gonna stop you but I am gonna stop you I think it's great news that you never get to scuba dive it's actually I hate to say it but that's like huge right off my list I mean if you were gonna if you were gonna scuba dive it would have caused me so much stress so I appreciate you at least doing one thing that's gonna make my life better but go on I didn't mean to yeah and yeah but it's not just that it's also that like there's psychological stuff too right and like I have all kinds of what changes yeah I have a bunch of increased risks for a bunch of things including other cancers including my own cancer and so like the including health problems which are very real yeah it feels very much like I like should be worried all the time right and like I kind of should be right and that's hard it's easier it's honestly easier right now because I'm about to have a scan and after the scan I'll know what's up but this is my last scan of the treatment plan so if I get another scan it's because we think something might be wrong yeah you know I don't want to make everything about tuberculosis Hank but it was believed for many years that tuberculosis was linked to madness especially in the late 19th and early 20th centuries that insanity and tuberculosis kind of went hand in hand and what actually of course went hand in hand is that when you have a serious life-threatening illness it changes a lot of things about who you are in the way you look at the world and also there is social isolation and stigma and people talking to you differently and all kinds of other factors that are that can really profoundly shape your experience of being in the world and so that totally makes sense to me that all of that stuff would be linked and that you would feel like you need to worry like yeah I it you know I think it's part of what makes it hard right is that you can't fight it with reason because it's perfectly reasonable to be worried yeah yeah and also like it's it's a thing that you that's very easy to be worried about and you don't actually have the information like what like during cancer treatment it was like I'm doing the thing I'm supposed to do right now it's like yeah right now I'm just waiting well yeah sitting yeah with regards to health yeah I also this is wild can't take my like the main whole sort of glitis medicine I was on before because it increases the chances that the cancer will come back so I have to take like my old crappy you see medicine but so far so good with that stuff okay yeah so it's all a whole different set of stuff to deal with like for example sharks this question is from Bruce who asks do you reckon John I know the transition only the most professional podcasters can pull off that kind of transition you never hear that stuff on them bam bam there's been a lot of news about work is destroying boats lately are they the only animals that do this how many shrimp would it take to sink a sailboat Hank and John more like sank by prawn Bruce it's worth reading just for that side off huh yeah I don't really have anything else to say now like sharks will do this that there was a boat in Australia that was recently attacked and partially destroyed by cookie cutter sharks which is the most adorable little name for a shark do you know how cookie cutter sharks got their adorable little name John do they bite in a way that like leaves behind a perfect Christmas ornament shape yeah yeah it leaves behind a little cookie hole like the size of shape of a cookie wow it's so upsetting that's that's a bit of a bummer I was hoping that Australians were like yeah we'll call that a cookie cutter shark because it's god god you didn't pretend to be Australian for a year you just pretend to be British because it's adorable and everything in Australia has to sound really cute and be horrifying I I can't do accents as you know if I try to do an English accent it sounds German I'm I'm and if I try to do a German accent it sounds like way too German I've been dungeon mastering my son and his friends in a in an adventure and and I'm first off I like to think that I'm a pretty creative person it's been my my career um and yet somehow these kids they're just so unafraid of being like lame everyone knew that was going to be an intellect devourer you're not tricking anybody oh my god guys you know just be give lip service at least to my plot twists but anyway I try to do voices and they're relentless they're like where is he from is he uh is he French but his mother's Polish is he Algerian but he's got a dad from Botswana like what's happening there um but I do have I think I have I think I've mastered one Australian word thanks to the social internet which is no and I think it's like this I think it's like no yeah that's kind of error no no no no no I didn't get it that time no oh no oh god I lost it I had it no on second I thought I was just nope uh I think that I think that shrimp could totally shrink uh sync a ship if they wanted to mantis shrimp punch really hard I saw a video when I was thinking about this question of a man getting punched through his boot by a mantis shrimp and he was like that hurt very bad and he takes up his boot and he's bleeding on the inside of his boot oh my god yeah if you can make your make a man bleed through a boot then you can probably if you work hard enough punch a hole through a boat but right I think the challenge for mantis shrimp would not be whether they can do it it would be whether they could get organized and collaborative enough to do it they're pretty smart but I don't know that they have that going for them yet yeah um hey I really need to ask this question because I have an astonishingly similar story so similar that reminds me of your first novel an absolutely remarkable thing Amy writes Dear John and Hank last night I had a nightmare involving a pelican it was trying to eat me which was really scary and painful what's the likelihood of being eaten by a pelican how do I stop this from becoming a recurring nightmare pelicans pumpkins and penguins Amy now first off can you be eaten by a pelican I assume not um you can you I mean if somebody wanted you to be they could make it happen but only after you were already dead and they'd have to do a lot of the work of yeah pelicans don't have to um I actually ordered pelican at a restaurant once pelican suit uh it was delicious but the bill was enormous god there's two of them all right so I know nothing is less interesting than other people's dreams as my friend Amy Cross Rosenthal always like to point out immediately before telling me about her most recent dream yeah but I would like to tell you about this pelican dream I have because it's nuts so I'm walking potato and I'm with a neighbor not a neighbor I know well but like somebody from the neighborhood I've met a few times who's also walking their dog and we're just chatting when this gigantic pelican and by the way there are pelicans in Indianapolis like when the stream happened which was like three weeks ago because they come through for their um migration and so I had seen pelicans in Indianapolis a few days earlier while running in Eagle Creek so it wasn't totally out of the blue I see a pelican but it's even bigger than than most pelicans and I think at first like maybe I'm just like much closer to it you know than I usually get to pelicans because it's like right for some reason it was standing on a wire it's like right there and the person I was with was like god it's a huge pelican I was like that is a huge pelican potato it was kind of barking out at pelicans kind of looking a scance at potato and I was like don't don't eat my dog man okay like just don't eat my dog that's how big of a pelican it was yeah okay it opens its mouth think uh-huh and you know what's in there your dog no like a four-year-old oh my god four-year-old human is in there crying and the lady's like you got to do something and I was like me why is it always me why always the one that tries to do something you know I have to be the hero you get to be the hero so I climb up the telephone pole as you know I could totally reach into this gigantic oversized pelican's mouth as I totally could and pull out this four-year-old who's just drenched in pelican's spit spittle whatever and I take the kid down and I'm like he's like oh my god thank you so much he doesn't you know he's fours he doesn't talk that much but he's like thank you thank you thank you that was so scary I was like dude where are you from and he's like Hinsdale and I'm like Hinsdale the suburb of Chicago he's like yeah this pelican flew me here for Hinsdale has started his migration and I got my phone wrote crap man do you know your address and he's like no I'm four I was like well we gotta get your home buddy this is gonna be a problem and that then it turned into a madcap road trip with this neighbor I don't know very well two dogs and a four-year-old who was trying to describe to us what part of Hinsdale he lived in that's great and I woke up thinking my first thought when I woke up was is that a movie like could I make that into a movie problem that's fine but it could be is it a movie here's what I will say John if a pelican could eat a person they would you think so oh yeah pelicans you catch them eating like pigeons sometimes they'll eat whatever you just wouldn't fit like they don't they can't they got a little hole at the back of their throat only if size things can fit through it sure so they're not a part safe including four-year-olds I know again this guy wasn't getting eaten by the pelican he was just been traveled he was just it was it was a mode of transportation for him he didn't want it to be though he basically been kidnapped you know the largest pelican the donation pelican can weigh up to 33 pounds and has a wingspan of almost 12 feet now is this a dad joke no that's a real fact that's terrifying they are they are maybe the largest flying bird there's some feet different ways you can define it 12 feet that that's a that's a dinosaur like that's a pterodactyl dinosaur like they look and we think maybe feed the same way as some pterodactyls oh man that's wild that reminds me actually that today's podcast is brought to you by the Dalmatian pelican the Dalmatian pelican it can't eat you but it would if it could today's podcast is also brought to you by pelican soup pelican soup it's delicious but the bills are enormous and of course today's podcast is brought to you by that pelican who kidnapped a four-year-old that is not cool and bet the podcast is also brought to you by nares nares it's what it's like what birds have instead of nostrils I think and pelicans don't have functional nares so they have to breathe through their mouth is that true their mouth breathers like Harry Kane that's right I don't know who Harry Kane is he's a striker for England who just always breathes through his mouth I don't know how it's to say it it's not it's not I don't mean it as an insult I just mean it as an observation they're like that I'll tell you what there's about 14 people who listen to the spotgast who just burst out laughing yeah they got it they I think that they've evolved like a separate thing to do with their nostrils to excrete salt maybe um because they eat so much ocean life yeah so they just not out that salt yeah smart zoods crystals they're got a project for us a message just from Jonas who asked who says oh wait could you just like pen I'm sorry I don't want to interrupt the project for us it's good could you just like pen them up the way that you know we do with 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See website for more details. Now what is it that you wanted to tell me about? So I got access to the platform behind the social shopping on TikTok where you can see what you can sell as a creator, you can make videos, sell products, and then you can make an amount of money every time somebody buys the product. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you make a commission.
Yeah, which I think is broadly fine. I think it's a little weird, but broadly fine. The- The test resulted in one quarter of my for you page being TikTok shop advertisements. Many of them hosted by myself.
Yeah, which is the most uncomfortable. When I'm advertising to me, when I'm always like, I think it's cancer socks, I'm like, oh God, that guy's so annoying. So I can't imagine other people. Enough.
Yeah. TikTok, once you make a video that is successfully selling something on TikTok, TikTok will not stop showing into people. Yeah. Even if you ask them to.
I have found, so when I'm in this little area, I can see what is selling a lot and I can see how much you make when you're selling it. And the, and I can also watch the videos that are promoting it and the amount of like bizarre nutritional supplements that are selling with like brands you've never heard of that I can't imagine there's anyone checking what's actually in this stuff. And like the videos are like it cured my acne, it made me sleep better. It like, it does everything these things.
They do everything. Right. And like, you know, because they are nothing and they sell for a fairly high price, you get paid a lot per sale. I'm like, this is a very weird thing to be incentivizing.
Well, to be fair, we've been in that business. I know, we have. One way or another. It's true.
Like humans have been in that business one way or another for literally thousands of years. Yeah. So it's not a huge surprise to me that that business continues to be a business. It's just like being invited into it, being like, look at the plethora of things that look at all the money you could be making.
Like I do wish I made more money from TikTok. Yeah. Well, you know, I think that the main thing is, is people to sign up for the awesome Socks Club and I guess that's the main thing. I guess that's where I'll be.
Yeah. Like we guess that's the main thing. That's what we need to be doing. Yeah.
I have been asking myself why I'm on TikTok lately. But then I just got a good idea for a TikTok. So I think I'm going to make the ones of now. And maybe that's why I'm on TikTok because sometimes I have good ideas for TikToks.
That's yeah. Hank, let me ask you a question that is not a leading question. By the way, you're going to be fine about that Penguin nightmare. It's going to be fine.
Just don't have my bank nightmare. Yeah. There's a hole with the back of the throat. You're too big to fit in it.
Bella asks, dear John and Hank, my sister heard from a friend that if you pour a shot of vodka into the water for your bouquet of flowers, they'll perk up and have a second wind. And so far it seems to be working. The tulips we gave vodka to, especially compared to the Vaz that we only gave water to. Well, they did like a control trial.
Not only refreshed after being droopy, but totally opened up. Rose's my sister had for over a week are still looking like new. What is going on here? Vaga un Vaz's Bella.
Yeah, this is a real thing. This is real? Yeah. So it's just like me.
I'm perfect right now, man. That's not what happens to me. No, I turn. I go the other way.
You put vodka in me. I turn. I start to droop. I must go to watch TV and sleep now.
But yeah, it inhibits ethylene, which is the ethanol in the vodka, inhibits ethylene, which is the gas that plants involve in ripening in various ways. I don't really know how, but it means it not produced that. But don't just put them in straight. Don't put them in straight vodka.
That will kill them. And there's a ratio. You can look it up. And there's also, this is what I love.
And so you could also put citrus soda in, because the glucose is good for them, like the sugars in the soda. And the acid makes it so that the water has an easier time getting up the stock for some reason, which means that not only our plants' drunks, they're dirty drunks. They're just drinking seven up in vodka. Hey, hey, hey, there's nothing wrong with drinking seven up in vodka, or Mountain Dew and bourbon, or rum and coke, or whatever your con.
I don't know. I mean, I do. I love the thought of a seven up in vodka does sound lovely. I just don't think it's the highest class of cocktails.
I think it depends on the quality of the seven up you got. That's true. But if it, but you don't need a good seven up, they're plants. So you could just use like the word after whatever it's called.
Yeah, they can get the dr. thunder seven up, no worries. Western family is the store brand we have here. That's a good family.
I like it. I liked it. Western families, Dr. Pepper called you.
No, it's just called Western family. John, I'll be honest with you. I don't buy soda. I know you don't.
I know, which is, by the way, such a. I don't know. I don't know exactly how to explain to you how it comes across when you say I don't buy soda to me. But it's a little bit like when I tell somebody that I'm vegetarian and then they respond that they're vegan.
Like, OK, fine. OK, good for you. Competition. All right, I'm going to buy soda.
Congratulations. OK. God, it must be fun to live without one of life's primary joys as a virtue signaling. Yeah, I do drink it sometimes.
But like I don't have it in the house. It seems like I can't have it in the. I can't have it in the house. I can have LaCroix in the house, but I can't have Dr.
Pepper in the house. I have to. But I will go out of my way to get it. Like I'll all be down from school and be like, OK, listen, we got to stop by the circle.
OK. Daddy's got it. Daddy's got to pick something up. Totally fantastic.
Yeah, I do that with like with fast food sandwiches. Yes. Like the other day I went to the warehouse to pack socks. And on the way, like the whole day I was like, I'm going to go to fix on on the way.
And I left like a half an hour early and I just. Yeah. You just loved. I loved the fast food sandwich, man.
Yeah. They're so salty. There's so much salt. And you know what else they have that I really like?
Consistency. They taste the exact same as the last one. Yeah, I went to McDonald's. I didn't even know it was there.
I was like, oh, man, I got on the wrong road. How am I going to get to McDonald's now? And I was like, well, I guess I'll find another best food restaurant. And I was like, there's McDonald's.
And it was exactly the same. Yeah. I would call it a miracle, except it's actually the most common thing that could possibly occur. Yes.
All right. Isn't that the case with so many miracles? Like yeah, plants just everywhere. What are you?
You just grow yourself. That's amazing. And they are fucking sprites. Yeah.
Yeah. Even after you've been like cut down so that you can be enjoying someone's home as long as somebody gives you vodka and stuff and up, you're like, all right, I'll hang around for a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll stay in this party a couple extra days.
All right. Hank, it's time for the All-important news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon. Do you want to do Mars news? Yeah, we usually do.
OK. I don't know how it works. You know, remember this is you don't remember that in the podcast, we do Mars news and AFC Wimbledon news every week for the last 300 episodes. Every other week now.
Sometimes you go first. Oh, yeah. I mean, I can go first. You can go first.
There's no that is not set in stone. What is set in stone is that the people, Hank, they come to us for news about Mars and AFC Wimbledon. That is the primary reason why people listen to this podcast. John.
Yes. That's why we save it for the end, so that they have to wait. We have to get there all the ads. I have to do another one.
Yeah. Yeah. John. Yeah.
So you know that we now have a little helicopter that flies across Mars. That's one of my favorite things we've ever done. We put a little helicopter drone on Mars and we've blown it around so much. It's the thing that it's supposed to do.
Fly the wrong on Mars. It's supposed to go on like 12 flights. It's been on like 12,000 million. Exactly.
Somewhere like that. Well, since we figured out it definitely works, everybody is feverishly working on new extra Earth helicopter designs. So the fact that it's still in operation today, it's been able to do so much. NASA will probably want to send up more helicopters on future missions that are more capable.
And that also means ways to improve. And that also means they want to improve on that design. So like they've learned a bunch recently, they tested out a new dual rotor system that has two carbon fiber blades that are longer than the ones on ingenuity. And a team of scientists in China also recently published designs for a quadcopter called Mars Bird 7, Mars Bird 7.
It's foldable to help save space on the way to Mars. And that might not end up being a design used for a future mission, but China is looking at launching a sample return mission around 2028 or 2030 and planning for a mission to make a mission to make a mission to involve a helicopter of some kind to be involved in that. Cool. That's great.
Yeah, I mean, it does make me wonder, tell me if this is a crazy idea. So the biggest part of the energy is leaving Earth's atmosphere, but then there is a little bit of extra energy that comes with landing and then having to go back, you know, leave Mars's gravity and go back to Earth, right? I wonder if you could keep the spaceship in orbit and sort of just like drop down a bunch of helicopters for the go pick up the samples. Well, they have to, they still have to get back.
You can't helicopter all the way back to space. Great point, because there's no air. Yeah. Solid point.
That happens when we try to go to the top of Mount Everest in a helicopter. There are people who use the air up until you cannot use it anymore and have to have design systems that use the air until you can't use it anymore and then have a rocket that blasts off from that platform. In fact, I designed one of those based on a helicopter in Kerbal Space Programons. Oh, well, that will totally work on Mars.
I don't know. Maybe it will. Actually, that's a very cool idea. I shouldn't have diminished it.
I love that idea. Like a helicopter in the helicopter ring and then it kind of folds up its little helicopter wings and just becomes a rocket. Yes. I think that I put it on YouTube if you want to search for helicopter properties.
You've got a gift for titles. Well, it is from America's second favorite fourth year English soccer team. So it's, you know, it was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
It was the middlingest of times. Right now we have to move in the league to table and it's December sixth. As we're recording. So this is important to know because yeah, 10th is great.
Last year we were not in 10th. But there's there's a big thing coming up next month that could really reshape what kind of season we end up having because as you'll recall last season we were doing okay. And then we sold our best player to a team in Qatar, a Ubisoft. And then we plummeted down the ranks and barely survived at the end of the season, staying up with only one game to go.
I would like to not repeat that experience because getting relegated from the fourth tier of English football is I think it's safe to say an unmitigated catastrophe. It would be very difficult to get back up. We would be in big long term like existential trouble. We don't want it.
This year we have two players who there's just no getting around the fact that they are very good and they are part of the reason we are very good. One is Jack Curry who's been with us since he was 10 years old or left back. And the other of course is our Iraqi scoucer, our liver puddly and Iraqi, the great Ali al Hamadi who just keeps scoring. We just played Ramsgate in the FA Cup, the knockout competition.
We won five nil Ali al Hamadi scored two goals. He could have scored more. They brought him off when he was about to get a hat trick and he was clearly annoyed by that. He scored two goals against Nats County, one of the best teams in league two who we beat four to two last week.
He is probably the best striker in league two and he plays for us. And that's a big part of the reason why we're pretty good. Holding on to those two players in the January transfer window, I think we'll have a lot to do with how the second half of our season goes. But we're into the third round of the FA Cup, which is when all the big teams come in.
That's when you can play Manchester United or Liverpool. We got about the worst possible draw that we could have gotten in my opinion. We drew Ipswich, which is like it's going to be hard to win, but also nobody cares about him. Totally.
They're like, they're going to go to the Premier League next year. They're one of the best teams in the championship. They're way better than we are, but who cares? They're called the tractor boys.
The what? I know. So like, it's hard to get excited about like vroom vroom chugga chugga. Yeah.
Let's take down those tractor boys. Yeah. Well, here, maybe you'll win and then you'll get the. I tell you what, if we want, it would be amazing, but it's also like it's not going to be on TV and you make like a hundred thousand extra dollars if you're on TV.
We were on TV against, we were on TV against Ramsgate. It was great. I got to watch AFC Wimbledon in stunning high definition on my fancy TV. That was really fun.
But yeah, this, this is not going to be put on TV. Who wants to see Ipswich and AFC Wimbledon on TV? Me? Like nobody else.
Yeah. So yeah, so we've got, we've got that coming up and we've got the January transfer window, which I think is just going to tell us a lot. Hank, there's part of me that just wants to like, I mean, Nerf Viteri is so good at fundraising. I just, I have to, I have to resist the urge.
I know, I know, I know, I know. I've talked to Sarah about it as well. Not just you who's reminding me. Just telling you Nerf Viteri is really good at fundraising.
Now they're obviously best at fundraising for tuberculosis research and cancer, access to cancer treatment and stuff like that. But like, you know, fourth tier English soccer teams matter too. That's right, Sean. Just in a different way.
Just in a different way. Just in a different way, specifically in a way that we can't raise money for. It wouldn't be right here. Specifically in a way that is less.
Yeah. The primary in terms of magnitude. Yeah. Difference.
Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. Well, Hank, thank you for popping with me.
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