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EPISODE · Jul 11, 2025 · 38 MIN

380: Why Most Investors Make Less When They Scale (And How To Fix It)

from The DealMachine Real Estate Investing Podcast · host Leon Barnes, David Lecko

Why do so many investors lose money when they scale? Leon Barnes from Collective Genius breaks it down with David — from leadership gaps to broken systems to chasing $10M without a real plan. Learn the exact mindset shifts and operational fixes that top-tier investors use to scale without burning out or going broke. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:43 - Leon Barnes’ Time In College Working On His Diction3:57 - Going From Selling Ads In The Yellow Pages To Real Estate13:20 - His Early Days In Collective Genius15:48 - What He Learned From CG As A COO For A Real Estate Business20:36 - It’s Hard To Believe Some Things Until You See Them22:19 - Hearing The Blueprints At CG24:12 - Why Scaling A Real Estate Business Is So Hard28:24 - How Leon Knows When Someone Has The Right Scaling Mindset33:50 - The Evolution Of Collective Genius38:42 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Leon Barneshttps://www.instagram.com/leongbarnes/ Website: Collective Geniushttps://www.thecollectivegenius.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Leon Barnes explains why most real estate investors lose profit when they scale—and what the best in the business do differently.

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