#40: A look back at the hard, the human and the unexpected of 2025 with Jo Dobson and Rick Watson

This episode is a little different.Jo and I sat down on the couch at the end of a massive year - no script, no structure, just two humans reflecting on what 2025 actually felt like.What unfolded was honest, imperfect and surprisingly satisfying.Together we explore:The truth of hitting an end-of-year energy wallWhy we skipped recording earlier this week and chose connection over contentThe “real” version of burnout- the kind that comes from misalignment, not overworkWhat our podcasts, groups and therapy training taught us about storytelling and connectionThe quiet gifts this year gave us: imperfection, belonging and resonanceThe moments, people and conversations that touched us in unexpected waysWhat we’re dreaming into for next year and what we’re learning to let beIf you’re craving a slower, more spacious take on end-of-year reflection, one that isn’t all highlight reels and forced positivity, this might be the episode you listen to on a walk or with a cup of tea.It’s a conversation about being human… thanks for coming along for the ride.