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429: The Mouse Layer

from Dear Hank & John

Why don’t ants drown when it rains? Why is my car covered in bees? How do I balance a profession I love with wanting to have a life outside of work? Why is it easy to put my feet in water, but it’s uncomfortable to get my shoulders in water? How do I help my child navigate questions and fears about religion? Is the “membership rate” in A Beautifully Foolish Endeavor based on a valid economic theory or is it just a plot device? I accidentally walked into my neighbor’s dorm, do I have to go back and apologize even though I’m dying of embarrassment? …Hank and John Green have answers! If you're in need of dubious advice, email us at [email protected]. Join us for monthly livestreams at patreon.com/dearhankandjohn.

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Or as I prefer to think of a Dear John and Hank. It's a podcast where two brothers answer your questions, give you to be advice and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon John. Will you call five ants that move into an apartment with another five ants? Ten ants?

Ten ants? Ten ants? Ten ants? Ten ants?

They are tenants in the apartment. I love it. It's a great joke. How are you doing?

I slept for so long. I've been having a hard time sleeping for over a month. I finally, this weekend, I went to bed and I slept and I went to bed at like 10 and I woke up at like 9.30. Wow.

It sounds a little bit like maybe problematic. Yeah. I've set myself up for another problem. No, I was very tired.

Wow. I had a lot of fun at a conference over the weekend with Sarah and now I am also tired. But in general, I find myself to be tired. I'm 48 years old and impossible age.

I mean, I never imagined being alive at 48, but alone like that I would continue to grow and change. Oh, yeah. It's very strange to me. I thought of a bill to it as like a zombie apocalypse virus that you ran away from for as long as you could and then eventually it got you and you became a zombie.

You know, it's like the way, like you could sit on the subway and look at all the other people and be like, look at these sheep. It's like that with ages. It is like that with ages. You know, they're all people.

Your age are really like sort of rich and, you know, interpersonal dealings and lots of change happening among those people, but those folks up there, they're dead. They're done. They're just going through the motions. But boy, are we not?

Yeah, I just thought it was kind of like how you start out little and then you get big and then once you're big, you're done, right? Like you're the same size for the right. You don't need new shoes all the time the way I did when I was a kid and I figured that was also going to be the case with my brain. But actually my brain has continued to grow and change and even at the age of 48, which is the oldest I've ever been and feels like the oldest that a human being can be even though I understand intellectually that people get older.

I find that I'm still growing. We went to see Jonathan Richmond this weekend, who is a singer-songwriter. He's like 74 and I can tell he's still doing music different. His newest album is still very Jonathan Richmond, but different from his previous work.

And also like he's just on tour. He's doing the stuff. He's doing little kicks and dances on the stage. That's great.

That's great. I love a little kick on stage. I had the where I thought like this man appears to have grown into becoming 74. Like he was meant to be 74.

I always like I feel that way about old people all the time where I'm like, no, you were supposed to be like this. Like this version of your wise self. And of course, they don't feel that way. They're like the same person that I was in some ways when I was 30.

And also this stupid body is breaking and I hate it. But I just try and imagine more, I don't know if this is valuable. But I try to imagine more how people see me than how I see myself. I don't think that is valuable.

I think you've got to go the other way. I mean, people see me and they're like, oh my God, that's so distracting his age. I think that's not what they're seeing. There's always old people.

And they're always, they got their sort of like the vibe. No, what they're thinking is good for him. He's still getting around. No.

No, he's wise. He's bringing all the knowledge of his years. The other thing is that I thought I would get less ambitious as I got older. I thought you would too, to be fair.

I have. No, no, no, and I think I have. But also that's still a change. And that also still changes stuff.

I'm not convinced you've become less ambitious. I am differently ambitious. Okay. Let's answer some questions from our listeners beginning with this one from Aaron who writes, Dear John and Hank, I saw a post that asked why don't I have to drown when it rains and it made me smile because I used to wonder that as a kid.

But now I'm an adult. This is on the topic of growing Hank. Yes. I'm an adult.

And I never were in the answer. What happened? What happens to ant colonies during a storm? It's also on the topic of 10 ants.

You see what I did. You see how I've done this. You see how I've curated this experience for you. I did that.

What happens to ant colonies during a storm? I looked at the questions and I got a relevant dad joke. Aaron. A number of different things going to occur to the ants.

Yeah. Would you like to know about some of them? Yeah, I'd like to know about like six of them. I mean, I would assume they can just kind of drink their way out of it, you know?

Yeah, they did. I would be similar to a person drinking their way out of drowning, which is not a thing that you could see happening. But interestingly, and I was surprised by this, most ant nests go down to the end of the day. I was just drinking their way out of drowning, which is not a thing that you could see happening.

But interestingly, and I was surprised by this, most ant nests go down below the level that the soil gets saturated. Oh, so they just go down to their little nests and they hang out down there. Now, in situations where the soil gets saturated all the way down, you start to see a number of different behaviors occurring, including them fleeing into higher ground, including into your home. So this is something that happens during floods is ants will come in and invade the houses, which they can do because they're pretty small and houses have little holes.

I hate that houses have little holes. Every time I see something from outside inside, I'm like, I gave you all of outside. I gave you everything except for three thousand square feet belongs to you. And yet still you insist upon inside.

Well, the thing is that it's really nice inside. It's not though. It's much more dangerous because there's a 100% chance I'm going to kill you, whereas outside there's a zero. I don't know.

Well, they're not thinking is what I'm saying. They're not thinking it through these ants. They've got a better chance trying to ride out the water than coming into my house. The thing about ants is I'm like, I get that, but sometimes there's a mouse and I'm like, that's a pretty big hole.

Whenever there's a mouse in my house, which is not infrequently, I remember the first time we had a mouse, it was when we were living in New York City and we had an exterminator come out and the exterminator was like, I don't want to do an offensive New York accent. I apologize, this is offensive. It's just me trying to say what he literally said. He said, what are you going to do?

You live in Manhattan. And I was like, in your case, John, you were it was that specific man. So you're telling me that you make a living by coming out to apartments in Manhattan and telling people what are you going to do? You live in Manhattan.

That's your job. Well, what did he do? You're like, what am I going to do? I'm going to call you.

Exactly. I thought I took the action. I did what I was going to do. And now what are you going to do?

It was like you're never going to get rid of the mice in this apartment because there's construction next door and that shakes up all the mice and I was like, okay, well, it's trapped for me or something. That's a great visualization of the layers of New York City and there's like the subway and there's the electricity. And just below the street, there's the layer of mice. There's the mice layer and when the mice get shaken up, they come into the homes.

Yeah, it's great. It protects you from earthquakes. I do greatly dislike a mouse in the house. I completely overreacted.

The other day there was a mouse in the garage and I screamed like a little girl and ran away from it crying. Yeah. And you know, Sarah was like, you're 48. And I was like, I don't feel 48 in my heart, Sarah, in my heart.

I'm a four-year-old. One time I found in our bed a little cache and I thought that it was giant poop. I thought it was like a big rat poops, but it turns out it was little seeds that the mice had been storing in the guest bed. Oh my God.

But I sleep in your guest bed. We've cleaned it since. Why did you mention that to me? We could have just not mentioned that.

We replaced the whole bed. Okay, I'm going to believe you even though it sounds like a lie. Okay, this next question. Well, did we answer it?

Yeah, we answered that. Okay, this next question comes from M who asks, Dear Hank and John, why is my car covered in bees? That was awesome. I just returned to my car to leave the nature park that I'm visiting to.

And there were at least 15 bees on... M, I was told that your car was covered in bees. Yeah, there's 15 bees. That's not a coverage.

There's 15 bees on it? I was imagining a sort of bee layer to the car, that there was the car and then there was bees on top of it. Yeah, that you're going to have to be like that lady on Instagram who scoops them. This is disappointing, I have to say.

So let me reread it. Dear Hank and John, why does my car have 15 bees on it? Yeah. Is this related to my car being covered in large ants when I first got up this morning?

By which I assume you mean it had five ants on it? Ten ants. Ten ants. Ten ants.

Confused and concerned. Yeah. Yeah, you got to stop coating your car in honey, you fool. Your car's got some tenants.

You've got some tenants. I think the warmth might be something. Certainly at the nature park, you drove there, your car got warm, maybe the bees need to warm up. Also, there's the possibility that your car is like a color that bees like, that they think that they're getting pollen out of it.

Like if it's a beautiful turquoise. So bees and ants both like candy? Yeah. So maybe there's candy in there?

Did you put a bunch of candy in your engine? Yeah, any more there's originals in there? I like those. Yeah, some of them.

I'm like a grandma. That's another way I know I'm old, Hank, because I'm starting to enjoy a hard candy. I like hard candies now too. Why don't we get sponsored by the hard candy people?

Why is Werther's original not reached out to us? I don't know. Maybe that's how we're going to sustain the podcast over the next, because we have to do it for at least what, is it 12 more years? Because we have to do it for 14 more years, because we have to do it for two years until it's called Dear John and Hank, and then we have to do it for as many years as we've done it as Dear John and Hank in order to even things out.

Gotcha. So we got 14 years in front of us. By the time that's over, I'll be 62 in 14 years. Yeah, and you'll be sucking those Werthers down.

Oh, you'll be sucking, you'll be sucking, you'll be swallowing them whole. Like there's no tomorrow, which indeed there might not be. Certainly. What may or may not know is that the little goblins that make the cargo love Werthers originals.

Really? And it's all our taffy. They're always in there, crinkle crinkle crinkle. That's what that noise is.

Oh, okay. We're on a wrap in the candies. No, I didn't know that. That's interesting.

So that might be it. That could be it as well. I think that this is maybe how we keep it going Hank. We just need to sort of shift sponsors as we age, get more of that hard candy sponsorship, more of that like get the AARP behind us.

Well, from what I can tell of the behavior of the AARP, I count already. I think I may have done a brand deal with the AARP already. I don't remember what it was, but I feel like I have been paid by them for something. Get some of that pharmaceutical company ad money.

Oh, yeah. We can start reading the about SkyRizzi. Oh, my God. That comes with the risk of tuberculosis.

Like most of those, those ones. Yeah. I took one of those that gives you the TV risk. They got to make sure that you don't have the TV before you start on it.

Yeah. All right. I think we answered the question about M situation. Yeah.

I can't wait to sell some people some mabs. So what do you do? I host a podcast sponsored by SkyRizzi. What is the SkyRizzi is my favorite one because it's got the most ludicrous, uh, uh, actual name.

So SkyRizzi is the brand name. Yeah. What's the actual name is Riskant. Sorry.

I got to come on my blush. She's talking my nose a little bit. Riskant, Kizzumab, Dash, Rizzat. Rizzat.

Enzine, Rizzat. Like the Rizzat? The great rapper from the Wu-Tang Clan? Yeah.

He is actually their main sponsor. I mean, that'd be a great job for Rizzat. Riskant, Kizzumab, Rizzat, SkyRizzi. All right.

This question comes from Hannah who writes, Dear John, I've been a fan of the pods since I was a freshman in college and I'm now in my fifth year of teaching. Hannah, we already feel old. You're making it worse. I'm a high school band director and I love teaching so much.

The kids are awesome. There's something so special about getting to young people how to create music. The only downside is that I wear crazy hours with rehearsals after school football games, competitions. How about a Deanna profession I love when I don't feel like I have any time for friends, family or myself, much love, and so everything.

You all do. Hannah, this is such a problem for me, Hank. Like how do you balance having work you love? I mean, it's obviously a privileged problem, right?

And I'm grateful that I have the problem. But how do you balance having work you love with wanting to have a life outside of work? And the answer to that that Hank and I have found, Hannah, is that you don't. I mean, like twice a month, maybe.

And just do everything too much all of the time. But my friends who are classroom teachers, like I have a good friend who's a classroom teacher who is telling me that because he also coaches his son's middle school soccer team and he does clubs after school. So he gets to school at 6.30. He leaves school at 4.30 to coach his kid's soccer team and he gets home at 7.

And then he wants to work out because he's a big worker, outer guy. He's not done working out until 8.15. And that's when he eats dinner and like sees the kids and everything. And that's really, really hard.

Yeah. I, of course, was in band. And until this moment, had not thought about how like my band director was at it all of the the time. Like all summer long, too?

Like it was summer. There was summer band camp happening. They were doing that. So like the first thing is you're not doing this wrong.

Like, is this, does not, I think I can kind of feel like it's like I must be doing something wrong because I'm supposed to be doing this. That's my job. And then you're also supposed to do this other thing, which is like have a life. Right.

But like the problem is that we decided to long ago as a society that the teacher's job is to do 5 jobs. Right. And like the band teacher's job is to do 8 extra jobs. Right.

There's something wrong with the system. But at least it's really well compensated work. You got to do all 12 of the jobs for half a job's money. Yeah.

It's a good deal. But I don't think you're doing anything wrong. I do think that it's a huge sacrifice though, especially for a young person to try to make that sacrifice when you're forming your core relationships and figuring out how all that stuff's going to work and who's going to be your partners in all of life and so on. Like it's really asking a lot.

And the value of that sacrifice is, you know, real. You're providing a lot of value for these kids. And you know, that that will be important for a lot of people for a long time. So that's why that's so hard to balance.

But we think you have come to the wrong place in your search for balance. Yes. This next question comes from story who writes to your John and take my name is Story and I'm a live. We spent a lot of time in the pool this summer.

Why is it easy for me to put my feet in the water? But it is uncomfortable to get my belly button and shoulders in the water story. Hank, I have no idea why this is. It is true though that you can put your feet in the water and you're like, that's fine.

Yeah. So I think that it's probably, I didn't look this up, but I think it's probably just literally the temperature differential between those body parts. So you're talking about your shoulders. Yeah.

That really went uncomfortable with the armpits, which is a warm spot. So you don't feel temperature. You feel temperature difference. So my hands are kind of cold right now because it's cold outside.

It's cold in my office. And if I put them in, you know, somewhat cold water, it would feel less cold than if my hands were warm right now. So you have the feet, the extremities, they're used to being kind of cold. They're just hanging out in space.

And so they're probably going to have a lower temperature generally, but then like the armpits, the belly button, like that's just used to be in a warm also areas that have lots of nerves. So there's different parts of your body that can feel more. There's just more nerves. But I guess when I'm thinking about that, like the hands and feet have plenty of nerves.

Yeah, I think it must be the temperature differential primarily. That's really, I never thought of that before that my feet are so far away from my, my heart and so on that they're just not as warm. Yeah. And of course the podcast is brought to you by Würthers Originals, we are available.

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I thought it was a good question, and it's about our mutual journeys of meaning. And you know how I like to get into that stuff, Hank. I do. Dear John and Hank, my husband and I, we're both very devoted Christians for many years before we met in the early years of our marriage, but over time we went through several perspectives shifts and decided not to raise our children with any particular religion.

Our older child is seven and asking a lot of questions about Jesus and God recently, a friend told him that if he doesn't believe in Jesus, he'll go to hell. And that has left him worried, not only for himself, but also for us because we don't believe. At the same time, he expressed genuine interest in wanting to learn more about Jesus, and we started telling him some of the stories. We tried to explain there are many religions in the world, when that's their own journey of meaning, but he's still anxious.

How do we help him navigate these questions and fears with kindness and clarity? Thanks, confused with caring parent. John, I feel like you gotta take, you're the one, I got nothing, I got no idea what to do with this as is. And luckily, luckily I've not had to deal with it yet.

Orrin seems pretty satisfied with the naturalistic explanations for things. The Hank Green, you die, and you go back to where you were before you were born, theory. That is often how we talk about stories. We talk about how important stories are, but that doesn't mean that they're real.

Right, that's a good way to think about it. The first thing that I would say in this situation is I would say very clearly and unambiguously to your child, that you do not believe, and that indeed most people in the world do not believe that you go to an eternal hell if you don't believe in Jesus. Right, that's good. That's not one that I would have thought of.

Thank you. I would say that just to reassure them, because the reason they feel fearful is the idea of spending eternity with your skin burning is a scary thought. And I would argue one that shouldn't be used to bludgeon children into belief systems. I would actually feel like children shouldn't know about that at all.

Sure, in a perfect world, I agree with you. But different strokes, I guess. Different strokes, look, if I believed, and this is sincere, if I believed that, if you did have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, you were gonna go to hell, and you were gonna spend eternity there. If I believed that, that would be the most important thing for me to convince people of the world, right?

Because this life means nothing in the face of eternity. This is barely a blip in time in the face of eternity, right? Like we're talking about 100 years out of hundreds of trillions, or, you know, so of course I would wanna convince people of that. The problem is, I go back to what Rebecca Ollad-Waya said, the great Sufi saint from Bazaar in what is now a wrap, where she was seen holding a torch in one hand and a bucket of water in the other, and she was asked what she was doing, and she said I'm gonna put this torch to the gates of heaven and burn them down, and I'm gonna pour this water on the gates of hell and quench the fire so that people will not love God for want of heaven or fear of hell, but because God is God.

And if you can't love God, because God is God, if you can't find that within you, then your theology is just so misaligned with mine that it's hard to even talk about it, but that's the first thing I would say, and then I would tell them the stories. I would tell them from the perspective of listen, like your parents don't believe this stuff, but lots of people do, and your parents have been wrong before, and there's no pressure on you either way. But I think if you come at it from a non-judgmental inclusive perspective, rather than from like a judgmental exclusive one, group one does this, group two does that kind of exclusivity, you stand a much better chance to raising your kids without that sort of religious trauma that it sounds like maybe a non-grew up with, and I think that is a lot of what makes people shy away from their journeys of meaning, is that feeling that there was something fundamentally corrupt about the way that they were told to explore meaning in the world. From the non-believer side of things, I don't know, I'd be interested to hear how you think about this, John, but the way I think about God is as a technology, like as a unifier, like a religion is a way that people have found to extend our circles of empathy outward into a larger group than to start a close family, and sort of understanding the bits of it as, like, does this exist because it helps the religion dominate, or does this exist because it helps the people who are a part of it?

And I know that this is probably not great for a seven-year-old, but I do not shy away from the importance of stories. Stories are real, even if they are not facts. So we talk about the stories that Christians believe in our household, as an important part of this culture. Like you're gonna be aware of the story of baby Jesus, you're gonna know what the resurrection is, you're gonna know what the Christians are.

And we also talk with our kids about other faith traditions and the stories and those faith traditions, and how we can find meaning in those stories, and direction in them, and orientation in them, regardless of whether we take them as scripture. Sure. I agree with you basically. It's a hard thing, though, when your kid is that scared.

Like I get what that would be hard. Well, yeah, it's frustrating. It's not okay. It's not okay to tell a seven-year-old that they're gonna go to hell, period.

That's the end of my sentence. All right, John, this next next question is for me. It says, dear, Jank and Han. I'm currently reading a beautifully-foolish endeavor, in which Andy is asked to pay a membership rate based on his net worth.

If he has a net worth under the national average, he's paid $50,000 a year, but if he has a net worth over the national average, he must pay a dollar for every $100 above the national average. Where this idea originated, is it based off of any valid economic theories versus just a plot device? What are valid economic theories? Exactly.

Are there any rules? Are there any laws? Is Hank Green's theory of change? I did have something similar happen to you.

Have you ever had something similar happen? I don't think so. All right, so I was given this award. This is a great story.

I have to tell it delicately, because I don't wanna reveal the institution involved. I was given an award. I was at a conference and I was taken into a special room and they said, listen, we've given you a very special award. And I said, thank you so much.

I really appreciate it. And they said, yeah, the benefits of the award last for five years. And I said, that's really wonderful. I mean, what had been come true?

And then they said, it's $5,000 a year to pay for the award. And I was like, to me or from me? And they were like, from you. And I was like, well, this is the worst award I've ever received.

I've received awards that came with a financial compensation. I've received awards that didn't come with financial compensation. And was I little heard about the awards that didn't come with financial compensation? Sure.

But never have I received an award that came with me having to pay you for the privilege of the award. And they were like, well, it's only $500 a year if you're an artist. Do you consider yourself an artist? And I was like, yes.

Secondly. Second, that's still a lot. Just because you've reduced the price of $500. Just because you've reduced the price by 90% and a 30 second negotiation doesn't mean that I'm willing to pay.

It sounds like some Scientology situation, John. It was awkward, man. It was really weird. I did eventually, as politely as I could manage, turned down the award.

Interesting. What were the benefits of the award, like a special credit card? What's happened? Yeah, it was called Entrance Into the Delta One Lounge.

Yeah. The people at the ticket counter cover to you is you're sitting at the gate and they're like, Mr. Green, we have amazing news for you. I actually do feel that way every time I go to the Delta One Lounge.

I'm like, I am your most loyal customer. And you're telling me that I have to pay for the privilege of going here. This is bananas. Yeah, well, otherwise it fills up, John.

There's a lot of most loyal customers, it turns out. I guess there are. I guess there are. There are also many things in economics where people who have less pay less.

And I like this. I think that it is. So there's everything from progressive taxation to like coupon cutting, like coupons exist, so that the people who need to pay less will take the time to cut the coupons, for whom it doesn't matter that much, will pay the full price. That isn't so much a thing anymore as it once was.

But there's lots of things like this. And there's also like this idea of pricing people differently based on who they are, which people hate understandably. But sometimes I feel like when I get like a sandwich at McDonald's, I'm like, I should have paid more than this. Because what I'm paying for right now is my time.

And like people like me, I always brag about how much their time's worth. So right. And I pay more because I got more value out of this. Because my time's worth more.

You should be charging me $50 for a sandwich. I certainly think you should pay more for public goods, like roads, right? Because you benefit more from them. Because you sell goods that are transported over those roads.

And you should pay more for schools. Because you benefit more when a population is well educated. And so on. I definitely think that.

I'm not as convinced by that pricing model. And then I'm convinced by it for things like speeding tickets, which some people do. So that it is meaningfully painful to you to speed in the way that it ought to be. And if you're a very wealthy $50 ticket might not matter that much to you.

But what if it wasn't a $50 ticket? What if it was a $500 ticket? Maybe then it would matter. I'm less convinced of it when it comes to refrigerators.

But maybe that's a personal bias. Because of course, I would be the one who would pay for the more expensive refrigerators. But also, it wouldn't just be that. There's all kinds of ways.

It's not just how much money you have. It's how price sensitive you are, which can happen for all kinds of different reasons. That's true. That's true.

That's more about how can we make the most profit, rather than how can we make this a fair transaction, which is what it's always going to be tilted toward. That's when I'm not interested in it. We got this question from Annabelle. And then I think we need to answer before we get to the on board news from Mars and Nancy Wollong.

Annabelle writes, you're John and Nick. I'm writing to you in the heat of the most greatest embarrassment. My fingers shake as I type. I live in a dorm room.

I went to the bathroom down the hall. On the way back, I got distracted and walked straight into my neighbor's dorm. I do not know my neighbor. He is a big, scary athlete of some ball sport.

I closed the door immediately and ran away. I did not see him. And I don't know if he saw me. Do I have to go back and apologize?

I will probably cry of embarrassment if I do to knock or knock Annabelle. I mean, Annabelle, I've got several worst stories that are in this exact genre from my personal life. I've got one that's worse than all of yours. And I can't tell.

You know what it is. I have a friend who, my roommate freshman in college, was a naked because he was that drunk. And then that man came home and got into his bed and there was a naked man in there. Well, that is bad.

It's not quite as bad as bleeping in bleeps dorm room because I was bleep to the bleep. My other roommate, the second semester of freshman year, I once got into my bed and it was covered in dirt because he had fallen asleep in the quad in the dirt and then he had gone to the bathroom, puked, flushed his glasses down the toilet and then fallen asleep in my bed. Anyway, Annabelle, it sounds like what you've done is actually quite minor. And I don't think you do need to apologize for it because I think the big scary athlete knew exactly what happened and was like, oh, that's all right.

That's not a big deal. At least nobody bleeped in the bleep. Yeah. Boy, I made some bad choices in college.

What I will say is that all three of these situations do seem to have a common element. Except for Annabelle's. Annabelle seems like an issue of carelessness. My first roommate and my second roommate.

Mine definitely involved a measure of binge drinking. As it did when I, one time a friend of mine came up to me and said, are you peeing on the church? And I looked down and I was. I was peeing on the church.

I'm worried that people are going to think you bleeping in the bleep is worse than it is. So just for clarity, it's not worse than you than it is. I mean, it's pretty bad. How could it have been worse?

Well, you didn't like injure anybody. Oh, it wasn't the person involved. Nobody was hurt. Nobody was hurt.

Nobody was hurt. No person got bleeped on. There was no pooping and no person got hurt. How's that?

OK, good. Yes. Everything turned out OK in the end. Jaffa's in embarrassing conversations.

It's pretty bad, John. I know it's not my best word. I didn't do that. I didn't really, I mean, I've still ever puked from alcohol.

And probably won't in my life now because I don't drink alcohol anymore. I wish I could say that, Hank. I wish I could say that. I wish I could say that I'd never puked from drinking alcohol.

I got a real close once on our anniversary party night because I drank all the pitchers. There was like a little left in all of the pitchers at the bowling alley and I just did them all at once. Oh, all right. Let's move on to the news from Martin, England, because I have to go to a volleyball game.

All right. Here's the news from AFC Wimbledon. AFC Wimbledon can not stop winning football games, Hank. It is a miracle.

It is the miracle on the Thames. AFC Wimbledon somehow have now won four consecutive games in League One. AFC Wimbledon, Hank, with the lowest budget in League One, are in fifth, fifth place. We're in the playoffs right now.

Now, admittedly, there's a lot of season to go and will not be in the playoffs when all of a sudden don barring some kind of absurd miracle. But I just at this point, I don't know what to believe. We played 11 games. We have 21 points.

We're three points off of second. Wow, three points off of second is wild. Can I rain a little on your parade? Please.

Number one, this most recent win against Blackpool, which seems to be the worst team. And they're having some real problems. They did fire their manager immediately after we beat them. Second, is it OK to talk about doing your guys just go down for gambling?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we can talk about that. How's that? Is that OK?

Is he a good one? No, well, I mean, he seems like a nice kid, but he's very young. And he hasn't played much, so we're good. OK.

I just saw that. Google knows me now. And it's like, you need all the AFC Wimbledon news. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I haven't even seen that. But now he'll be all right in the end. He'll learn his lesson. Well, this week in Mars News, Perseverance Rover has taken a picture of what may be the most important comment of our lifetimes.

Whoa. So at least comment? Do you overwhelmingly the most important comment of our lifetimes? No, it turns out.

Three Eye Atlas is a interstellar comet, not from round here. Yeah. It seems to be quite weird. There's a bunch of unanswered questions about it right now.

But that's mostly due to lack of data, rather than it being extremely mysterious. Those certain people who think everything can be explained by aliens think that that's not the case. And in fact, we have plenty of data to say that's an alien, which it's not. But three Eye Atlas is weird, and we are trying to suss out.

So basically, comet's really interesting, if you're me. Comet's change direction based on how they further stuff off. So they have these tails. And that tail is pointed toward the sun, because the sun is boiling stuff off of its surface.

That condensed when it was far away in the cold, cold inner-style space, or just distant solar system. And as that stuff like oblates off the side of the comet, it pushes the comet in the other direction. Three Eye Atlas has a big cloud around it. Like the sun is ablating the stuff, but it's not changing speed or direction very much.

There's a few different things that could explain this. I don't really understand them. But that's strange. And it's not behaving the way a comet from our solar system would act, which is making people very curious about it.

But that comet is going between us and the sun, so we will not be able to see it for a long time until a few months from now, when we will be more aligned to be able to see it again. But during that time, it turns out perseverance can see it. So we can continue to track it and look at it. Isn't that nice?

Good job, perseverance. What a weird little comet, probably not a little comet. Better than you. Interestingly, and slightly less good news, the press releases that came out would normally come out about this didn't seem to really come out because the government shut down.

So I'm saying all this with a little bit of a grain of salt. I think all of this is true, but the information from NASA is not coming out the way they normally would. Good time. Good time.

Hey, I got to go to this volleyball game. So thank you for plotting with me. Send us your questions at Hank and John at gmail.com. This podcast is edited by Ben Swartout.

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