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#468: Everybody's Doing It", Not A Legal Standard Of Care With Hermine Hayes-Klein, ESQ.

from Birthing Instincts · host Dr. Stuart Fischbein + Midwife Blyss Young

What happens when hospitals decide informed consent no longer applies to breech birth?In this powerful and deeply important episode, Blyss and Stu welcome back attorney and birth rights advocate Hermine Hayes-Klein to unpack a landmark Oregon malpractice trial centered on coercion, informed consent, and the growing normalization of mandatory cesarean sections for breech babies.This is not just a conversation about breech birth. It’s a conversation about power, coercion, medical culture, and whether women still have the right to make informed decisions about their own bodies during childbirth.If you care about birth autonomy, informed consent, or preserving disappearing birth skills, this is an episode you cannot miss.About Hermine Hayes-Klein:Hermine Hayes-Klein, JD is an attorney and advocate for reproductive justice and human rights in pregnancy and childbirth. Hermine works on legal actions and advocacy projects related to preventable injury and informed consent violations in childbirth, and advocacy for access to midwives and doulas around the US and beyond. Hermine began her international advocacy for the recognition of human rights in childbirth when she was teaching law at The Hague University in The Hague, the Netherlands, in 2012, and organized 6 international conferences on that topic in the US, Europe, South Africa, and India. She has worked on many cases related to breech birth for both plaintiffs and defendants.Website: https://fringeheals.com/Instagram: @fringehealsBlog: https://fringeheals.com/blogs/blog/tagged/womens-health.Email: [email protected] References:Realfoodology Podcast - Why So Many Women End Up With C-Sections: Birth Interventions Explained with Dr. Stuart Fischbeinhttps://open.spotify.com/episode/3HChoFaUvAmmHsGMoCRvCp?si=LHN-gYRgS_OgE6f24W2qHACHD.TV segment with Stu NEEDEDMentorship with Blyss:  wovenmoon.comElena Bridgers Substack: To Home Birth or Not to Home Birth?https://elenabridgers.substack.com/p/to-home-birth-or-not-to-home-birth?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=l982rDr. Sara Wickham Instagram Post @drsarawickhamhttps://www.instagram.com/p/DYPHRC0DPqg/?igsh=NmZwMHNpNGxiY2VxDiscussed in This EpisodeThe dangerous misuse of the phrase “standard of care”Why informed consent is a legal duty, not a physician preferenceHow hospital policies quietly override individualized careThe lasting trauma many women experience during cesareans and epiduralsThe legacy and flaws of the infamous Term Breech TrialWhy bodily autonomy in childbirth matters now more than everPodcast Produced by: Raquel Hernandez, Pride and Joy Doula Care This show is supported byLMNT | Got to drinklmnt.com/birthinginstincts to get a free sample pack with any orderChristian Hypnobirthing | Go to christianhypnobirthing.com and use the code BI50 for 50% off the first three months of your monthly subscription.Restorative Roots | Go to restorativeroots.com and use code BIRTHINGINSTINCTS to get $20 offGirls Who Know | Go to girlswhoknow.com and use  code INSTINCTS for 15% offCaraway Home | Go to Carawayhome.com/instincts for an additional 10% off, or use code INSTINCTS at checkout!Connect with Dr. Stu and BlyssJoin our Patreon! patreon.com/birthinginstinctspodcastInstagram: @birthinginstincts/@wovenmoon_Website: birthinginstincts.com/birthingblyss.comEmail: [email protected] webpage: birthinginstinctspodcast.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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