EPISODE · Jan 25, 2026 · 1H 27M
58. Michael Jackson’s Choreographer Travis Payne: Dangerous, HIStory, Ghosts & This Is It
from club 30's with mjfangirl- a Michael Jackson Fan Podcast · host mjfangirl
For nearly 20 years, choreographer and creative partner Travis Payne worked alongside Michael Jackson-- from the Dangerous era and HIStory Tour, to Ghosts, Scream, and This Is It.In this episode of Club 30s with mjfangirl, I’m joined by Randall (therocfiles / rocsmocs.com ) for a deep-dive conversation with Travis about the creativity, collaboration, and precision behind some of Michael’s most ambitious work. Travis shares what it was really like collaborating with Michael on set and on tour, how Ghosts evolved through multiple versions, and what fans never saw behind the scenes while building massive productions around the world. We also discuss Michael’s rehearsals, global and street-dance influences (including the Bankhead Bounce), and the reality of bringing MJ’s vision to life.Follow Travis Payne:Website: travispayne.comInstagram: @travispayne1Listen to Club 30s with MJFANGIRL:Spotify / Apple Podcasts / Amazon MusicJoin the community (Club 30’s / Patreon):patreon.com/mjfangirlConnect with mjfangirl:Business inquiries: [email protected]: @mjfangirlblogCHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS00:00:00 - Intro: MJfangirl + Randall welcome Travis Payne (Michael Jackson creative partner)00:01:01 - Travis Payne credits: Michael Jackson (Dangerous, HIStory, Ghosts, Scream, This Is It)00:02:57 - Travis Payne origin story: Atlanta dance training00:04:03 - Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation Tour00:09:48 - Travis Payne on mentoring young dancers00:14:37 - Travis Payne’s inspirations (Bob Fosse, Alvin Ailey, Debbie Allen + more)00:15:34 - Michael Jackson influence on showmanship00:18:31 - First time working with Michael Jackson00:20:44 - Joining Michael Jackson’s Dangerous Tour00:26:50 - “Dangerous” performance: film references + building MJ’s live cinematic world00:28:37 - Michael Jackson “Dangerous” at Soul Train Awards: why it was full-circle00:32:33 - Michael Jackson rehearsal standard00:33:15 - Bankhead Bounce in “Dangerous”: hip-hop dance + Atlanta culture in MJ choreography00:38:01 - Divine Nine stepping + “Global Dance”00:40:26 - Michael Jackson “Ghosts” era: creative process + early concepts00:41:45 - “Ghosts” filmmaking detail: the “dust” took days to perfect00:44:01 - Why “Ghosts” was ahead of its time (Thriller legacy + Stan Winston + tech)00:54:43 - HIStory Tour logistics: Kingdom Air planes + more01:02:21 - Michael Jackson “Scream” behind the scenes: MJ + Janet collaboration01:13:00 - MJ Immortal / ONE / Michael Jackson: The Experience
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58. Michael Jackson’s Choreographer Travis Payne: Dangerous, HIStory, Ghosts & This Is It
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