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EPISODE · Jul 21, 2025 · 25 MIN

5SOS’s Michael Clifford on Fatherhood, Fourth-Walling, and His New SIDEQUEST

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Michael Clifford is no stranger to arenas full of screaming fans as a member of 5 Seconds of Summer, but he’s now venturing into the uncharted territory of solo artistry with his debut album SIDEQUEST. The guitarist-turned-frontman caught up with Kyle Meredith to talk about how the record came to be, the joy and anxiety that came with doing it alone, and how becoming a father restructured his creative compass. Listen now.While SIDEQUEST is certainly a departure from 5SOS’s collective sound, Clifford doesn’t go full scorched earth. “My DNA is always going to be in there as this kid who grew up listening to emo,” he admits. But instead of banking on nostalgia, he chased something more elusive: the sensation of hearing something for the first time. “Watching my daughter discover things kind of unjaded me,” he says. “It made me want to inject that into my music.”That childlike unpredictability permeates SIDEQUEST, especially in songs like “Eclipse,” a chaotic but emotional finale that Clifford says is structured to mimic the rollercoaster of parenthood. “You don’t know the structure of the song,” he explains. He also breaks the fourth wall lyrically throughout the album, referencing his own fame and band history in ways that only he could: “Nobody else is gonna be able to say, ‘I’m the guy who caught fire with the colored hair in the band about underwear.’” No arguments there.Listen to Michael Clifford of 5 Seconds of Summer chat about all this and more. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp and use my code betterhelp.com for a great deal: https://www.betterhelp.com* Check out MyBookie and use my code KYLEM for a great deal: https://www.mybookie.agAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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