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EPISODE · Nov 5, 2025 · 14 MIN

67: Response to Dave Simon's 3 Metrics for Student Retention

from Rock School Proprietor Podcast · host John Kozicki

On this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) reacts to Dave Simon's podcast about the three P's of music lesson success—pleasure, practice, progress—and proposes a fourth P: purpose. He argues that understanding why a student is taking lessons changes how we weight practice and progress, and can improve retention. The episode explores how emphasizing practice without knowing a family’s goals can push students to quit, offers practical thinking for teachers, and points to resources for redefining what counts as practice and aligning lessons with student purpose. Additional suggested listening: Music Lessons & Marketing: The 3 Metrics Parents Use to Define Music Lesson Success | EP268 Ep. 29: Dave Simon | Revisiting the 'Practice Problem' Ep. 30: Inside Look at Why Parents Pull Kids from Music Lessons Ep. 4: What "Counts" as Practice? Redefining Practice in Music Lessons -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.   

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