PODCAST · music
Rock School Proprietor Podcast
by John Kozicki
Teaching you the secrets of running a successful rock band program, or just how to create an inspiring community centered on making music in your music lesson business. Host John Kozicki played in punk rock bands and went to school for business, while co-host Mandy York studied vocal performance and sang classical music. With vastly different background, these friends both run successful music lessons businesses and decided to record their conversations. From philosophy and culture to teaching and business strategy, each week John and Mandy turn their experiences into practical advice you can use to improve your music lesson business.
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100: Q&A Episode | When an Instructor Steals Your Students
On this Q&A episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York respond to a listener whose long‑time instructor left, opened a competing studio, and poached students. Now a competitor, this instructor also reused photos and reviews from the original school. They unpack what options the studio owner has, explain how copyright and DMCA takedowns can help with images, and discuss the realities and limits of enforcing non‑competes. In this episode: We celebrate 100 episodes of Rock School Proprietor podcast. The emotional impact of a former instructor poaching students and what legal recourse is possible in these situations. The steps studio owners can take in protecting intellectual property, including photos and website copy, where where reviews fit in. If non-compete agreements are enforceable in music lesson studios, and if it is in your best interest to pursue legal action if one is a non-compete contract is broken. How to handle conflicts with instructors or former instructors if they begin teaching independently outside of your studio. The hosts also cover boundary setting, trust breakdowns, practical steps to protect your business going forward, and when it’s worth pursuing legal action versus focusing on retaining and serving your own students. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. ------------------------------------------ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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99: Are Kids Too Busy for Music Lessons?
Kids are busier than ever with travel sports, marching band, theater and other time-intensive activities, and it’s directly impacting private music lessons. In this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) explore why these shifts are happening and share practical steps studio owners can take to retain student. In this episode: How kids' increasing activity load due to sports and other extracurriculars is impacting attendance and retention in private music lessons Strategies for studio owners to retain students amidst busy schedules, even when other activities demand more of their time The importance of empathy and relationship-building in student retention, even if a student needs to take time off from lessons Why the way that you communicate with clients in these situations can help or hurt your word of mouth marketing. This episode explores the increasing busyness of kids due to sports and extracurricular activities. The way in which private lesson instructors and studio owner handle these difficult situations can impact if they retain or lose students. Tune in for strategies to adapt and maintain relationships with students and parents when music lesson schedules compete with sports. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators looking to attract more students and create a sustainable business. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. Interested in the Building a Band Program webinar? We're planning a free live webinar to accompany the Building a Band Program series of episodes on Friday, July 24, 2026. John will go deeper on the topics and answer your questions directly. If you're interested, send an email to [email protected] with the subject line Webinar and we will be in touch with details. -------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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98: How to Run A Productive Band Class -- Part 5 of Band Program Series
This episode is part 5 of the Building a Band Program series on the Rock School Proprietor podcast, hosted by John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com). In this episode John shares how to plan, structure, and execute productive band rehearsals. From setting up expectations with students to creating a predictable routine that gets band members working together effectively, John share things to do as well as things to avoid. Included: The structure of an effective band rehearsal session Essential rules and expectations for students Techniques for mixing and listening skills development Chunking songs into sections for focused practice Communication strategies between coaches, students, and private instructors The importance of room maintenance and professionalism Setting and reinforcing rehearsal agendas Managing student behavior and engagement in rehearsals If you're interested in starting a band program in your music teaching studio or looking for ideas to enhance or grow an existing program, this series is for you! In it we will cover how a band program can create a strong community in your studio, increase profit margins, and lead to greater student retention. Interested in the Building a Band Program webinar? We're planning a free live webinar to accompany this series on Friday, July 24, 2026. John will go deeper on these topics and answer your questions directly. If you're interested, send an email to [email protected] with the subject line Webinar and we will be in touch with details. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. ------------------------------------------ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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97: How Listening Can Help Book More Students
On this episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) explores a compelling story about a 13-year-old music student facing challenges and discovering new ways to connect with music. They highlights the importance of personalized teaching, understanding student strengths, and the power of flexibility in music education. In this episode: How understanding the challenges and goals of students (and parents) can create a blueprint for personalized teaching Why parents don't always view musical progress as the main measure of success in music lessons, and how just acknowledging students' strengths and challenges may mean more to parents. The impact of learning differences on music education, and how to tailor lesson content to each individual student. If you goal is attracting more students for you lesson studio, understanding the unique goals of students and parents will help. This episode provides a unique perspective centered on getting to know your students before they even walk through the doors of your music lesson studio. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators looking to attract more students and create a sustainable business. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. Interested in the Building a Band Program webinar? We're planning a free live webinar to accompany the Building a Band Program series of episodes on Friday, July 24, 2026. John will go deeper on the topics and answer your questions directly. If you're interested, send an email to [email protected] with the subject line Webinar and we will be in touch with details. -------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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96: Choosing Songs for Bands -- Part 4 of Band Program Series
This episode is part 4 of the Building a Band Program series on the Rock School Proprietor podcast, hosted by John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com). In this episode John shares tips on how to select songs for band programs. He covers the importance of matching song difficulty to student ability, structuring songs predictably, and maintaining variety to keep students engaged and confident. Included: How to select songs for different band levels that will highlight their abilities and minimize areas of struggle. How song structure and predictability can play a major role in a band sounding great or mediocre. How to balance the level of challenge and confidence in student performances when choosing songs for groups. If you're interested in starting a band program in your music teaching studio or looking for ideas to enhance or grow an existing program, this series is for you! In it we will cover how a band program can create a strong community in your studio, increase profit margins, and lead to greater student retention. Interested in the Building a Band Program webinar? We're planning a free live webinar to accompany this series on Friday, July 24, 2026. John will go deeper on these topics and answer your questions directly. If you're interested, send an email to [email protected] with the subject line Webinar and we will be in touch with details. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. ------------------------------------------ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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95: Tony Parlapiano | Holistic Piano Teaching With popMATICS
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) interviews Tony Parlapiano, founder of popMATICS, about his innovative online piano curriculum that focuses on playing by ear, creativity, improvisation, and practical theory. Tony explains how he's built a strong online student community through popMATICS. He also discusses how storytelling and collecting 'musical souvenirs' deepens listening, and how he balances structure with freedom to help students play and create music every day. In this episode: How Tony's methods focus on teaching piano through creativity and personal connection rather than traditional method books. He emphasizes understanding music beyond just reading notes, fostering a community where students can explore music freely. How popMATICS uniquely blends curriculum and an online community that encourages students to learn by doing and sharing experiences. This approach helps students of all levels, from beginners to those with formal music education, to connect with music in a meaningful way. Tony's concept of "souvenirs" to help students retain musical lessons. This strategy encourages students to find personal connections with music to make learning more engaging and memorable. The importance of authenticity in Tony's marketing strategy and how he shares content that reflects his teaching philosophy, attracting the right students for his approach to piano. For those looking to grow as instructors and build your music school, Tony shares his truly innovative approach to teaching piano that emphasizes creativity, community, and understanding music as a life skill. His unique methods foster deep connections with students of all levels and backgrounds, and highlight practical strategies for integrating music into everyday lives of students. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators looking to attract more students and create a sustainable business. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. Tony's links: popMATICS on TikTok popMATICS website ------------------------------------------ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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94: Grouping Students in Bands -- Part 3 of Band Program Series
This episode is part 3 of the Building a Band Program series on the Rock School Proprietor podcast, hosted by John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com). In this episode John shares strategies for effectively grouping students into bands in your music school. This includes using variables like age, ability level, and musical interests in conjunction to find the best fit for students to build an engaging group environment that students will love. Included: Variables for grouping students: age, ability, musical interest The importance of social development in band rehearsals and finding balance with ability levels Strategies for flexibility when grouping by age and ability levels Avoiding some common pitfalls when putting students in groups for your band program. If you're interested in starting a band program in your music teaching studio or looking for ideas to enhance or grow an existing program, this series is for you! In it we will cover how a band program can create a strong community in your studio, increase profit margins, and lead to greater student retention. Interested in the Building a Band Program webinar? We're planning a free live webinar to accompany this series on Friday, July 24, 2026. John will go deeper on these topics and answer your questions directly. If you're interested, send an email to [email protected] with the subject line Webinar and we will be in touch with details. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. ------------------------------------------ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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93: Employees or Contractors? What Music School Owners Need to Know
On this episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) tackle whether music instructors should be classified as employees or independent contractors and why that decision is important for every studio. They break down the criteria the IRS uses to assess classification by behavioral control, financial control, and the relationship of the parties. John and Mandy also trace how our industry evolved from music-store lessons to dedicated lesson studios, and how the instructor classification may just be slower in that evolution. They also discuss practical considerations like contracts, insurance, background checks, and how employment status shapes studio culture. Topics discussed: Evolution of music studio business models from retail to education IRS criteria for classifying employees vs contractors Legal and tax considerations for music instructors The importance of consulting professionals for business setup Whether you’re starting a studio or re-evaluating your setup, this episode offers a clear framework to help you rethink instructor roles and make informed decisions. Interested in the Building a Band Program webinar? We're planning a free live webinar to accompany the Building a Band Program series of episoders on Friday, July 24, 2026. John will go deeper on the topics and answer your questions directly. If you're interested, send an email to [email protected] with the subject line Webinar and we will be in touch with details. -------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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92: How to Choose Band Instructors -- Part 2 of Band Program Series
This episode is part 2 of the Building a Band Program series on the Rock School Proprietor podcast, hosted by John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com). In this episode John offers insight on selecting the ideal instructor to lead band programs, emphasizing qualities like multi-instrumentalism, a producer-like perspective, and decision-making skills. Included: Qualities of effective band instructors Importance of multi-instrumental skills Producer-like perspective in band leadership Decision-making and leadership in band rehearsals Setting realistic goals and expectations for bands If you're interested in starting a band program in your music teaching studio or looking for ideas to enhance or grow an existing program, this series is for you! In it we will cover how a band program can create a strong community in your studio, increase profit margins, and lead to greater student retention. Interested in the Building a Band Program webinar? We're planning a free live webinar to accompany this series on Friday, July 24, 2026. John will go deeper on these topics and answer your questions directly. If you're interested, send an email to [email protected] with the subject line Webinar and we will be in touch with details. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. ------------------------------------------ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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91: Levi Clay | Finding Balance in Playing And Learning Music
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) talks with Levi Clay—author, transcriber and online instructor—about balancing instant access to tabs, tutorials and AI with the human skills that make music meaningful. The two explore effective teaching strategies, the importance of foundational skills like ear training, and how modern technology influences guitar learning. In this episode: The significance of interest-driven learning and curriculum design The dangers of relying solely on tabs and AI for learning music Building a musical community through jam nights and social interactions Teaching students to develop ear training and transcribe songs The importance of understanding the "why" behind playing music Future challenges and opportunities in music education amidst AI advances Encouraging students to internalize instead of depend on technology Recommendations for instructors to help students so they can eventually "graduate" lessons Remember: The most effective music teachers inspire curiosity, focus on foundational skills, and foster genuine musical community—both online and in-person. Levi’s Links: https://leviclay.com/ https://guidedpracticeroutines.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/LeviClay Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators interested in building and growing their business. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. ------------------------------------------ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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90: How To Structure a Band Program -- Part 1 of Band Program Series
This episode is part of the Building a Band Program series on the Rock School Proprietor podcast, hosted by John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com). In this episode, John shares his insights on how to structure a successful band program, covering planning, goal setting, and anticipating future growth. Included: Planning your band season Setting achievable goals for students Creating a rehearsal timeline and schedule If you're interested in starting a band program in your music teaching studio or looking for ideas to enhance or grow an existing program, this series is for you! In we will cover how a band program can create a strong community in your studio, increase profit margins, and lead to greater student retention. Interested in the Building a Band Program webinar? We're planning a free live webinar to accompany this series where John will go deeper on these topics and answer your questions directly. If you're interested, send an email to [email protected] with the subject line Webinar and we will be in touch with details. Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms. ------------------------------------------ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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89: RSP Book Club -- Power of Play in Learning and Life
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) share two of their latest book recommendations for private music instructors and lesson studio owners. Mandy's pick: Play: How it Shapes the Brain, Opens the Imagination, and Invigorates the Soul by Stuart Brown, and as the extended title suggests, all the benefits of play-based learning. John's pick: The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek, which examines the concept of viewing your business as not a game to be won or lost, but something to play indefinitely -- an infinite game. Both books that approach growth, learning, and long-term thinking from different angles but land in surprisingly similar places. The conversation connects both books to the day-to-day reality of running a music school and makes a case for why the ideas inside them are worth your time as an instructor or lesson studio owner. In this episode: Why play is not just for kids, and how it drives creativity, resilience, and emotional development at every age. What Stuart Brown's research reveals about the role of play in learning and how it applies directly to music education. Simon Sinek's concept of the infinite game and why running a music school with no defined finish line is actually a strength, not a problem. How play strengthens relationships between students, parents, and teachers. How the infinite game mindset shifts the way you think about growth, competition, and success in your studio. Why integrating play into your teaching and your business culture fosters the kind of engagement that lasts. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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88: Brian Carrion | Using AI to Unlock Efficiency In Your Music School
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) talks with Brian Carrion, founder of Best Lesson Ever in Friendswood, Texas, about how he is using AI tools to build custom applications for his music school and automate operations in ways that go well beyond the basics most studio owners are experimenting with. Brian is not just using AI to write marketing copy or generate images. He is using tools like Claude, Lovable, and OpenClaw to create actual software solutions tailored to the specific problems his school faces. The conversation gets practical fast, with John walking through a real use case: building a concert planning app that factors in venue capacity, student experience levels, sibling scheduling, and set length. It is a concrete example of what becomes possible when you start treating AI as a builder, not just an assistant. In this episode: How Brian is using Lovable to build AI-powered apps and web tools for his music school without a traditional development background. What OpenClaw is and how Brian uses it to give AI agents access to his business apps and communication channels. How his team interacts with AI agents directly inside their workflow, not just as a behind-the-scenes tool. Brian's longer-term goal of building an AI agent capable of running an online business autonomously. A practical walkthrough of building a concert planning app, and what that process reveals about what AI can actually do for studio operations. How studio owners can start moving past surface-level AI use and into tools that solve real, specific business problems. If you have been using AI mostly for content creation, Brian's approach is a clear look at what the next level actually looks like. Brian's website: https://www.bestlessonever.com -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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87: How Early Childhood Music Boosts Development & Retention
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) explore early childhood music education and why starting younger than most studios allow can actually set kids up for long-term musical success. Many private lesson studios set firm age requirements based on assumptions about readiness, like can the child read, or will they practice? John and Mandy challenge those assumptions, making the case that play-based, organic learning in the early years primes students for deeper engagement down the road, builds lifelong musical instincts, and creates the kind of retention that transforms a studio's long-term health. In this episode: Why common age requirements in private studios are often based on the wrong definition of readiness. How early childhood music education supports development before formal reading or practice expectations are appropriate. Why a play-based approach sets a healthier precedent for how students relate to music long-term. The role parents play in early childhood music programs and how to engage them effectively. How transitioning students from group early childhood classes into private lessons creates exceptional long-term retention. Mandy shares how she structures enjoyable, low-pressure programs that prime children for future musical growth. If your studio has a minimum age requirement, this conversation will challenge some of the assumptions behind it and give you a practical case for rethinking when music education should begin. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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86: Jeff Homer | How to Sell Your Music School
Thinking of selling your music school? Or maybe you'd just like to have that option someday? In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) speaks with Jeff Homer, founder of Ensemble Performing Arts. Jeff's built a company that runs over 100 music schools, all through acquisitions from independent owners. In the conversation Jeff explains how to value a studio, find a buyer, and walks us through Ensemble’s acquisition process from letter of intent to integration, all while preserving each school's legacy and community ties. In this episode: Jeff's vision for Ensemble and how maintaining community ties within each of the schools under the Ensemble umbrella is key to success. Understanding where most music schools are already great, and how Ensemble "takes the baton" on back-end task like hiring, accounting, taxes, etc. Marketing and growth strategies that Ensemble uses that any school can apply today. What the acquisition process and exit planning look like when Ensemble purchases a music or performing arts school. Jeff also shares practical tips to make your studio attractive to buyers—clean financials, empowered staff, and smarter paid marketing—and outlines what sellers and staff can expect during and after the transition. Be sure to check out Part One of this conversation with Amie Nunez from Ensemble Performing Arts here -- 85: Amie Nunez | Building a Sellable Music School -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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85: Amie Nunez | Building a Sellable Music School
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) talk with Amy Nunez from Ensemble Performing Arts on how to make your music school both sustainable and saleable. This is part one of a two-part series with the team from Ensemble about what selling and purchasing a music school is like. Amie is a corporate development manager at Ensemble and shares her journey from music school owner to facilitating studio sales and exit strategies. As a former school owner herself now working for Ensemble Performing Arts she has a unique perspective. She explains valuation basics, what buyers look for, and simple steps (like a ‘vacation strategy’) to test and strengthen your team and systems. In this episode: Learn how developing a studio exit strategy and a focus on valuation can benefit your music school now, even if you never decide to sell. Amie explains key indicators and links between financial health and profitability of music schools How a 'vacation strategy' can work as a test-run for longer-term exit strategy. How the keys to building a scalable and sustainable business model give owners long-term options to sell, but also freedom and flexibility to be more fluid in the everyday operations now. Learn why reducing owner dependency, documenting systems, training instructors, and cleaning up finances are essential—not just for an eventual sale but for better day‑to‑day operations. In Part Two we speak with Jeff Homer, founder of Ensemble Performing Arts. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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84: Mindset & Habits - Productivity for Studio Owners
In this conversation, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) explore the intricacies of productivity, focusing on the importance of mindset, planning, and routines. They discuss how self-accountability plays a crucial role in maintaining productivity without a traditional boss. The dialogue delves into personal strategies for effective time management, the impact of morning routines, and the challenges of transitioning between different roles in their professional lives. They also touch on the pitfalls of social media and procrastination, emphasizing the need for preparation and consistency in both personal and professional settings. In this episode: Self-accountability is essential for productivity without a boss. Mindset significantly influences daily productivity. Planning ahead can alleviate stress and enhance focus. Morning routines set the tone for a productive day. Avoiding social media can lead to greater presence and focus. Understanding personal productive times can optimize task management. Consistency can simplify decision-making and enhance energy levels. Procrastination often stems from fear of imperfection. The connection between mindset and physical activity, and how a clear mind can inspire creativity. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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83: Shana Pistilli | Embracing Neurodiversity in Music Education
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) interviews Shana Pistilli, founder of the Rubato School of Music, discussing the importance of inclusion in music education, particularly for neurodiverse students. Shana shares her background in special education and autism studies, emphasizing the need for understanding and adapting teaching methods to meet the diverse needs of students. The conversation covers building relationships with parents, managing expectations, creating safe learning environments, and the role of community in fostering a supportive atmosphere for all students. Shayna also highlights the intersection of music education and therapy, providing insights and resources for educators looking to improve their practices. In this episode: Inclusion is essential in music education. Understanding neurodiversity enhances teaching effectiveness. Building relationships with parents fosters communication. Managing expectations is crucial for student success. Creating a safe environment encourages student expression. Community support enhances learning experiences. Integrating neurodiverse and neurotypical students enriches classes. Social interactions are vital for student development. Training for instructors is necessary for effective teaching. Music education can overlap with therapeutic practices. The episode offers practical tips for instructors and studio owners—how to start conversations with families, adapt lesson plans and group classes, support non-speaking students, and know when to collaborate with music therapists—so you can make your studio more welcoming and effective for every learner. ------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Sign up for our email newsletter on the website, and visit the Resources section to get FREE guides to help grow your music school, improve retention, and more. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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82: Lessons Learned from Hiring Mistakes
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) get real about the unexpected challenges of hiring instructors: the mistakes they made, the emotional weight of being responsible for others, and the mindset shift from solo teacher to leader. In this discussion: Hiring is a crucial aspect of running a small business, and clear expectations are essential for new hires How anticipating growth and can impact hiring, and planning ahead is vital for effective management. The responsibility of managing others can feel overwhelming, and how transitioning from teacher to manager requires a mindset shift. Creating a supportive environment fosters growth for instructors. Embracing leadership roles is necessary for business success. Building a great music school and studio business isn't just about how you teach. Supporting staff and making good hiring decision becomes equally important when you take on the role of studio owner. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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81: Melanie Bowes | KeyNotes & Teaching Music for Lifelong Impact
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) speaks with Melanie Bowes, music educator and founder of the KeyNotes Music curriculum. John and Melanie discuss how children actually learn music and why so many traditional music education models don't quit hit the mark. Melanie shares what she has seen firsthand in classrooms, how curriculum design shapes student confidence, and why autonomy and context can contribute greatly to success in learning. They also explore the role of parents in a child’s musical development, why group classes can be more powerful than private lessons, and how a holistic approach creates deeper engagement that lasts well beyond exams or recital season. In this episode: Melanie emphasizes the importance of a holistic approach to music education. How KeyNotes was developed to address gaps in traditional music teaching methods. Parental involvement is crucial in a child's music education journey. Group classes foster collaboration and socialization among students. Autonomy in learning leads to greater engagement and success. How KeyNotes adapts to different age groups and learning needs. Communication and context in music are essential for effective learning. Group learning can be more impactful than one-on-one lessons. Creating a fun and engaging environment is key to student motivation. Music education should focus on enriching lives, not just passing exams. This conversation is a reminder that great music education starts with understanding the learner, not just delivering content. When curriculum is built around how students actually grow, when parents are treated as partners, and when learning happens in community, the results extend far beyond technique or assessment. Music becomes a shared language, a confidence builder, and a lifelong skill. That is the kind of work that sustains students, educators, and schools over the long haul. ------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Sign up for our email newsletter on the website, and visit the Resources section to get FREE guides to help grow your music school, improve retention, and more. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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80: How Greg Hipskind Built a Lasting Music School Legacy
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) reflect on the recent passing of Greg Hipskind, founder of QC Rock Academy, and how his authenticity, dedication to teaching, and focus on community created an enduring legacy beyond running a business. This episode explores purpose-driven daily choices, the power of live music and student opportunities, and practical questions about preparing a music school to continue and serve its community without its founder. In this episode: Purpose-driven actions lead to a meaningful legacy. Creating a culture of impact requires dedication and authenticity. Leadership plays a crucial role in sustaining a school's mission. Engaging with the community enhances the music education experience. Advocating for music education fosters a supportive environment. Legacy is about more than business; it's about the impact on lives. If you've not listened to Episode 26: Greg Hipskind | Building a Rock Solid Culture, it is highly recommended as a companion to this episode. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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79: How Educating Parents Can Strengthen Your Music School
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) discuss the importance of educating parents in music lessons. They explore various strategies for setting expectations, providing feedback, and reinforcing learning. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective communication with parents, the role of repetition in learning, and the balance between reading music and playing by ear. They also highlight the evolving nature of parent education and the significance of building confidence through group learning. Areas of focus: Educating parents is crucial for successful music lessons. Setting clear expectations helps align student and parent goals. Repetition aids in the retention of information for both kids and parents. Feedback and anecdotes can enhance parent engagement. Building confidence in students often comes from group learning experiences. Effective communication strategies are essential for parent education. Understanding progress in music can be challenging for parents. Balancing reading music and playing by ear is important for student development. Parent education strategies should evolve over time. Encouraging parents to let go of expectations can foster a better learning environment. Building a great music school and studio business happens when we focus our education on students and their parents. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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78: Sam Lellouche | Building Opus1 for Music School Management
In this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) speaks with Sam Lelouch, founder of lesson studio management software Opus1.io. Sam recounts how his frustrations with available tools turned into developing a studio management platform built to solve real music-school problems like scheduling, billing, makeups, communication and staff workflows. As co-owner of a music school with his wife, paired with his background in tech, Sam understands customer-driven product development, automation that reduces admin workload, and metrics that help schools scale profitably. In this episode: Opus1 started with a small music school and grew significantly. The software was developed to solve specific problems faced by music schools. Flexibility in scheduling and billing is crucial for customer retention. Customer feedback directly influences the development of new features for Opus1. The software aims to streamline operations and reduce administrative burdens. Data-driven decisions are essential for scaling a music school. The importance of having a supportive team and community in the music education sector. Opus1 offers a comprehensive solution for managing music schools. Investing in the right software can save time and increase profitability. This episode is packed with insights on customer-centric development, pricing strategies, and the key traits of successful music school owners. The conversation highlights the importance of flexibility, innovation, and understanding the unique needs of music education. From starting a music lesson business to growing and scaling your studio, this episode is filled with usable information! ------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Sign up for our email newsletter on the website, and visit the Resources section to get FREE guides to help grow your music school, improve retention, and more. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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77: Lauren Bateman | The Grind Behind YouTube Success
On this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) talk with Lauren Bateman, a successful music educator and YouTube guitar teacher with over 600 thousand subscribers. They discuss the balance between running brick-and-mortar music schools and an online presence, the realities of achieving success on YouTube, and the importance of authenticity in content creation. Lauren shares insights on hiring, narrowing down niches, and navigating the challenges of algorithm changes. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in music education and the significance of coaching others in the industry. In this episode: How Lauren finds balance running two music schools and a successful YouTube channel. How balancing multiple business ventures requires effective time management and delegation. Lauren shares insight about on how YouTube success is not guaranteed and often takes years of consistent effort, and that authenticity is crucial for connecting with an audience on YouTube. Hiring instructors requires looking for animated and engaging personalities. Narrowing down a niche can help attract a specific audience. Post-COVID, online learning has become more accepted, but competition has increased. Diversifying platforms can protect against algorithm changes. AI is becoming a significant player in education, but human interaction remains valuable. Coaching others can be a fulfilling way to share knowledge and experience. From balancing her brick-and-mortar music schools to navigating the digital landscape, Lauren's journey is a testament to hard work and authenticity. Lauren shares a wealth of knowledge in this episode on growing a thriving music school and online community. Lauren's website: https://www.laurenbateman.com/ Lauren's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/LaurenBateman ------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Sign up for our email newsletter on the website, and visit the Resources section to get FREE guides to help grow your music school, improve retention, and more. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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76: Reflections & Aspirations -- A 2026 Blueprint for Music School Success
In this episode, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) reflect on their experiences over the past year, discussing the importance of setting goals, evaluating successes and failures, and learning from challenges. They emphasize the significance of writing down goals, the impact of unexpected surprises, and the growth that comes from both personal and professional milestones. As they look ahead to 2026, they share insights on building a stronger studio culture and the actionable steps they plan to take in the new year. In this episode: Reflecting on the past year is crucial for growth. Writing down goals increases the likelihood of achieving them. Evaluating both successes and failures helps in future planning. Unexpected challenges can lead to personal growth. Actionable goals are more effective than vague aspirations. Building a strong studio culture requires intentional effort. Surprises can be both positive and negative in a business context. Learning from past experiences is essential for improvement. Setting measurable goals helps track progress effectively. Celebrating milestones can enhance motivation and morale. Building a great music school and studio business happens by taking slow, deliberate actions. The new year is a great time to reflect on those small actions that resulted in long-term growth, and establish future actions. Happy New Year! -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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75: Greatest Hits With Dave Simon & Tim Topham
On this special “Greatest Hits of 2025” episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) brings together some of the most impactful moments from two standout conversations of 2025, featuring Dave Simon and Tim Topham. This curated episode highlights big ideas, fresh perspectives, and practical strategies for lesson studio owners who want to elevate the student experience and strengthen their business. In this episode: Rethinking the “practice problem” with Dave Simon—why traditional views on practice fall short and what to do instead. How to reframe practice in a way that keeps students motivated and parents confident in their child’s progress. The traits Dave sees most often in successful music schools, and how group learning and fun-driven instruction help students stay engaged longer. Insights from Tim Topham on shifting toward a student-focused approach to teaching music. Why “playing first, reading second” can unlock creativity, intuition, and deeper musical connection. How modern music education is moving beyond traditional methods and leaning into collaboration, community, and real-world musical experiences. This episode brings together the wisdom of two influential voices in music education, offering studio owners fresh ways to think about practice, teaching approaches, and building thriving learning communities. It’s a perfect year-end reflection to spark ideas and inspiration as you look ahead to the future of your studio. Full versions of the episodes featured: 29: Dave Simon | Revisiting the 'Practice Problem' & Rethinking Music Lessons 36: Tim Topham | From Tradition to Innovation - Teaching Music Differently -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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74: Mistakes We Made Running our Studios (And How We Fixed Them)
On this episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) have an honest conversation about the mistakes they’ve made while running their music lesson businesses, and more importantly, the lessons that came out of them. From pricing missteps to programs they didn’t promote soon enough, this episode pulls back the curtain on some real challenges studio owners face as they grow. In this episode: The early mistakes that cost time, money, and momentum, including undervaluing services and offering too many unpaid demos. Why promoting full band programs matters and how overlooking them slowed down growth. The importance of qualifying ideal clients and how misalignment can drain energy and resources. How delaying key hires created bottlenecks—and what changed when they finally brought new team members on. This candid conversation offers a look at the missteps that many studio owner encounters, along with the simple shifts that can help you avoid them. If you’re building a lesson program or growing a team, these insights will help you spot challenges early and make confident, sustainable decisions for your studio. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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73: Eric Branner | Teaching Boldly and Founding Fons
In this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) interviews Eric Branner, founder of FONS studio management software, and host of the 440 Podcast. The two have an introspective conversation about treating teaching as a calling and building a studio grounded in purpose. They discuss Eric's journey founding FONS, automating scheduling and payments, owning your pricing, perceived value, and how bold decisions create momentum for studios and teachers. In this episode: How teaching is a calling and should be embraced as such, and success in teaching often comes from confidence and clarity in purpose. Why perceived value significantly influences student enrollment, and parents often seek the best for their children, impacting their choices. How taking a bold approach to pricing can actually attract more students. How mentorship plays a crucial role in personal and professional growth, and mindset shifts can lead to increased opportunities. Tune in for practical lessons on elevating your business, cultivating community, and rethinking what music teaching can mean for your life and career. Eric's Podcast, The Fourfourty (440) with Eric Branner Eric's Website ------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Sign up for our email newsletter on the website, and visit the Resources section to get FREE guides to help grow your music school, improve retention, and more. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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72: Which "Hat" Do You Wear in Your Business - Technician, Manager, or Entrepreneur?
Hosts John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) adapt Michael Gerber’s E-Myth to music schools, breaking down the three essential roles—technician, manager, and entrepreneur—and how each impacts running your studio. They discuss how to identify which role fits you, practical ways to delegate or hire, using systems and tech to streamline work, and why shifting from “how” to “who” can prevent burnout and enable growth. In this episode: There are three primary roles in every business: technician, manager, entrepreneur. How to identify your role, or the role you're best suited for in your lesson business. The technician is often the doer, focused on the technical aspects. The manager oversees operations and ensures efficiency. The entrepreneur drives vision and innovation. Self-awareness helps in identifying which role you play, and which you want to play. Each role has its own set of characteristics and challenges, and how balancing these roles can lead to better business outcomes and greater personal fulfillment. Recognizing your strengths can enhance your effectiveness in your role and how collaboration among roles is key to a successful business. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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71: Sara Campbell | Stop the 'Ick' -- Authentic Marketing for Music Teachers
John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) talks with business and marketing coach Sara Campbell of Savvy Music Studio about using your existing student relationships to transform your marketing. Instead of inventing ideal client personas or copying flashy social media tactics, Sarah shows how the language you already use in lessons and the real progress you see every week are your best marketing tools. In this episode: Why inauthentic tactics (fake scarcity, polarizing posts, product-style marketing) feel icky for music teachers How focusing on truth, trust, and niche specialization attracts better-fit clients. Why authenticity in communication is more effective than marketing jargon, and how to niche down to find your unique voice as an instructor Practical tips like capturing small lesson moments, asking students what mattered in a lesson, and marketing to your current families as much as to prospects. This episode offers clear, actionable advice for studio owners who want to market more authentically, improve retention, and grow by leaning into what already works in their studio. ------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Visit the Resources section of our website to get FREE guides to help grow your music school, improve retention, and more. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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70: Adam Pattee | Maximizing Efficiency & Growth with MyMusicStaff
Which music school management software is best? The answer will vary based on your specific needs, but on this episode of Rock School Proprietor Podcast, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) does a deep-dive into MyMusicStaff with Adam Pattee, the platform's demo & onboarding specialist. This episode digs into the benefits of integrated studio management software with. We cover the importance of time management in lesson business operations, emphasizing how integrated systems can significantly reduce manual work and improve efficiency. Adam highlights how automation and connected tools save studio owners hours, enforce policies without drama, simplify instructor training, and support growth from solo teachers to large schools. Adam dispels the myth that MyMusicStaff is only for small studios and shares how the platform is built to grow as your studio grows. It is used by solo instructors and multi-location studios with thousands of students. Learn about scheduling, billing, website and tagging features, and how these systems free you to focus on teaching and growing your music school business. ------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Visit the Resources section of our website to get FREE guides to help grow your music school, improve retention, and more. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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69: How Surveys Save Time and Shape Programs for Music Schools
In this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) explain how to use surveys to develop new programs, evaluate instructors, and measure overall client satisfaction in your music studio. They cover what to ask (and what to avoid), how often to survey without causing fatigue, tips on platforms and question wording, and how to use feedback to improve scheduling, event planning, staffing, and studio practices. You can leverage all of this information to determine what resonates with your current clients, and use that to attract more students. Build your music school smarter, not harder! -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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68: Top 3 Tech Tools to Transform Your Music School
John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) each share the three technologies they rely on to run their music studios more smoothly. The cover platforms from project management and scheduling to email marketing and team communication. They discuss tools like Trello, ActiveCampaign, Acuity/Squarespace scheduling, Slack, ClickSend, Canva, and payment processors, plus tips on choosing the right features and avoiding shiny-object overload. Many of these platforms offer free or low-cost options that work well for most studios, and the episode focuses on practical integrations that save time and reduce admin work so teachers can focus on teaching and growing their studios. -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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67: Response to Dave Simon's 3 Metrics for Student Retention
On this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) reacts to Dave Simon's podcast about the three P's of music lesson success—pleasure, practice, progress—and proposes a fourth P: purpose. He argues that understanding why a student is taking lessons changes how we weight practice and progress, and can improve retention. The episode explores how emphasizing practice without knowing a family’s goals can push students to quit, offers practical thinking for teachers, and points to resources for redefining what counts as practice and aligning lessons with student purpose. Additional suggested listening: Music Lessons & Marketing: The 3 Metrics Parents Use to Define Music Lesson Success | EP268 Ep. 29: Dave Simon | Revisiting the 'Practice Problem' Ep. 30: Inside Look at Why Parents Pull Kids from Music Lessons Ep. 4: What "Counts" as Practice? Redefining Practice in Music Lessons -------------------------------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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66: Demitris Maddox | 3 Simple Videos to Turn Website Clicks Into Students
Your website might be doing a great job explaining what you offer but is it helping parents feel confident about choosing you? On this episode of Rock School Proprietor Podcast, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) are joined by Demitris Maddox (Provide Impact) to talk about the strategic use of video on your music school's website. Most schools still aren’t using video on their sites in the right way, and it is such low-hanging fruit to boost conversions and grow your studio. Demitris explains three easy to create videos to add visitor value to your website, and how strategic placement of those videos can go a long way to making better connections with prospective students and families. What Happens at The First/Intro Lesson? The 7 Top Questions Parents Ask Us What Happens When I Fill Out This Form? Demetrius explains how well-placed videos answer parents' questions, address their concerns, and build trust before they even reach out. The videos he recommends require very little effort and can be shot on your phone — this isn’t about fancy production, it’s about using video strategically to turn website visitors into enrolled students and build your music school. To access the BONUS video mentioned in the episode, visit http://provideimpact.com/videofour To hear Demitris Maddox on a previous episode of the show: 40: Demitris Maddox | Designing Music School Websites That Attract & Convert ------------------------- Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Visit the Resources section of our website to get FREE guides to help grow your music school, improve retention, and more. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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65: Q&A Quickfire Episode | Curriculum, Software & Marketing for Music Studios
On this Q&A quick-fire episode of Rock School Proprietor Podcast, hosts John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) answer three listener questions studio owners are asking: Investing in a licensed curriculum for group classes. What to consider, questions to ask, and where to start? Which studio management software is best? Core features like automatic billing and payment, schedule features, and add-ons. How to market your lessons when the concept of marketing seems overwhelming? John and Mandy offer practical advice to help you make choices that have the biggest positive impact on your studio. Additional resources mentioned in this episode: Episode 16: Unlocking the Secrets of Licensed Curriculum for Music Studios Episode 6: Mastering Music School Marketing with Adam Wilson - Part 1: Building your Brand Episode 7: Mastering Music School Marketing with Adam Wilson - Part 2: Your Marketing Plan Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming.
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64: Navigating Competition When a New Studio Moves In
John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) discuss the fear and insecurity that arise when a new music studio opens nearby, sharing a personal story about feeling threatened and how that led to mistakes. They explore how to shift from reactive competition to a healthier, more constructive mindset. Practical takeaways from the discussion: compete with yourself learn from others stay true to your core values maintain an abundance mindset protect your mental health consider collaboration to strengthen your local music community. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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63: Darvin Lau & Mike Grande | How to Make Recitals & Concerts Profitable
Studio owner Darvin Lau (BayRidge School of Music) found his concerts costing more than they earned — until Mike Grande (Rock Out Loud Live) helped him change the playbook. On this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com), with help from Mike and Darvin, walk through concrete steps that transformed Darvin's costly concerts into profitable events. Tips to make it happen: negotiating venue deals selling VIP tickets bundling registrations and tickets creating band slots instead of solos hiring photographers selling merch leveraging scheduling to retain students Hosts share practical examples, pricing tips and timing strategies you can use to make your recitals pay for themselves while improving the experience for students, families and staff. BONUS: download the FREE guide with all the tips form this episode, "How to Turn Student Concerts Into Profitable Events." Get it at https://rockschoolproprietor.com/resources/ Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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62: DIY Publicity Tips to Get Your Music School in the News
On this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) teach music school owners how to get free publicity. Newspapers, magazines, online outlets, and even TV news are regularly LOOKING for stories to cover. Knowing how to craft newsworthy stories, write effective press releases, build relationships with journalists, and use photos can increase your chances of coverage. We also explain why publicity can be more valuable than paid ads for long-term credibility and visibility. And the best part is that it doesn't cost you a cent! Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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61: How To Attract the Right Students (And Lose the Wrong Ones)
In this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) discuss why being selective about students and families helps you build the studio culture you want. They share real examples and practical strategies for setting expectations, protecting staff time, and aligning families with your lesson studio philosophy. Key takeaways include: Choosing the right students is crucial for studio culture. Building community among families enhances the studio experience. Clear communication of policies helps set expectations. Parents' expectations for practice should align with studio philosophy. Creating a positive environment for instructors is essential. Setting boundaries is necessary for studio management. Understanding family dynamics can aid in student selection. Regular feedback from families can improve studio offerings. A strong community attracts like-minded families. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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60: Q&A Episode | When Your Star Instructor's Communication Is Horrible
On this Q&A episode of Rock School Proprietor Podcast, hosts John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) tackle a messy situation: a talented instructor with persistent communication and scheduling problems who has started teaching elsewhere and even picked up former students privately. They walk through how to decide whether to keep or cut ties, how to open a calm, curiosity-driven conversation, and practical steps to tighten communication and set clear expectations. Do you have a problem in your studio you think we could help with? Send us a message and we could do a Q & A episode discussing your problem. Click here to send a message to Mandy and John. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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59: Kristin Blanchard | Engaging Young Musicians in Middle School Band
John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) talk with Kristen Blanchard, 2024 Michigan Band Director of the Year. A middle school band director (Muir Middle School) of nearly 30 years, she shares how music education has evolved and how her methods have also changed over the course of her career. Kristin highlights why creating a fun, engaging environment is so important in her band room. They discuss practical approaches to practice, the value of performance traditions, and how private instructors and school programs can work together to grow lifelong musicians and music lovers. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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58: Kelly Bennett | Taking Music School Students on Tour
In this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) Kelly Bennett, co-owner of Valencia School of Music, about taking a group of teenagers from her music school on tour. They discuss all the challenges and successes involved in organizing this huge project. Kelly shares insights on how to create a supportive community for young musicians and the importance of performance opportunities in music education. Kelly walks through organizing a student band tour from New Jersey to Nashville—covering timeline, budgeting, accommodations, chaperones, rehearsals, workshops, and live performances. She explains lessons learned and how Kelly is refining plans to make future experiences sustainable and meaningful. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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57: Brady Davies | Music School Acquisitions (The Buyer's Perspective)
In this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) speaks with Brady Davies, the founder of One Music Schools. Brady shares his family's journey of opening a single piano lesson studio (The Piano Place), expanding to multiple locations, and now leading a company that purchase music schools. Join us as Brady delves into the intricacies of acquiring music schools, what he looks for in potential buys, and the seamless ways he integrates them into his successful brand while preserving their unique legacies. In this episode: Brady offers resources for music school owners looking to sell or improve their operations. How community and individual student engagement are essential for a successful music school. The things Brady and his company look for when considering a school for purchase. What the negotiation and purchase process looks like. Brady's post-acquisition focus on maintaining the legacy of the school as a priority. Tips for school owners to make their studio a valuable prospect for sale, even if they aren't looking to sell. Gain valuable insights into the importance of robust systems and processes in running multiple music schools efficiently, and why these are essential whether you are planning to sell or simply wish to streamline your operations. Get the FREE eBook, 6 Stages to Selling Your Music School, by visiting OneMusicSchool.com Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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56: Eric Bourassa | What It's Like to Sell Your Music School (The Seller's Perspective)
On this episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast host John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) has a fascinating conversation with Eric Bourassa (UnlimitedGuitar.com), the former owner of the Fort Worth Music Academy. Eric shares why he chose to sell his thriving music business and the personal insights he gained afterward. This episode unveils the intricacies of selling a business, the emotional journey involved, and the surprising regrets that came with it. In this episode: Eric emphasizes the importance of having a clear vision for one's career. The intense emotions involved in selling a business, and how they can influence decisions. The negotiation process in selling a business requires careful consideration and legal advice. Building a successful music school involves more than just financial success; community matters. Transitioning from a brick-and-mortar school to online teaching, and future plans to possibly return to a brick-and-mortar school. Eric candidly shares his motivations, the challenges he faced in the negotiation process, and how his passion for being a full-time musician influenced his decision. If you're contemplating selling your own music school or simply curious about the journey of a business owner, this episode is packed with valuable lessons and honest reflections. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music School," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Looking for a simple and effective guitar curriculum that includes FREE instructor training and support? Consider John's book, Complete Guitar Strumming. Episode Transcript:
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55: Celebrating a Year of Rock School Proprietor Insights
Join hosts John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) as they celebrate a year of conversations on the Rock School Proprietor Podcast. In this special episode, they reflect on their journey of over 50 episodes, sharing their top takeaways from conversations and listener interactions. Mandy and John both share their top 3 most insightful episodes and why. Episode 2: Are parents the REAL students in music lessons? Episode 39: Taming Your 'Nope List' to Delegate Like a Pro Episode 18: Why Music Lessons are Losing to Sports Episode 33: Future-Proofing Music Lessons in the Age of AI Episode 21: Q&A Episode: How to switch from Private Lessons to Group Classes Episode 10: Prioritize Playing Over Teaching in Private Lessons Whether it's discussing the gap between traditional music method books and students' desires, promoting practical learning approaches, or exploring the innovative world of AI in music education, John and Mandy cover the spectrum of topics that impact music educators and studio owners. Tune in for a rich discussion that balances education with community-building, offering valuable insights for instructors and music lovers alike. Celebrate a year's worth of growth, challenges, and exciting content, and look forward to what the future holds for music education! Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "The Modern Music Schools," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights.
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54: Nicole Kovar | In-Home Lessons & the Mobile Studio Model
In this enlightening episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, hosts John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) are joined by Nicole Kovar, founder of Piano and More. They discuss the ins and outs of operating a mobile music lessons school that only offers in-home private lessons. Discover how Nicole breaks geographic barriers by sending instructors to students' homes throughout Northern Virginia, making music accessible to everyone. In this episode: The unique challenges of promoting community and culture in the in-home private lesson environment Considerations for safety of both students and instructors in the absence of a brick and mortar studio location Nicole's inspiring initiative, "Play It Forward," dedicated to providing free instruments and lessons to families in need The pros and cons of establishing your studio as a non-profit organization, which Nicole has done with Piano and More. If you've contemplated how to navigate in-home lessons and set up a mobile studio, this episode dives deep into the challenges and rewards. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "Performance-Based Music Programs and Rock Schools," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Episode Transcript:
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53: Mike Grande | Battling Counterfeiters on a Wild Journey to Reclaim His Business
Join us on an extraordinary episode of Rock School Proprietor Podcast as host John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) welcomes back Mike Grande, owner of three music schools and founder of the Rock Out Loud Live online lesson platform. On Episode 24 Mike joined us to share how he was using TikTok Shop to sell his Card Chords product, and how it ultimately launched him into the top 4% of US sellers on TikTok. After his remarkable success, counterfeiting thieves hacked Mike’s website, locking him out of his bustling business. In this compelling conversation, Mike shares the challenging odyssey of battling counterfeiters across multiple platforms and countries, offering us valuable insights into intellectual property protection. Mike also gives us an exclusive first look at his latest invention, Kapsoul. Tune in for an inspiring masterclass in resilience and entrepreneurship. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "Performance-Based Music Programs and Rock Schools," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Episode Transcript:
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52: Events That Build Community & Improve Retention
In this episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, hosts John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) discuss hosting memorable events that do more than just showcase musical talent. Explore how well-run events can bolster community bonds, enhance your studio's reputation, and create lasting memories for students and families alike. All leading to greater retention and longevity in your studio! John and Mandy share their experiences and insights on what's made their events a success, including a deep dive into Mandy's ten-year studio anniversary celebrations. Learn about innovative event ideas like outdoor concerts, parent-only gatherings, and live collaborations that go beyond traditional music recitals. The duo also reveals how to simplify the process, offering strategies for efficient event management—think minimal effort for maximum effect. Whether you’re seeking ways to engage your local community, expand your brand reach, or just want to run smoother events, this episode is packed with actionable tips and creative ideas tailored for music studios. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "Performance-Based Music Programs and Rock Schools," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Episode Transcript:
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51: Becki Laurent | Tips for Teaching Neurodiverse Students
In this episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, host John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) delves into effective teaching strategies for neurodiverse students with guest Becki Laurent (The Music Studio - Lubbock, TX, Simply Piano), a respected music studio owner and educator. Becky shares her unique insights into teaching neurodivergent children by embracing her own ADHD as an advantage in the classroom. The discussion provides practical techniques that not only benefit those teaching neurodiverse students but also enhance teaching methods for all learners by understanding brain development and neuroplasticity. In this episode: Becki shares how her own journey with ADHD has proved to be a superpower in her professional life, and how she leverages that knowledge when working with neurodiverse students How the umbrella term of "neurodiverse" can also present challenges in understanding difference in diagnosis like ADHA, autism, dyslexia, and more Practical techniques music instructors can use in lessons with neurodiverse learners Becki offers her top three tips for instructors to feel more confident when teaching neurodiverse students How the core aspects we discuss center on brain development and neuroplasticity, and can make you a better teacher with any student. Whether you're involved with neurodiverse students or not, this conversation is packed with tools and insights that aim to make you a more adaptive and understanding educator. Your ratings and reviews on Apple Podcast and Spotify are always appreciated! Join our private Facebook group, "Performance-Based Music Programs and Rock Schools," a community for like-minded professionals to connect and share insights. Episode Transcript:
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Teaching you the secrets of running a successful rock band program, or just how to create an inspiring community centered on making music in your music lesson business. Host John Kozicki played in punk rock bands and went to school for business, while co-host Mandy York studied vocal performance and sang classical music. With vastly different background, these friends both run successful music lessons businesses and decided to record their conversations. From philosophy and culture to teaching and business strategy, each week John and Mandy turn their experiences into practical advice you can use to improve your music lesson business.
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