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#8 Kathy White

Episode 8 of the Be the Sun, Not the Salt podcast, hosted by Harry Cohen & Connie Fontaine, titled "#8 Kathy White" was published on January 1, 2024 and runs 39 minutes.

January 1, 2024 ·39m · Be the Sun, Not the Salt

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Kathy White is not only remarkable in her lifelong accomplishments - Princeton graduate, Rhodes Scholar, Law Professor, Brigadier General, University of Michigan Regent - she is equally committed to being a better person. In this episode, Kathy shares why the metaphor and the book, 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt,' has been such a helpful tool for her and her colleagues. Listen to how her team of leaders from the different branches of the US Armed Forces remind themselves - daily - to be their best...

Kathy White is not only remarkable in her lifelong accomplishments - Princeton graduate, Rhodes Scholar, Law Professor, Brigadier General, University of Michigan Regent - she is equally committed to being a better person. In this episode, Kathy shares why the metaphor and the book, 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt,' has been such a helpful tool for her and her colleagues. Listen to how her team of leaders from the different branches of the US Armed Forces remind themselves - daily - to be their best selves, and how that impacts their ability to collaborate. For those of us motivated by excellence, Kathy’s colleagues challenge us to “REMEMBER WHAT DAY IT IS.” (You'll know what that means after listening!)

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00 - Preface

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01 - The Farm

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02 - Visitors

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03 - The Christening

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04 - The Lost Pin

Dec 29, 2025 ·12m

05 - The Birthday

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