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I see so many of you in the audience. What a name. What a great name. If somewhere there's somebody who's maybe considering having a child or about to have a child or recently had a child who may have not named yet.
Don't you want to name your kid after an inside joke and the internet's 237th most favorite podcast? We're just waiting Hank. We're waiting for that one baby. The one baby to save us all.
Baby Ryan. The one true Ryan. Hello John. This is Dear Hank and John.
That's not how we start the podcast. Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John. Nope. No, it's not.
It wasn't ready. It wasn't ready. Okay. All right.
So guys, all right. We've never done this live before. I did a live podcast once without Hank. It was great, but it was all because of Karen Halle and I had nothing to do with the quality of the podcast.
Now I've got this Yahoo. So we're going to do our best. But please bear in mind we've never done this live before. We are going to be taking your questions.
But first we're going to take a few questions from the listeners. And then we'll get to some of your questions. Hopefully I apologize in advance for the fact that we're not going to answer almost all of your questions. Okay.
Hank, go. Three, two, one. Bang it out. Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John.
That was weirdly over the top. Let's try it one more time. It's always over the top, John. Have you listened to the podcast?
Oh, you're right. You know, I was actually listening to our most recent podcast. And that was the one time I thought we weren't over the over the top. And I was like, low energy.
Yeah. All right. All right. Last time.
Last time. Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John. Or is that for the Dear John and Hank? It's a comedy podcast where me and my brother John, we talk about death.
I answer your questions, give you to be a advice and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. Today we are live at Nerd, God, Nerd, Viteria. How you doing, John? I'm doing so well that for one thing for the first time in nine weeks, there is good news from AFC Wimbledon.
For another, I have to say that this first day at Nerd, Nerd, Viteria, this has been really one of the best days of my life. Just an incredible opportunity to hang out with people who are the best, like who are the best people. Objectively the best. And it's a yeah, it's not all the time that you get to throw a party for yourself and have a bunch of people show up.
It really does feel like we're just in a room full of friends and people who share our values and passions and interests. And it's just, you know, when you grow up in Nerd, you dream that something like this will happen. And I hope that everyone is having the same kind of experience that we're having. And thank you so much for being here.
Well, I'm also having a very good day, John. My Mars news is bad. It's bad. Mars news, John.
So I'm glad that you've got some good news. When you say bad, do you mean that it's good for the Internet's leading Mars opponent Leon It is good for Leon. Do not cheer. Good news for Leon.
It's good news for me. I know that you guys are out there, but I don't want to know that you're out there. I don't want to hear you out there. Hank, follow up to the original band re whether the name of the podcast is Dear Hank and John or Dear John and Hank.
Does the moment we rename the podcast Dear John and Hank come in 2028 or does it come when it becomes truly impossible in 2028, John? I think it's coming any day now because it is not looking good for humans on Mars by 2028. Hank, I have some corrections. Well, do you have a short poem?
I don't. Okay. Well, I know. I know.
I know. So here's the thing about the short poem. I'm reading this incredible book of poetry by a guy named Clint Smith, I think is his name. He has four.
It's so good. There's one other person in the audience. The book is called Counting Descent and it is so good. And it also has a number of short poems in it.
And so I wanted to read one of those poems, but I haven't reached out to him to get permission. So I'll do that and you'll get an incredible poem next week. I've got one, John. Oh, great.
It's a cold place. And they say it gets colder. You're bundled up now. Wait till you get older.
But the meteor men beg to differ, judging by the whole and the satellite picture, the ice we skate is getting pretty thin. Oh, God. The water is getting warm. So you might as well swim.
My world's on fire. How about yours? That's the way I like it. And I never get bored.
So that's what happens when you forget. For those who don't know, that was poem called, or who's the don't know, all star by Smash Mouth. All right, we got to get through some corrections really quickly because we got so much stuff wrong on our recent podcast. First off, we got the population of the United Kingdom wrong.
The actual population of the United Kingdom is 1,700 billion people. We also got the population of Canada wrong. It's their 14 Canadians. So I apologize to everybody in Canada.
All 14 of you, all listeners of the pod all wrote in to correct us. Then we got several corrections about bacteria as we often do. So first off, babies are born with gut microbes. Who knew?
But they are. We got that from Francis. And Francis seems very knowledgeable on the topic. Then we got several emails correcting us about the microbes inside of cow stomachs.
And I have to say, Hank, that 100% of the emails we got correcting us about cow stomach microbes also corrected us about star trek. That is a thing. The venn diagram is a circle. I'm going to talk about it.
I'm going to read you one example. There are several emails like this one. This one is from James who writes, hello. It was stated in the last pod that it was bacteria in cows that produce methane, but it is not.
Instead, it is the archaea in the guts of cows that do this. Archaea. Well, they appear to look like bacteria under a microscope are in fact as distantly related to bacteria as you can get sharing a common ancestor billions of years ago. Humans, plants, etc.
are a subgroup of archaea that once ate a bacterium and kept it around as a power plant within our cell, the mitochondria, no bacteria are known to produce methane. These methanogens have been produced, have been proposed to be very ancient. They cannot stand any oxygen and methane production would be a good way of producing energy in times long ago or some scientists think. Another possible correction while the United Federation of Planets was formed from the threat of an external enemy, the Romulan Star Empire.
Earth was united through humanity coming together after many years of war, World War III with 600 million casualties, and the eugenics wars of the 1990s before them. So that turned out better than we thought. I mean, I hope to get the 90s back. When first contact with the Vulcans was made after those wars, fingers crossed that the Vulcans make it here soon before World War III of Moss and Moose, James.
So there you go. Thank you, James, for those two corrections. We're wrong about Star Trek. We're wrong about the microbes inside of cow guts.
I mean, if this podcast provided more dubious advice. Yes, or dubious truth. Doobius truth. That's a good name for a band in the current 21st century.
Hey, let's know one other thing. Wait, what? In the previous podcast, Hank said that streetlights were boring. And then we got this beautiful email about streetlights that is too long for me to read, because like anything, when you pay attention to something, when you are attentive and pay close attention to it, it becomes beautiful and interesting.
And it turns out that streetlights are no exception in this regard. We got a beautiful email from a land surveyor who's been doing that work for 23 years about streetlights. We're going to post it on the patreon.com slash near Hank and John, where you can see it. Even if you're not a patron, although you are welcome to become one, it only costs a dollar a month and you get essentially nothing.
All right, John. We got a question. Oh, thanks. Any patron's out there in the audience?
Hey, thank you guys. Thank you. That's pretty great. We mostly use that money to run SciShow and Crash Course, we'll be honest.
That's actually entirely what we use all of it for. Well, a little bit goes to Nick for his non-scishow time or non-crash-verse time. But... Anyway, this question is from Glenn who asks, dear Hank and John, quick question.
Now that we can grow meat in labs, can vegetarians eat hamburgers? Is lab-grown meat vegan? Or is this also a problem for vegans? Science has blurred the lines for me.
I'm not even a vegetarian. Well, I mean, I don't know why you care, Glenn. How do they cope? He's not concerned for his own sake.
But for the vegetarian sake, he says, trolls in bridges, Glenn. What do you think, John? You're out. You're out.
You're just my question. John just got like 85 miles from the mic. I don't know what's happening. And moving away from the question.
Oh, you don't want to use that one any piece of this one? Well, you guys, well, the thing is, it depends on why you're doing it. Being a vegetarian, there are lots of good reasons to be a vegetarian. But I would say that the original cells that the lab-grown meat is made from came from an animal.
They might not have come from an animal that had to die, but for a vegan, that doesn't matter. It's just anything that influences, says, you are an animal for my sake, and I'm going to take your stuff so that I can survive when I don't even need that stuff. Then lab-grown meat probably doesn't make sense. Also, probably to your average vegan.
It just sounds terrible. Because of how it probably sounds terrible to your average human. It's kind of like, hmm, I get that might as might be better, but also, ugh. I, however, want it.
I want it so bad. Somebody get me some lab-grown bologna. I'm going to put that with some mustard on some white bread and be a happy, happy man. I'm not complicated.
So please send Hank 378 lab-grown hamburger patties. You will be a sponsor. While we're on that topic, I just want to say a quick thank you to NerdFighter Ira, who sent in... Ari.
I literally turned his name around in my head. While we're on the topic, I just want to say a quick thank you to NerdFighter Ari, who sent in 378 Dierhanken-John Keychains. I took two of them, Hank took one, and we're selling the rest. Liar.
What? I didn't take one. Oh, I reserved one for you. Baby Biom.
I reserved one for you. We're selling the rest at the dftba.com booth here at NerdConnerdFighteria to raise money for the Foundation to decrease world sex. So thank you, Ari. Also, if you spell your name backwards, it's Ira, and it anagrams to air.
Hank, we have another question that comes from Jordan who writes, Dierhanken, I am a newly born NerdFighter. Let's just pause and thank Jordan for coming out of the womb able to type. It's extraordinary. I have a three and a half year old, and she's hopeless at typing.
Now I feel like a failure as a parent, Jordan, thank you. I'm a newly born NerdFighter, and last night at dinner an interesting question was posed, is a person who grows cucumbers and makes them into pickles, a cucumber farmer, or a pickle farmer? Please answer as this is causing distress in my family. Jordan.
Wait, another sign off? No longer a fetus, Jordan. Sorry, it's no memento, I felt that I could skip it. Well, I want to give people credit for their sign off.
I like the people taking it seriously. First of all, I also like that Jordan has taken the sort of cosmic perspective of time and said, hey, look, it was not long ago. It was very recently that a person who was in their 90s was in the womb. Like, it's time and we experience it quite slowly for how quickly it passes geologically and universally.
What are you talking about? Well, I'm assuming that Jordan is not like six months old, because of Jordan's concern for the distress. Oh, so like by newly born, he means like 17. Yeah.
Because like in the scheme of geologic time, he's just been born. Yes. Right. Okay.
That's a great point. Second, yes. We are all newborns. That's true.
We're all just a bunch of babies trying to make our way in this dark and broken world. You guys give that one in the other grass, Tyson, so you can tweet it for me. And secondly, I think you are a cucumber farmer. Yeah.
Who makes pickles? Who makes pickles. Yeah, I agree. You produce pickles.
Cucumbers are your produce. If somebody asks you to party what you do, you say I make pickles. But if somebody asks you who you are, you are a cucumber farmer. You know, like if you want to take it all the way down, like, yeah.
All right. I'm glad we took that question seriously. Oh my god, it's burning. Oh my god, it's burning.
For those of you at home, don't forget. Dear John and Hank writes, Lane, I'm in the 11th grade and I'm being forced to take chemistry this year. I was a straight-A student before this, but now for the first time in my life, I'm faced with a prospect of failing a class. I feel like my world will fall apart if I do, that my parents will hate me.
I'll never get into a good college and I'll end up living under a bridge. How do I ease this anxiety and get better at a subject I hate with all my being, Memento Morrie Lane? Well, you don't have to. Just go live under a bridge.
No. Here's the thing, Lane. You're freaking out about something that like most things that you freak out about when you zoom out and think about geologic time are irrelevant. Because your life doesn't have like geologic significance.
You're just future oil, Lane. So like, and by the way, you know how that happens. Chemistry. It's true.
It's weird to think about having geologic impact. Because humans do. Humans have become the largest impact upon the geology of the Earth in the last 50 years. No, yeah.
In the parkable. We reroute rivers. We turn mountains into holes. Yeah.
We eliminate the trees from the landscape, which completely changes how erosion happens. It's shocking. Because like, of course, when I once saw a paper, it was a test. And the question on the test was geology class.
And it said, what is the greatest force in the world? And the person wrote love. When the teacher was obviously looking for water, because the hydrological cycle has a huge impact, of course. Anything gravity is the greatest force in the world?
Yeah, gravity also pulls the water downward. Which without gravity, there would be no hydrological cycle. But, but, John, but if humans have the greatest impact on the world, as I believe they do now. Yeah.
Isn't it love that made the human in the first place? Kind of. It is a right love. It's kind of love.
Yeah, it's true though. We are killing it in terms of. Actually answering questions. No geology.
And also answering questions. Here's the thing about chemistry. Don't fail. Like, so just get that, get that C minus.
Get it right where you need to be. You're still going to go to college. It's going to be okay. There's lots of colleges that don't care if you got to see minus in chemistry.
I remember my first. Take this good advice. I think it is. I think it's great.
Absolutely. Not to be as tall. Just don't fail. It's okay.
Like, it's even okay if probably okay. I mean, as long as you can get that diploma lane and you can get out of high school. And you still believe in yourself and your own worth as a human. Which is I think like one of the big problems with grades.
But obviously it's complicated. I will say that I like my first chemistry class in college. I freaked and I did very badly in like the first semester of chemistry. And I majored in biochemistry.
So obviously like that wasn't going to go. And I like it was so terrifying to and it was really the fear that was the reason. Like I couldn't get the information in because I was so freaked out about it. And it took time and like thought and like think like trying to find other ways of learning it that weren't just my teacher that were other like the book and the and the internet to find ways to to get into my head and eventually it all sort of like fell into place.
And yeah, that's the other thing. Stop being this terrifying thing that was blocking me from from enjoying it. Sometimes you just have to keep going until it starts to click in. Yeah.
And sometimes right before it starts to click in is when it feels completely hopeless. And you think I will never understand this. I am the worst chemistry student ever. And then you start to it starts to click in.
But you do have to seek out other ways of learning my suspicion lane given that you've done well in your other classes is that maybe the approach that's being taken to chemistry is not the approach that's going to be most helpful to you. And so that probably means you're going to have to seek out other approaches. I recommend Crash Course Chemistry, but there are also other ways. We got another one.
It's from Amy who asked Dear Hank and John. I've been doing very well at school lately, but to achieve all these good grades, I feel like very fake and almost as if I don't deserve them and I'm stealing somebody else's work. It's like I take my knowledge from some obscure source and then make it sound smarter. And there's my grade.
Does this happen to you too when you upload things online and answer questions? Am I just being weird? I've never done this before. So please excuse me if I say something unusual.
Thanks also. Is it rude to email? Is Twitter better? I'm freaking out.
Best wishes, Amy. I mean, there's an email address, Amy. It's Hank and John at gmail.com and it's for this specific purpose. Yeah, first of all, I just want to say in terms of doing that correctly, Amy, it was great.
Yeah, perfect. Good card living better. I love the exclamation point after your best wishes. I love that you included your name.
The only thing I disagree with is that you wrote Dear Hank and John, which seems like you could have done that a little bit better. But on the whole, I would say this is an A plus email. You even got all the punctuation correctly inside of your parentheticals. This is phenomenal.
I'm going to post this on the Patreon as an example of a top class email. So you got that going for you. Secondly, Hank, it seems to me that the process Amy is describing is called learning. Wait, so somebody tells me something and then I understand it and then I say it back in my own words because I've understood it well.
And then people are like, oh, yeah, you get that. And then they give you an A on a tester paper. Good job. That's you did school.
You did school right. I mean, I think there's something there's something else maybe going on here, which is maybe like the dawning awareness that there's a big difference between understanding what other people have already figured out and understanding something new. Yeah. But in my experience, having essentially never realized something that other people hadn't already realized before me, you can go a long way without ever figuring out anything new.
Oh, yeah. You never figured anything. No, I've literally never had a new idea. Yeah.
Brother 2.0 was entirely stolen from Zayfrank. Yeah, I was like, what if we did Zayfrank but there was two of us? Yeah. That's not really maybe a slight innovation.
Yeah. Maybe I slightly tweaked the formula to add a second person so that I would only have to make half as many videos. Yeah. Every single book I've written, I mean, my critics will be happy to tell you how derivative they are.
I mean, you guys, you guys keep going, but trust me, I've thought a lot about this and I've never thought about anything new. So, Amy, you are crushing it. And I mean, I cannot say enough about the grammar of this email. Even in the parts where the grammar is poor, it's obviously intentional, which I love.
So, Amy, just keep going. This is great. We got another question from Jamie Jones who writes, Dear John and Hank, I grew up with a number of cartoons and children's books that all contain some instance of a character traipsing, idyllically, through a field illuminated by fireflies. My question, where are all the fireflies?
I grew up in Washington State and now go to school in Southern Utah, and there aren't fireflies in either of these places. Do I have to go somewhere specific to find fireflies? Are they only native to very small portions of land in North America? Warm thoughts and warm regards, Jamie Jones.
All right, I'm just going to ask for a show of yelling. If you... Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not location. That's too soon.
Just do you have fire... If you have fireflies, please yell now. Okay, all right. And if you do not have fireflies, please yell now.
Different voices, but still a lot. Yeah, I would say that according to my scientific study, Jamie Jones, there are fireflies in approximately 60% of Earth. Oh, man. I mean, we got to get that peer review to be sure, but I think that's on.
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Never. Never. Deliver 378 of them to my PO box, please. That's asking for it.
I mean, that's... Oh, God. John. Yeah.
I think it's done to put the papers down. We're going to take some questions from our beloved listeners. Oh, I think that the lines are... The line is sufficiently long, so no one can get in line.
I'm sorry, it's your birthday. Oh, wait, what's your name? All right, everyone's just quickly saying Happy Birthday to Emily. And also, who else's birthday is it?
I mean, when there's 3500 people in a room. Okay, listen, if it is your birthday, stand up. We're about to say Happy Birthday to you. Everybody who's at your birthday, stand up.
Don't lie. We'll know. Are you sure? All right, they're sure.
All right. Everybody out there? Come with people at the top. Okay, they're up there in the corner.
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I have always struggled with the dedicating to things that I've wanted to do. Yeah. And my mom has quoted me as saying that I want to be really good at things without being bad at them first. How do I deal with that?
You know, I snowboarded for four times. And one thing I noticed about snowboarding is that not only did I hate being bad at it, but all the people on the mountain also hated me being bad at it. Right. And I was like, I don't know you guys.
Were you born with like sliding down a mountain on with like a wood strapped to your feet and like your knees locked together in this thing that's definitely going to kill you? Because like, did you never not know how to do this? And so that's one thing is I feel like we should all be more forgiving of each other sucking at stuff because like you don't start out great. And then additionally, it's really good if you can try.
Like first, I think you have to be forgiving with yourself so that you can enjoy being bad. And if you can find a way to enjoy being bad, then it doesn't matter whether you're good or not. So if you can't sing if you're like me and you're really just not a great singer, when I sing in the shower, I love singing. And it doesn't matter that I'm bad at it because I love doing it.
You have to find, for lack of a better term, like the love of the game, whatever the game is that you're playing, you've got to find that thing that makes you want to keep singing in the shower, even if you're not great. And then sometimes not in the case of my singing, but sometimes you'll get better. All right, we'll go with the left. Yeah, over there that way.
His other left. Your left. That's true, actually. Great point Hank.
It's everyone else's left. You were being very empathetic. Hello. Hi, my name's Ryan.
Hi, Ryan. It's like an AA meeting. OK, my name's actually Toleri. Disappointing.
I'm disappointed too. What are my parents? Yeah, I do. Anyway, two days before this, I was dumped.
I'm sorry. And anyway, we met online. We had everything in common. And I really, really liked her.
And she just said, she didn't feel the spark. What is the spark? I mean, if you got your answer from the audience, I think, which is maybe a bit of BS. I feel like John's back later from the Mike despite the fact that he is among us, the expert in being dumped.
Well, I'm good. I know a lot about how to be dumped. I don't know a lot about the spark. I mean, you just have to trust someone when they say that.
And it's hard to hear, but you have to let them have their life, and you have to let them have their feelings. It is not a reflection on you, although I'm sure that right now, it feels like it is. But it does not mean that you're not worthy of love or that you're not a good person. I don't think that human beings deserve much of what they get good or bad.
But I definitely think that we deserve to love and to be loved. And you are loved, and you will be loved in your life. And this is a moment when you feel probably distant from that. But it's still really deeply true.
Like you're a valuable person, and you're loved, and you will continue to be loved in your life. And I hope that's some comfort, but you can't make other people feel self as much as you maybe want to. I'm sorry, that really sucks. Back to the middle.
Hello. Hi, this is Brian. Unfortunately, there's a beat. Wow.
It's close. It's close. Close. You know, you can go to a courthouse and get that beat chopped right off.
That's one choice. Anyways, my question isn't actually for me. It's for my friend Caitlin. And she is trying to decide whether to focus on biology or English, and given your two professions and majors.
She was wondering if you could speak to that. Get yourself a self that can do both. Yeah, I mean, right. I think you're going to do more than one thing in your life.
We always weasel out of this question. And so you're going to watch us do it again. But there's this idea, especially when you're young, because you are forced to pick a major field of study. And it's hard to pick both.
I mean, you can double major in biology and English. And I know some of my friends from college, one of whom is now a very successful doctor, who is also a very good writer. But it's possible. But you're going to do more than one thing in your life.
So it's good to know about both. Ultimately, I think biology and English aren't they both trying to understand what we're doing and how we got here. It's just different approaches to the same big questions in a lot of cases. So I don't, yeah, I'm weaseling.
Yeah, definitely weasel, weasel, weasel, weasel, weasel, weasel, weasel, weasel make your own decision. Yeah. The only other thing I'd say to Caitlin is I'm going to flip this cup. And if it lands like that, that's English.
And if it lands like this, which I think is slightly more likely based on my knowledge of physics, that's biology. Because I think it's probably on average, slightly better to study biology. So here we go. Really weird.
You think either of those things are going to happen. Weasel, weasel, weasel, weasel, the cup landed on its side. She's going to have to make her own choice, unfortunately. Hello, lefties.
Hi. So I'm so happy that Brian went ahead. My name is Brianna, which also kind of has Ryan in it. Gah.
I mean, we're getting so close. Getting really close. And by the way, the first person who says the name is Ryan is definitely going to be lying. Anyway, hi Brianna.
Hi, Brianna. It's Brianna. I just go by Bri because even my loved ones call me Brianna. Sorry.
Sorry. You're not the first. OK. So my question is that I'm 19.
And I have one younger sister who is 15. I love her. Most of the time. So my question is, are there any particular issues or anything that you guys feel that urge to murder each other over?
Can I stop you real quick and just ask a follow-up question to your question? Yes. Do you mean murder literally? I mean, I've tried to hit her with things, but I'm older, so my mom told me that's not responsible.
So I mean. All right. Well, don't kill anybody. Don't kill your sister.
Or any. No, no. No, no. Great point, Hank.
Don't kill anybody. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some of our advice is dubious.
But was it more of a question about our? Yeah, that was the question. But I just wanted to check in real quick on the murder situation. I mean, have we punched each other?
I've punched you. Yeah. I mean, we were not in a while. I mean, Hank and I had a pretty intense rivalry when we were kids.
Because I was like the same size, but three years, like, less mature and younger. And looking up to him. Yeah. So I could beat him up.
But I was very, very less cognitively mature. I mean, I think, like, for me, the critical moment came when I started respecting Hank and thinking of him as a really interesting person, which was probably around the time that I was 16 or 17. And I recognized that he was a really smart, interesting guy. And after that, a lot of it felt like I was almost trying to repair.
I felt like there were some repairs that needed to be done in our relationship. But to be honest, we were not really close until Brotherhood 2.0. I mean, that's why we did it. Because we would talk on the phone maybe once every year, once every two years.
You were like AOL and some message sometimes when there was something important going on. But not even that often. Not like weekly or anything. And I just admired.
It was kind of like I admired Hank from afar. I was like, what a cool person who's technically in my nuclear family. And so when I was thinking about, oh, I would be great to do a collaborative video blog. That would be like, only girl 15 meets the show would say, Frank, because it really was just those two ideas.
I thought it would be cool. Like, what a great opportunity that might be to get close to Hank again. And since then, since January 1, 2007, we've never had a big fight. Right?
No. I mean, like, yeah, we have dealt with, I don't think we've shouted at each other. No. I mean, when we have shouted at each other, it's been about the same.
It's been an in agreement. Right. There's none of them shouting in the same room. Or we're just really worked up.
But we're on the same page. We're really shouting at someone else who's not there. We're mad. But we're mad in the same direction.
Not this way. And there have been a few times when Hank has been super annoyed with me. I remember one time at the first VidCon, he said, why are you looking at me? And I was like, what do you mean?
And he was like, put your eyes away. It was a stressful moment. But it was just stressful. And I wasn't helping.
I was like, Hank, there's a problem. And he's like, I'm aware there's a problem. And I was like, but there is a problem. And he was like, I know about the problem.
And I was like, I thought I was told to come tell you that there is a problem. And I don't know how to solve it. And then I murdered him. No.
And then the story is that in that moment, we were so tense, like more stressed out than we've been almost probably since then, except for a few occasions. And we were thinking like this VidCon thing that's going to fail. And this is the moment where it's truly going to fail. And then once the video started working, the Gregory Brothers performed an actually and literally sacred version of their song, Double Rainbow, that transported all of us out of the basement of the Hyatt Regency's Century Plaza into some like ethereal land that only beauty can take you to.
And it all worked out better than expected. I'm not really answering your question. But thank you. That was lovely.
And everybody loves Yosemite Bear. I'm going back to the middle. Hello. Hi.
My name is Stephanie. I'm not Ryan, unfortunately. I'm sorry. And I want to start by thanking you both for everything you do.
Thank you, Stephanie. Thank you. You don't know everything I do. Reminds me of mine from James Joyce, someone once walked up to him on the street and said, may I shake the hand that wrote you a series?
And he said, no, it's done a lot of other things. He was a complicated man. I'm sorry, Stephanie. What was your question?
My question is between Alexander Hamilton and Sirius Black. Who is the bigger drama queen? Contentious question. That puts us in a tight spot, Stephanie.
I mean, you're asking us to basically pit the two greatest fandoms in the world right now against each other. I asked my best friend's and I said, debate. I asked Lemon Well Miranda. He had no answer.
I can only bring it to you guys next. Reminds me of that time that John asked Barack Obama to name his child. He was like, no, I will not do that. Yeah.
Yeah, my pull of Lin-Man Well Miranda on this one. If Lin-Man Well Miranda won't answer the question, there's no way in hell I'm going to answer the question. Because my answer is literally whatever Lin-Man Well Miranda said. Hi, quality answer, John.
Thank you. Thanks for the question. Sorry. God, we are so good at weaseling.
Bring us more. We should run for office. No. Thank you, but no.
I honestly don't know if that applause is a compliment. Yeah. Yes. Hello, my name is Glenn.
Sadly, it's not Ryan. My brother's name is Ryan. If that counts for anyone. That's great.
Congratulations to him. And my issue is my girlfriend is vehemently against the idea of me going into space. She thinks it's very dangerous. I understand.
Yes, I had this experience as well when I was first dating my current wife. I know. I actually have a literal friend who may go to space, who is married and has children. I know some other people who've been to space.
And it's not a insignificant thing for the family. It is a dangerous job. Yeah, no. I think you're on the wrong side of this one.
Well, I wouldn't go there early. I wouldn't necessarily. But I do. And I take that concern seriously.