EPISODE · Sep 8, 2026 · 1H 12M
#91 How Getting Fired Built MTA Consultancy | Chris Mader
from The David Guttman Podcast · host David Guttman
He doubled a company's revenue to $150M once. Then he got called into an office and told it was his last day. If that has ever happened to you, you already know the feeling. Chris Mader ran an $85M company to $115M as interim CEO. The board had already promised him the job in writing. Then the founder needed $4M in payroll cuts, and Chris got the call anyway. I asked him how you rebuild after doing it exactly right and still losing the seat. Chris was Player of the Year in the minors. The next year he led his team in every offensive category and still got released. He turned that into MTA Consultancy, built on a rule you will recognize: he will not work for a leader he cannot believe in. You probably cannot walk away from a bad boss tomorrow. Chris built a business so he never has to again. Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you! Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS Connect with Chris Mader Get his book, “ Make the Adjustment”: https://bit.ly/4xDPGRL Listen to " Make the Adjustment Podcast " on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/4xDPHFj Spotify: https://bit.ly/4yqQWbg Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4yn1FmR Connect with Chris Mader Website: https://bit.ly/4cuYelL YouTube: https://bit.ly/4xDPHFj Instagram: https://bit.ly/4zYtOSU Facebook: https://bit.ly/3SRocsN X: https://bit.ly/4xAuzjr LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4zYzCMb Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction: excelling and still getting cut 00:18 - Choosing baseball over football as a kid 03:55 - Recruited to Rollins College against his will 06:29 - Make the adjustment: Coach Boyd Coffee 13:11 - Drafted 49th round, toughest out over Derek Jeter 16:07 - Released after leading the team in every stat 19:27 - Walking away from baseball crying at 25 22:37 - Baseball is not a meritocracy 26:02 - Rebuilding identity through sales 28:37 - Thirty years scaling companies to $115M 31:06 - Told he did nothing wrong, never works for anyone again 34:25 - Starting MTA Consultancy at 52 38:44 - Servant leadership, curiosity and humility 45:42 - How much of the CEO job is therapy 46:38 - Why 97.5 percent of people resist change 56:16 - Forty clients, only three that did not work 57:09 - Scaling toward $1M with an EA and AI 1:04:24 - Mentorship versus coaching versus discipline 1:08:00 - Why 80 percent of men say yes and half the women do 1:10:52 - Pick your boss, not the job Watch the “David Guttman Podcast” every Tuesday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4wpqfCN Connect with David Guttman Website:https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm Instagram:https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr TikTok:https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI Facebook:https://bit.ly/4y2VZze X:https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4awQRJv SUBSCRIBE TO: https://www.youtube.com/@RealDaveGuttman Download the “David Guttman Podcast” on all your favorite podcast platforms: Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3VE3fzV Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3VLzm0v
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