EPISODE · Apr 29, 2026 · 51 MIN
A 25-Year Relationship, Expressed in Three Words: How safety culture rests on wellness and connection.
from PCC Local Time
"I need help."There are conversations in local government that change how you think about leadership. This is one of them. In this episode of PCC Local Time, I sit down with Chief David Lash of Northern York County Regional Police and Chief Dave Steffen, retired chief of Northern Lancaster County Regional Police, to talk about how the idea of wellness actually converts to meaningful outcomes inside a police agency.Link to an earlier episode with Chief David Steffen on Regional PolicingBe sure to check out MuniSquare on Substack and our YouTube ChannelTIMESTAMPS:00:00 Opening: why wellness and policing are difficult to connect 02:00 A 25-year relationship: how it began 05:30 The shift in policing culture around wellness 10:00 February 2025: the UPMC shooting 13:30 Immediate response and the role of support systems 17:30 Continuity of care and leadership perspective 19:30 September 2025: the second critical incident 22:30 “Two minutes of hell”: what happened and what followed 24:30 Leadership under pressure and the role of relationships 26:30 The three-word call: “I need help” 28:30 Reframing wellness as culture, not program 29:30 Reducing stigma and normalizing support 31:00 Moving from reactive to proactive wellness 32:30 Total wellness: beyond mental health 34:00 Building access: systems, providers, and trust 36:30 Wellness and use of force: a possible connection 38:00 Mindfulness and officer buy-in 39:00 Feeling valued as a core metric 40:30 Resistance, generational differences, and adaptation 44:30 Extending wellness into the community 46:30 Budgeting for wellness as essential, not optional 48:00 Culture shift: from external image to internal strength 49:30 Closing reflections: what can be carried forward
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