A Jewish Australian lawyer reckons with state violence. Plus, can corporate scandals be good for the world?

The Melbourne legal scholar Marika Sosnowski spent many years researching violence and the law in Syria. Now she reckons with her own family's proximity to state violence in 1950s Palestine. Plus, it's easy to be cynical about the impunity of corporations that commit great financial crimes. But political scientist Pepper Culpepper thinks that, in the long run, corporate scandals can help restore democracy. Guests:Marika Sosnowski,  Melbourne University. Author of ‘58 facets – on law, violence and revolution’ (Melbourne University Publishing)Professor Pepper Culpepper, Oxford University. Co-author of Billionaire Backlash: The Age of Corporate Scandal and How It Could Save Democracy (Bloomsbury)