A Sabbatical Transformation: A Conversation with Susana Muñoz

I’ve gotten off this gerbil wheel and destroyed it and thinking about how I think about the different ways how to approach work, and being sustainable. Right. And so, I think I've also been impacted by women of color passing away and the job and thinking a lot about what I, what I want most from my life, you know, in, in this position, and I think I want to be more balanced, but also, like, understand that, you know, these institutions aren't going to love you back, you know. And so, yes, you can pour love into the institution, into your students into your work, but to be conscious of the fact that you can't pour all yourself all your spirit, you know, into it, because I think that becomes very unhealthy.