Aaron Dessner on Big Red Machine, The National’s Future, and Taylor Swift’s Lyrical Universe

Aaron Dessner catches up with Kyle Meredith to discuss How Long Do You Think It’s Gonna Last, the sophomore record with Bon Iver’s Justin Vernon in the band Big Red Machine.  The producer/songwriter takes us through the process of bringing in more friends for this album, including Sharon Van Etten and Taylor Swift, and how the set came to focus on themes of mental health, depression, and family dynamics, especially on a song written for the late Frightened Rabbit frontman Scott Hutchinson.  On working with T-Swift, Dessner talks about the process of collaborating with the mega-star and how her lyrical universe finds its way into the songs they write together. As a co-founder of The National, we also get a glimpse into that band's future, when they may reconvene, and how much he considers them his main project these days. Don’t forget to subscribe to Kyle Meredith With…, and be sure to follow the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp and use my code betterhelp.com for a great deal: https://www.betterhelp.com* Check out BetterHelp and use my code betterhelp.com for a great deal: https://www.betterhelp.com* Check out MyBookie and use my code KYLEM for a great deal: https://www.mybookie.agAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy