Abigail Miller and Micol Ap: sustainability, growth and long-term thinking

00:20 - Welcome Abigail Miller and Micol01:07 - Micol’s journey into digital art and NFTs02:20 - From corporate to crypto art04:12 - Expectations and burnout05:26 - Abigail’s background06:26 - The Fulbright program, Russia and cultural diplomacy 09:32 - Crypto roots and art school11:07 - Space struggles and growth14:25 - Echo chamber and reset18:46 - Financialization vs. experimentation21:28 - Changes in identity, fame and cultural experience23:54 - Art Basel Miami and Zero10 27:11 - The missing middle ground for artists30:53 - Avant Arte operations36:01 - Artists, curators and different value propositions40:41 - Industry challenges behind the scenes 41:33 - Vertical’s hard lessons45:10 - Building in public45:36 - Feeling on the periphery of the community47:46 - Women going quiet49:18 - Social media burnout56:09 - Beyond Twitter, IRLs and mailing lists 58:09 - Why female artists tend to be under represented  01:06:05 - Bro culture and access01:10:24 - Sustainability and long-term thinking 01:12:37 - Women supporting women01:22:03 - Checks, balances and ensuring growth https://x.com/micolmicolmicol https://x.com/proofofgailhttps://x.com/avant_arte