EPISODE · Aug 17, 2026 · 2H 51M
Abolish The Police? Retired REDDOG Zoel Murphy
from Two Cops One Donut · host Sgt. Erik Lavigne & Zoel Murphy
A retired Atlanta Police Sergeant shows up with a sentence that stops the room: “We don’t need the police anymore.” Then he does the harder thing, he explains exactly why he believes that and what he thinks should replace the current system. Zole “Red Dog” Murphy joins us from Vietnam to unpack a 20-year career that ran through patrol, the RED DOG (Run Every Drug Dealer Out Of Georgia)unit, gangs, and SWAT, and the moments that forced him to question what policing actually delivers versus what it claims to be.We get specific about the culture civilians rarely hear described plainly: beat integrity, stacking calls to keep control of your area, the career rush toward specialized units, and the quiet reality of quotas and performance pressure even when departments swear they don’t exist. Murphy walks through constitutional fault lines around stops, searches, and detentions, then revisits the Eagle nightclub raid and what happens when aggressive units are placed in sensitive environments with poor briefing and worse supervision. From there, the conversation turns to disproportionate enforcement, leadership incentives, and how “good cops” can still be trapped inside a structure that punishes dissent.We also spend time on solutions. Murphy argues that the accountability chain in many cities is too short and too political, and he lays out why elected sheriffs could give communities real leverage. We dig into modern oversight tools like ALPR and Flock cameras, why misuse keeps surfacing, and why transparency and criminal consequences matter more than polished press conferences. We even touch on why he left the US, what Vietnam taught him about safety and community, and how that experience reshaped his views.Subscribe for more hard conversations with real stakes, share this with someone who argues about policing online, and leave a review if you want more guests like Murph. What would real accountability look like where you live?send us a message! [email protected] the showPlease see our Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoCopsOneDonut Join our Discord!! https://discord.gg/BdjeTEAc *Send us a message! [email protected]🔗 Visit us at TwoCopsOneDonut.com & https://www.thedonut.tv/📧 Contact us at [email protected] 🎧 Subscribe to us on Apple, Spotify, and Amazon Music at “2 Cops 1 Donut”Donate Here: https://buymeacoffee.com/twocopsonedonut 🔔 *Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe for more insightful discussions on law enforcement and community safety!* 💬 *Join the conversation in the comments below!*#TwoCopsOneDonut #PublicSafety #ErikLavigne #firtsresponders Our partners: Ghost Patch: tell them Two Cops One Donut sent you and get free shipping on Flex Shield orders! GhostPatchCustoms.com Insight LPR license plate recognition technology provides 24/7 real-time insight for homes, businesses and neighborhoods. Protect what matters most! Visit https://insightlpr.com/ Retro Rifle: Official Clothing of Two Cops One Donut. Hawaiian Shirts, Guns, and Pop-Culture! head to Retro-Rifle.com tell them we sent ya!
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A retired Atlanta Police Sergeant shows up with a sentence that stops the room: “We don’t need the police anymore.” Then he does the harder thing, he explains exactly why he believes that and what he thinks should replace the current system. Zole “Red Dog” Murphy joins us from Vietnam to unpack a 20-year career that ran through patrol, the RED DOG (Run Every Drug Dealer Out Of Georgia)unit, gangs, and SWAT, and the moments that forced him to question what policing actually delivers versus wha...
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