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EPISODE · Jan 24, 2026 · 30 MIN

AGI Timelines, Claude's Soul, AI Calls Cops on Doritos: The AI Argument EP86

from The AI Argument · host Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery

Dario Amodei says AGI arrives in one to two years. Demis Hassabis says five to ten. Both want to slow down, but would Elon? Would China?Meanwhile, Anthropic released Claude's Constitution - the document some called its "soul." The document states that Anthropic doesn't know if Claude is conscious, but it seems they care enough to act as if it just might be.Plus: OpenAI might run out of money in 18 months, Elon and Sam argue about whose product has killed more people, and AI surveillance calls armed police on students eating Doritos.Tell us in the comments: is a slow down remotely possible? 00:54 Are Dario and Demis actually disagreeing on AGI?12:34 Does OpenAI really have just 18 months left?15:41 Does Claude have a soul now?24:28 Who killed more people, ChatGPT or Tesla?28:00 Why did AI call the cops over a bag of Doritos?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our podcast to stay updated on all things marketing and AI.► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDThe Day After AGIThis Is What Convinced Me OpenAI Will Run Out of MoneyClaude’s ConstitutionMusk And Altman Clash Over AI Safety After Musk Says ‘Don’t Let Your Loved Ones Use ChatGPT’Student handcuffed after Doritos bag mistaken for a gun by school's AI security systemAI Sends School Into Lockdown After It Mistook a Student’s Clarinet for a Gun► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect with Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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Dario Amodei says AGI arrives in one to two years. Demis Hassabis says five to ten. Both want to slow down, but would Elon? Would China? Meanwhile, Anthropic released Claude's Constitution - the document some called its "soul." The document states that Anthropic doesn't know if Claude is conscious, but it seems they care enough to act as if it just might be. Plus: OpenAI might run out of money in 18 months, Elon and Sam argue about whose product has killed more people, and AI surveillance c...

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