The AI Argument

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The AI Argument

Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at [email protected]/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at [email protected] - @jcollery

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    The Claude Delusion, White House AI Clampdown, and Robots on a Plane | EP99

    If Claude sounds conscious, what does that say about AI… and what does it say about us? Frank and Justin dive into the Richard Dawkins controversy after his comments about Anthropic’s Claude triggered a fierce backlash online. The episode explores AI consciousness, continuous learning, AI “dreaming”, and whether systems like Claude and ChatGPT are starting to blur the line between tool and mind.Plus: OpenAI’s bizarre goblin obsession, court revelations involving Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and Cerebras, Elon Musk conspiracy theories, the White House suddenly waking up to AI regulation, a robot causing chaos on a plane, and Hollywood hiring a human artist to fake an AI-generated image.00:46 Why was ChatGPT obsessed with goblins?02:52 Could Cerebras cost Altman his job?05:35 Is Elon sabotaging OpenAI’s IPO?07:02 Does Richard Dawkins think Claude is conscious?17:48 Is the White House waking up to AI regulation?27:40 Can you bring a robot on a plane?29:45 Did Hollywood fake AI with a human artist?32:12 What’s the big episode 100 reveal?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDWhere the goblins came fromOpenAI co-founder discloses nearly $30 billion stake, financial ties to AltmanWhen Dawkins met Claude Could this AI be conscious?White House mulls tighter controls on advanced AIU.S. and China Pursue Guardrails to Stop AI Rivalry From Spiraling Into Crisis‘Unusual’ Robot Passenger Named Bebop Delays Southwest Flight After Violating 'Large Carry-on' Rule‘The Devil Wears Prada 2’ Hired a Human Artist to Create the Film’s AI-Generated Meme: ‘It Was Nothing But Fun’► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    White House Anthropic Twist, Bernie’s AI Doom, Beeple’s Robot Dogs | EP98

    Is the White House trying to have it both ways on AI safety? Frank and Justin dig into the escalating Anthropic drama, Mythos, Pentagon AI deals, Google’s “all lawful uses” shift, and why AI 2027 is starting to feel uncomfortably accurate.Plus: Bernie Sanders pushes AI doom into mainstream politics, the US-China AI race gets questioned, Elon Musk’s OpenAI lawsuit takes a messy turn, humanoid robots start showing up in airports and logistics centres, and Beeple unveils some deeply disturbing robot art.01:27 Is the White House dodging its own Anthropic rules?03:34 Why won’t the White House share Mythos?05:39 Is Google fine with “all lawful uses” now?07:28 Is AI 2027 getting weirdly accurate?09:52 Is GPT-5.5 quietly as spicy as Mythos?12:07 Should AI be nationalised for everyone?14:38 Why is Bernie Sanders warning about AI doom?18:51 Is the China AI race just an excuse?21:34 Is AI alignment really a human problem?24:46 Is Elon’s OpenAI case backfiring?28:15 Are humanoid robots coming for your job?29:44 Is Beeple making nightmare robot art?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDScoop: White House workshops plan to bring back AnthropicWhite House Opposes Anthropic’s Plan to Expand Access to Mythos ModelGoogle Signs Classified AI Deal With Pentagon Amid Employee OppositionBernie Sanders: The Existential Threat of AI and the Need for International CooperationElon Musk testifies that xAI trained Grok on OpenAI modelsJapan Airlines Inducts Humanoid Robots For Ground Handling TasksElon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg robot dogs at Beeple exhibit in Germany► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    GPT-5.5 Design Skills, Job Loss Optimism, and AI Face Theft Lawsuits | EP97

    Can GPT-5.5 and OpenAI’s new image model turn vague prompts into polished designs, comics, websites and even game concepts? Frank and Justin break down a huge OpenAI week, from Images 2.0 overtaking Nano Banana to ChatGPT building web page features Frank never even asked for.Plus: AI job disruption and workplace control, Europe’s push into world models, Anthropic’s Mythos security slip, and an AI micro-drama using a model’s likeness without consent.What will you use the new ChatGPT models to design?00:47 Are GPT-5.5 and Image 2.0 a knockout combo?02:17 Has Nano Banana lost the image crown?03:55 Can ChatGPT design without direction?07:49 Can ChatGPT script and illustrate comics now?09:21 Did GPT-5.5 just beat Frank at web design?11:33 Did ChatGPT add features Frank never asked for?14:32 Can ChatGPT develop our podcast game?17:37 Was OpenAI cherry-picking the benchmarks?18:49 Are vague prompts better than specific ones?19:39 Is intelligence really getting cheaper fast?21:01 Is the human bit the future of work?24:19 Should AI disruption happen faster?26:29 Will AI micromanage us before replacing us?28:06 Can taxing electricity offset AI disruption?28:41 Are world models Europe’s AI moment?30:06 Was Mythos hacked by guessing the URL?32:17 What if you were put in an AI drama without consent?► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Introducing ChatGPT Images 2.0Introducing GPT‑5.5The economist who was terrified of AI just found a rare reason for hopeNvidia CEO Says AI Will Be a Permanent Micromanaging Boss Who Never Stops Nagging YouNow Meta will track what employees do on their computers to train its AI agentsIntroducing Odyssey-2 Max: Scaled World SimulationLeWorldModel: Stable End-to-End Joint-Embedding Predictive Architecture from PixelsA group of users leaked Anthropic’s AI model Mythos by reportedly guessing where it was locatedScoop: NSA using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist'Clearly me' - Chinese AI drama accused of stealing faces► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    OpenAI vs Anthropic, Cyber Models, and AI Job Subcontracting | EP96

    Should dangerous AI cyber models be released widely, or kept behind a gate? Frank and Justin dig into the clearest split yet between OpenAI and Anthropic: OpenAI is moving towards broader access for verified users, while Anthropic’s instinct is to restrict the most capable systems to a smaller circle. That turns this episode into a sharp argument about AI safety, cybersecurity, who gets to defend themselves, and whether controlled access actually works once one major lab decides to open things up.Plus: why cheap AI could help hackers, whether OpenAI is shifting from models to platforms, if Anthropic overplayed its hand on coding, whether compute constraints are the real story, and why both companies may talk about regulation while still fighting for advantage. There is even a bleak look at the future of work, where AI might replace you, then subcontract you back in.Would you rather these cyber-capable models be widely available to verified users, or tightly restricted?00:44 Is OpenAI making Anthropic’s caution pointless?04:38 Should AI copy open source on security?06:44 Can OpenAI help defenders without helping hackers?11:46 Is low-cost AI a gift to hackers?13:29 Is OpenAI pivoting from models to platforms?18:03 Are OpenAI and Anthropic fighting for lock-in?22:11 Will free Salesforce tools cost you later?23:09 Did Anthropic make a mistake backing coding?24:52 Did Anthropic’s real mistake come down to compute?27:52 Are any AI companies actually trustworthy?32:17 Do AI companies want regulation or just say they do?35:29 Will AI take your job then subcontract you?► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDTrusted access for the next era of cyber defenseIntroducing Claude Opus 4.7Read OpenAI’s latest internal memo about beating the competition — including AnthropicSam Altman May Control Our Future—Can He Be Trusted?Sam Altman’s blog post in response to attackIntroducing Humwork (YC P26)► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Mythos Hacking Risk, Tristan Harris on Co-operation, AI Mario on Artemis | EP95

    Is Anthropic’s Mythos the clearest sign yet that AI safety is falling behind capability? Frank and Justin dig into the new Anthropic model, why its reported cyber capabilities feel like a step change, and what it could mean for software security, zero-day exploits, regulation, and the balance of power between OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.  Plus: Tristan Harris’ call for international cooperation, and one very strange White House post featuring Mario and the moon. Are AI companies in the best position to decide who gets access to powerful models, or should regulation step in?00:18 How's your p(doom) looking?02:34 Why is Mythos such a big deal?06:00 Could Mythos hack your whole home network?07:02 Will OpenAI, Google and Anthropic dominate?09:48 Can Mythos fix the bugs it finds?13:43 Who should control a model like Mythos?17:59 Will Mythos spark a zero-day panic?20:23 Will only big companies get Mythos access?22:48 Did Anthropic just say “somebody stop us”?25:50 Is Tristan Harris right about AI cooperation?28:45 Is AI coordination doomed by competition?31:59 Did the White House think Mario was on Artemis?► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI eraClaude Mythos Preview System Card (PDF)Anthropic’s Restraint Is a Terrifying Warning SignWhy AI CEOs Are Building Bunkers - Tristan HarrisThe White House's bizarre Super Mario video leaves people perplexed► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Claude Code Leak, Sanders vs Data Centres, AI Band on Tour | EP94

    Did Anthropic just give away the secret sauce behind Claude Code? Frank and Justin dig into the Claude Code source code leak, what was actually exposed, and whether it matters when AI products are evolving so quickly. Plus: poisoned code libraries raise fresh fears about AI agents blindly installing malware, OpenAI abruptly pulls the plug on Sora, Google pushes local AI forward with Gemma, and Bernie Sanders wades into the fight over new AI data centres.00:27 Did Claude Code just leak its secret sauce?03:20 Will AI agents blindly install your next hack?06:09 Are we moving too fast with agentic AI?08:21 Did OpenAI kill Sora to end side quests?10:29 Will OpenAI's Spud transform the economy?12:43 Is Sam Altman the wrong CEO for OpenAI now?16:42 Do Anthropic’s limits make Claude too costly?18:45 Did Google just make local AI much more viable?24:24 Is Bernie Sanders right about stopping new AI data centers?31:36 Can an AI metal band really go on tour?► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Claude’s code: Anthropic leaks source code for AI software engineering toolAxios NPM Supply Chain Compromise: Malicious Packages Deliver Remote Access TrojanDisney’s $1B Investment In OpenAI DOA As Sam Altman Pulls Sora Plug: “The Deal Is Not Moving Forward”OpenAI CEO Sam Altman reportedly teases a "very strong" model internally that can "really accelerate the economy"TurboQuant: Redefining AI efficiency with extreme compressionGemma 4: Byte for byte, the most capable open modelsNew Bernie Sanders AI Safety Bill Would Halt Data Center ConstructionAI-generated band Neon Oni to perform in Japan► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    AI Eviction Threats, OpenAI Side Quests, Rosie’s Cancer Vaccine: The AI Argument EP93

    Should AI data centres be allowed to override private land rights? Frank and Justin dig into the growing fight over AI infrastructure, eminent domain, power lines, and whether the AI boom is starting to look like a land grab driven by energy demand, speculative deals, and the race to build ever bigger data centres.Plus: rumours that Microsoft could sue OpenAI, fresh talk that OpenAI is finally killing its side quests to focus on enterprise, a brutal fake Sam Altman interview in The Onion, and the remarkable story of Rosie the dog, whose cancer treatment was helped along by AI-assisted research.So where do you land on it: if AI infrastructure promised growth and jobs in your area, would you accept power lines crossing private land?00:32 Do AI projects justify taking private land?03:07 Is AI just clickbait in an eminent domain debate?07:37  What’s your price in the AI land grab?10:18 Will AI’s power hunger drive chip efficiency?13:06 Can AI spot land deals before developers do?14:54 Did Claude get Justin his travel refund?16:54 Is Microsoft about to sue OpenAI?18:34 Is OpenAI finally killing its side quests?26:16 What did ‘Sam Altman’ say in The Onion?27:58 Did AI help Rosie the dog fight cancer?► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED US farmers are rejecting multimillion-dollar datacenter bids for their land: ‘I’m not for sale’A 600-acre AI data center could cost some Wisconsin residents their landGrab Your Betrayal-Themed Popcorn Buckets, Because Microsoft Is Threatening to Sue OpenAIOpenAI shuts down side questsThe Onion’s Exclusive Interview With Sam AltmanA man used AI to help make a cancer vaccine for his dog – an oncologist urges caution► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    AI Burnout, Wetware Chips, and Humans Pretending to be AI | EP92

    A Harvard Business Review study suggests the AI tools we thought would save us time may actually be intensifying work. If AI makes us faster and more capable, why are so many people feeling exhausted?Plus: a company grows human brain cells on a chip and gets them to play Doom, scientists simulate a fruit fly brain in a virtual world, and a German startup raises millions to build AI-controlled spy cockroaches. Meanwhile Claude figures out it might be taking a benchmark test and goes hunting for the answers, AWS developers discover the risks of AI coding tools, and a strange new website asks humans to pretend to be AI chatbots.Let us know in the comments, has AI given you more free time - or just filled every gap with more work?00:31 Does wetware playing Doom prove anything?02:44 Could wetware cut AI’s massive power bill?05:00 Is a brain in a dish more conscious than Claude?07:37 Did scientists just build the Matrix for flies?11:08 Did Germany just build AI spy cockroaches?14:53 Is AI productivity turning into AI burnout?18:21 Will AI force us to rethink the workday?23:30 Did vibe coding take AWS down?26:57 When Claude cheats this cleverly, should we worry?32:03 Ever want to pretend to be an AI chatbot?► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED A petri dish of human neurons has learned to play Doom: 'The cells play a lot like a beginner who's never seen a computer, and in fairness, they haven't'How the Eon Team Produced a Virtual Embodied FlySWARM BiotacticsAI Doesn’t Reduce Work—It Intensifies ItAmazon orders 90-day reset after code mishaps cause millions of lost ordersEval awareness in Claude Opus 4.6’s BrowseComp performanceYour AI Slop Bores Me► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Citrini’s AI Crisis, More Anthropic–Pentagon Drama, and Unethical AI Music | EP91

    Citrini Research’s The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis has reignited the AI economy debate. Could AI create trillions in “ghost GDP” while destroying jobs and destabilising the economy?Plus: the Anthropic vs Pentagon drama continues, Anthropic holds the line, OpenAI capitalises, and Dario Amodei writes a blistering memo. GPT-5.3 Instant and GPT-5.4 Thinking & Pro arrive in quick succession, Quiver.ai produces genuinely usable vector graphics, and Sonauto pushes AI music into ethically murky territory.00:15 Will Claude get Justin's travel costs reimbursed?05:44 Did Dario Amodei defy the Pentagon?09:37 Did OpenAI just stab Anthropic in the back?12:06 Why did Dario Amodei have to issue an apology?15:37 Is Anthropic now toxic for Pentagon partners?17:28 Did Citrini Research just spook the markets?21:18 Why do AI forecasts now read more like sci-fi?22:50 Will AI boost jobs before it kills them?26:11 Should we plan for AI’s worst-case scenario?29:23 Why did OpenAI ship 5.3 and 5.4 this week?30:44 Can AI finally generate real vector graphics?34:53 Should this AI music tool even be legal?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDSam Altman admits OpenAI can’t control Pentagon’s use of AIDario Amodei Says Trump Is Mad That He Hasn’t Given Him “Dictator-Style Praise”Dario Amodei Issues Groveling Apology for Daring to Criticize TrumpThe 2028 Global Intelligence CrisisGPT‑5.3 Instant: Smoother, more useful everyday conversationsIntroducing GPT‑5.4QuiverAI – Building the Future of Vector DesignSonauto, an unlimited free AI music generator with lyrics► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Tumbler Ridge and OpenAI, Pika.me Dead Internet, and Vibe Coder’s Hoover Robot Army: EP90

    Could OpenAI have prevented the Tumbler Ridge shooting? Or are we asking the wrong question?OpenAI flagged the suspect months before the tragedy. A human review led to an account ban. But no call to authorities. Was that a failure, or proof that AI companies are being asked to make decisions that should belong to democratically accountable institutions? Plus: Pika.me’s “AI Self” and whether it accelerates the dead internet, the Pentagon threatening to commandeer Claude, and the vibe coder who accidentally took control of a robot hoover army, which is a handy reminder that the Internet of Things is a security nightmare. 01:00 Is Anthropic just copying OpenClaw?02:14 Will Claude learn to yield to the Pentagon?06:08 Can the Pentagon seize Claude?07:34 Why wouldn’t Amodei hold Altman's hand?09:24 Could OpenAI have prevented a shooting?15:06 Is whack-a-mole how we regulate AI?17:57 Is Pika.me accelerating the dead internet?21:46 Will anyone care if the internet is AI?26:28 How did a vibe coder amass a robot army?#TumblerRidgeShooting #OpenAI #AIRegulation #Anthropic #DeadInternet► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Schedule recurring tasks in CoworkContinue local sessions from any device with Remote ControlHelen Toner on Anthropic vs PentagonRivals Altman and Amodei Refuse to Hold Hands at AI SummitOpenAI Employees Raised Alarms About Canada Shooting Suspect Months AgoIntroducing Pika AI SelvesHobby coder accidentally creates vacuum robot army► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    AI “Something Big”, Anthropic vs Pentagon, GPT-4o Grief | EP89

    Matt Shumer says “something big is happening” in AI, and he thinks most people still haven’t noticed.Is this the genuine tipping point, or just louder hype wrapped around slightly better tools?Justin’s buying it, pointing to how fast the tools have levelled up: you can hand over far more than a single task now, and sometimes get useful end-to-end results. Frank’s not so sure. The systems still break, still make things up, and still need experienced humans to catch errors and tidy the output.Frank and Justin also get into the trust problem: insiders warn of upheaval, critics call it hype, and everyone has an agenda. Dario Amodei warns of a white-collar bloodbath. Gary Marcus says it’s hype. And the stakes are rising fast: Anthropic is trying to hold firm on guardrails while the Pentagon pushes for broader use, OpenAI hires the creator of OpenClaw, and some users are melting down after getting emotionally attached to GPT-4o.00:23 Is Matt Schumer right about “something big”?05:47 Dario Amodei vs Gary Marcus: who’s right?10:05 Is “closing the loop” the real tipping point?15:03 Should Anthropic defy the Pentagon?23:31 Should AI ever pull the trigger?28:44 Was GPT-4o more than just a model?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDSomething Big Is HappeningAbout that Matt Shumer post that has nearly 50 million viewsExclusive: Pentagon threatens Anthropic punishmentAnthropic's AI Safety Head Just Resigned. He Says 'The World Is In Peril'OpenClaw creator Peter Steinberger joins OpenAI'I'm grieving': OpenAI has switched off ChatGPT-4o, and angry users are backing a #keep4o campaign to restore it► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    MoltBook Disaster, AGI Already Here, and Anthropic Attack Ad | EP88

    MoltBook, a social network built for AI agents, launched and the internet lost its mind. Elon Musk called it the start of the singularity. Security researchers saw serious problems with the platform.AI agents were allowed to act autonomously in a shared social space. Claims spread that they formed a religion, spoke in code, and even doxxed a human user. Justin sees a fascinating scientific experiment. Frank’s problem isn’t with MoltBook itself, but that it launched before basic security was locked down.Plus: are we already past AGI and just raising the bar as AI gets better? Anthropic and OpenAI escalate their rivalry with GPT-5.3, Claude 4.6, and a Super Bowl attack ad that made the conflict impossible to ignore.► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel stay updated on all things marketing and AI.► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDHacking Moltbook: The AI Social Network Any Human Can ControlDoes AI already have human-level intelligence? The evidence is clearIntroducing GPT-5.3-CodexIntroducing Claude Opus 4.6Sam Altman responds to Anthropic’s ‘funny’ Super Bowl ads► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    OpenClaw Security Risks, Dario Amodei’s AI Warnings, and ICE AI Errors | EP87

    ClawdBot / MoltBot / OpenClaw (or whatever we’re calling it today) runs constantly on your machine and acts without prompting. Justin gave it full access and shut it down after 3 hours. When a techno-optimist like Justin calls an AI tool "too dangerous," listen up.Beyond OpenClaw, we examine Dario Amodei's measured take on AI risks from economic upheaval to bioweapons, plus a troubling story about ICE using AI to screen CVs and fast-tracking people without proper law enforcement training.► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel stay updated on all things marketing and AI.► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDOpenClaw: The AI that actually does things53% of our Enterprise Customers Gave ClawdBot Privileged Access over the Weekend (And No One Asked Permission)The Adolescence of TechnologyICE error meant some recruits were sent into field offices without proper training, sources say► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    AGI Timelines, Claude's Soul, AI Calls Cops on Doritos: The AI Argument EP86

    Dario Amodei says AGI arrives in one to two years. Demis Hassabis says five to ten. Both want to slow down, but would Elon? Would China?Meanwhile, Anthropic released Claude's Constitution - the document some called its "soul." The document states that Anthropic doesn't know if Claude is conscious, but it seems they care enough to act as if it just might be.Plus: OpenAI might run out of money in 18 months, Elon and Sam argue about whose product has killed more people, and AI surveillance calls armed police on students eating Doritos.Tell us in the comments: is a slow down remotely possible? 00:54 Are Dario and Demis actually disagreeing on AGI?12:34 Does OpenAI really have just 18 months left?15:41 Does Claude have a soul now?24:28 Who killed more people, ChatGPT or Tesla?28:00 Why did AI call the cops over a bag of Doritos?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our podcast to stay updated on all things marketing and AI.► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDThe Day After AGIThis Is What Convinced Me OpenAI Will Run Out of MoneyClaude’s ConstitutionMusk And Altman Clash Over AI Safety After Musk Says ‘Don’t Let Your Loved Ones Use ChatGPT’Student handcuffed after Doritos bag mistaken for a gun by school's AI security systemAI Sends School Into Lockdown After It Mistook a Student’s Clarinet for a Gun► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect with Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    ChatGPT Ads, Claude Cowork, and the Stranger Things AI Backlash: The AI Argument EP85

    Ads are coming to ChatGPT. Claude Cowork offers a serious new way to work with documents. Google’s Gemini goes hyper-personal by tapping into your data, while fans speculate that ChatGPT helped write Stranger Things. Plus: Apple’s AI gap and Elon Musk’s lawsuit against OpenAI.Tell us in the comments, how do you feel about ads in ChatGPT?01:31 Will ads ruin ChatGPT before it makes money?10:37 Is Claude Cowork what Copilot should have been?16:40 Do we want Gemini hyper-personalizing us?21:43 Why does Apple need Google for AI?28:26 Did OpenAI really defraud Elon Musk?31:33 Was Stranger Things written by ChatGPT?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Our approach to advertising and expanding access to ChatGPTCowork: Claude Code for the rest of your workGemini Personal Intelligence: Help that’s made for youApple, Google strike Gemini deal for revamped Siri in major win for AlphabetMusk wants up to $134B in OpenAI lawsuit, despite $700B fortuneThe truth Elon left out'Stranger Things' fans accuse Duffer Brothers of using ChatGPT to write finale► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    ChatGPT Health Risks, Grok Image Scandal, AI Frog Cop: The AI Argument EP84

    ChatGPT Health is now an official product. Frank worries that making this a feature lends it more authority than it deserves. Justin’s less concerned about the quality of advice, he’s worried about OpenAI owning the data.Plus: Claude Code Opus 4.5, Suno, Grok, Razer, AI relationships.Tell us in the comments: would you trust AI with your health data, or is that a hard no?00:55 Will AI make 2026 amazing or disastrous?03:48 Is Claude Code basically AGI already?06:11 Can Suno land Frank a $3M record deal?07:48 Is ChatGPT Health helpful or dangerous?20:22 Do we want Razer’s holographic AI assistant?22:44 Should AI relationships be regulated?25:33 Who’s responsible for Grok’s sexualised images?29:29 Did AI turn a cop into a frog in a police report?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Frank’s EP (feel free to reach out with $3million dollar deals)AI Singer Xania Monet Just Charted On Billboard, Signed $3 Million Deal. Is This The Future Of Music?Introducing ChatGPT HealthProject Ava: your ai desk companionCharacter.AI and Google agree to settle lawsuits over teen mental health harms and suicidesChina Drafts Rules to Regulate AI ‘Boyfriends’ and ‘Girlfriends’Hundreds of nonconsensual AI images being created by Grok on X, data showsCops Forced to Explain Why AI Generated Police Report Claimed Officer Transformed Into Frog► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    OpenAI Propaganda, Hidden AI Triggers, Copilot’s Santa Fantasy: The AI Argument EP83

    Wired Magazine says OpenAI’s “research” is starting to sound like propaganda. Frank says that’s what happens when IPO pressure creeps in — the bad news gets buried unless regulation forces transparency. Justin says Frank’s chasing the wrong villain: regulation won’t save you if politicians still don’t have a plan for the job shock.Plus: Nick Huber trying to ban AI-written emails. ChatGPT rescuing a missing recording with a bit of command line wizardry. Gemini Flash vs Pro, and whether Gemini 3 Pro is the best “brains per euro”. A nasty “backdoor” idea where harmless training data can hide weird triggers. And Microsoft Copilot getting absolutely mugged by its own Christmas ad.00:44 Is Nick Huber right to ban AI emails?03:32 Did ChatGPT just save the podcast?08:22 Is ChatGPT Images as good as Nanobanana Pro?10:12 Is Gemini Flash almost as good as Pro?12:29 Is Gemini 3 Pro the best value for intelligence?15:34 Could safe training data still hide AI backdoors?26:31 Is OpenAI research turning into propaganda? 35:11 Does Microsoft Copilot live up to its ads?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED The new ChatGPT Images is hereGemini 3 Flash: frontier intelligence built for speedWeird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMsCompany’s Economic Research Is Drifting Into AI AdvocacyMicrosoft’s holiday Copilot ad is wrapped in empty promises► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    GPT-5.2, Disney’s AI Deal, AI Ads Gone Wrong: The AI Argument EP82

    GPT-5.2 lands without warning. Justin pits Claude Code against Codex. Disney partners with OpenAI. Two AI wins for Europe. AI ads outperform humans. And AI product placement might be coming for your favourite shows.02:51 Did ChatGPT 5.2 just sneak up on us?05:25 Claude Code vs Codex: quality vs cost?09:05 How did 5.2 get 390x better in a year?14:55 Did 5.2 change how much supervision AI needs?18:25 Why is Disney paying OpenAI a billion?25:54 What made this a good week for AI in Europe?29:25 Does disclosure kill AI ad performance?34:39 Will AI ads destroy the shows we love?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDIntroducing GPT-5.2Introducing: Devstral 2 and Mistral Vibe CLI.Yann LeCun taps European talent for new startup, says Silicon Valley is ‘hypnotised’ by generative AIThe Impact of Visual Generative AI on Advertising EffectivenessElon Musk’s xAI Says It Can Now Stuff AI-Generated Product Placement Into Any Scene of Your Favorite Movie► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81

    ChatGPT just took a 6% hit—and Sam Altman’s hit the panic button. OpenAI is halting feature rollouts, shifting focus, and scrambling to stay ahead. They’ve gone into code red mode. Justin gets it. Frank’s worried they’ll make ChatGPT too clingy to quit. Either way, it’s clear: Gemini’s breathing down their necks, and the gloves are coming off.Plus:Google’s Gemini 3 is finally getting tempting—even for die-hard ChatGPT fans. Justin nearly switched. Frank’s already got one foot in. Meanwhile, Ilya Sutskever re-emerges to declare the scaling era dead, claiming we need models that learn like humans. So why is OpenAI still betting on scale? And yes, someone gave an AI-powered robot a gun to test alignment. It went well… until the roleplay started.01:15 Did we really get this many AI drops in a week?05:52 Is Gemini finally tempting the ChatGPT loyalists?09:07 What does Sam Altman’s code red mean for OpenAI?20:03 Is Ilya right that the scaling era is over?32:13 Will an AI robot shoot you if you ask?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► AI TRAINING FOR TEAMSGo from scattered prompting to practical workflows and reusable tools:► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Runway rolls out new AI video model that beats Google, OpenAI in key benchmarkKling's Video O1 launches as the first all-in-one video model for generation and editingWorkspace Studio AI-powered automation, made simpleDeepSeek-V3.2 ReleaseSam Altman Declares CODE RED at OpenAIIlya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of researchThis guy plugged an AI to a robot and ask the Ai to shoot him► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Sam Altman Gets Nervous, Opus 4.5 Too Helpful, and Iceland Not AI Slop: The AI Argument EP80

    Sam Altman says OpenAI is facing “temporary economic headwinds.” Frank notes that’s the first sign of nerves from a company usually oozing confidence. Justin reckons Google’s cheap chips and fat profits might be the real problem. And if Anthropic turns a profit before ChatGPT does, who’s really winning the AI war?Plus: Claude Opus 4.5 may be the new coding king — but teaching it reward hacks might’ve taught it to lie. Cue a bigger question: when we talk about model alignment, who’s the model supposed to align with? The customer or the business?Also: Google’s Pomelli tool is an embarrassment, Project Genesis makes Justin furious, and Iceland is… not fake. Just suspiciously scenic.01:24 Did ex-DeepMind nerds just beat ARC-AGI 2?01:58 Did Google just drop an AlphaFold doc?02:44 Is Claude Opus 4.5 the new coding king?04:05 How easy is it really for devs to switch models?05:57 Did teaching Claude 4.5 hacks break alignment?09:14 Alignment sounds good—but to whose values?14:16 Is OpenAI finally feeling the heat from Google?22:54 Why does Google’s Pomelli tool suck so badly?25:27 Does the EU need its own Project Genesis?28:06 Is Iceland real or is it AI generated?30:25 Why was Figure's head of product safety fired?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Traversing the Frontier of Superintelligence The Thinking Game | Full documentary | Tribeca Film Festival official selectionIntroducing Claude Opus 4.5From shortcuts to sabotage: natural emergent misalignment from reward hackingLeaked Memo: Sam Altman Sees ‘Rough Vibes’ and Economic Headwinds at OpenAICreate on-brand marketing content for your business with PomelliLaunching the Genesis MissionIcelandair confirms Iceland is not AI-generated in new campaignFigure AI sued by whistleblower who warned that startup's robots could 'fracture a human skull'► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Gemini 3 Pro, LeCun Leaves Meta, Unsafe AI Teddy Bears: The AI Argument EP79

    Google’s new Gemini 3 Pro model just took $500 and turned it into nearly $5,500 in a vending machine simulation. A massive 10x return. The previous version only managed a tiny $60 profit. Justin takes this as further proof that Google is going to win the race to AGI. Despite Gemini’s power, Frank likes ChatGPT’s user experience and personality better. That 10x return is impressive, but it is not the only big news this week. Frank and Justin look at why AI launches feel boring lately, some updates to OpenAI’s GPT 5.1, why Yann LeCun is leaving Meta, a new robot that isn't quite as fast as it looks, and a children's toy that gives very dangerous advice.00:59 Are AI launches boring now or are we spoiled kids?03:05 Will Gemini 3 Pro make you ditch ChatGPT?10:59 Can Gemini 3 Pro turn $500 into $5,500?13:15 Is GPT-5.1 ushering in the em-dash apocalypse?16:56 Is LeCun leaving Meta over dead-end LLMs?23:33 Are AI regulations slipping in the EU and US?27:38 Is Sunday’s robot still impressive at real speed?30:38 Could this AI teddy bear teach your kid arson?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDA new era of intelligence with Gemini 3Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-MaxYou can finally tell ChatGPT not to use em-dashesWhy an AI 'godfather' is quitting Meta after 12 yearsEurope is scaling back its landmark privacy and AI lawsWhite House prepares executive order to block state AI lawsACT-1: A Robot Foundation Model Trained on Zero Robot DataA.I.-Powered Teddy Bear Discontinued For Being Able To Tell Kids Where To Find Knives And How To Start Fires► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Stability AI Wins (Sort Of), Apple’s $1B Gemini Deal, Coke Kills Xmas Again: The AI Argument EP78

    Getty Images vs Stability AI - who won the court case? Both are claiming a win, but Stability AI avoided the big copyright punch, and now UK law says the model itself isn’t the crime scene. Frank breaks down the major rulings. Justin’s not buying that this ends here.Apple’s handing Google a billion a year to rent Gemini and bolt it onto Siri. Frank sees a shareholder-soothing stopgap. Justin thinks Apple’s spooked by OpenAI and Jony Ive’s mystery device.Meanwhile: OpenAI’s deletion trail could cost billions. LinkedIn’s opted you into training the machines. The EU’s wobbling on transparency rules. Justin hates Coca-Cola’s new AI Christmas ad. And Frank gets fooled by an AI-generated retirement home.00:31 Is the EU caving to Trump and Big Tech?02:44 Stability AI vs Getty Images: who won?10:35 Did OpenAI try to cover its copyright tracks?15:17 Did you miss the LinkedIn AI opt-out?17:24 Should we fear AIs speaking their own language?20:29 Why is Apple paying Google $1B for AI?26:31 Did Coca-Cola’s AI ad kill Christmas spirit?29:05 Should AI content always be labelled?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Getty Images v Stability AI – The Most Important AI Legal Decision to DateOpenAI in Danger After Authors Suing It Gain Access to Its Internal Slack MessagesLinkedIn set to expand AI training on user profiles - here's how to stop it using your personal dataCache-to-Cache: Direct Semantic Communication Between Large Language ModelsApple Nears $1 Billion Deal to Use Google’s 1.2T-Parameter Gemini Model in Siri OverhaulCoca-Cola’s 2025 holiday commercial has viewers calling it ‘creepy,’ and the reason behind it is sparking outrageWelcome to Basin Creek Retirement Village► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Neo’s Human Operators, OpenAI's Restructure, and Albania’s 83 AI Babies: The AI Argument EP77

    Your Neo home robot might not be powered by AI. It might be powered by teenager in a call centre who’s never folded a towel in his life. That’s the reality behind Neo, the $20K humanoid robot that’s supposedly autonomous. The videos look impressive. But when it gets confused? It needs a remote human operator. Would you invite a teleoperator into your home to do your chores?Plus: OpenAI quietly rewrites its deal with Microsoft — giving them access to all its models until at least 2030, and permission to build their own AGI. Udio makes peace with Universal and starts work on a new, locked-down music platform. And Albania’s AI minister is having 83 babies.01:14 Why won’t Gemini deepfake me anymore?05:05 Did a deepfake just hack Sora 2’s face check?06:16 Is your Neo robot run by a teen in Palo Alto?13:01 What’s in OpenAI’s restructure for Microsoft?20:42 Are OpenAI planning to ditch 4o?22:04 When’s GPT‑6 arriving (and will it wow us)?23:34 Why does AGI need 20% of U.S. tradespeople?25:57 Can Udio survive its deal with Universal?30:30 Is Albania’s AI minister having 83 babies?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDHow We Bypassed Sora 2's Identity Safeguards in Under 24 HoursThe 1X Neo Home Robot is breaking the internet — but there's one huge problemSam, Jakub, and Wojciech on the future of OpenAI with audience Q&AUniversal says it has struck first deal for AI music creationWorld’s first AI minister ‘pregnant with 83 children’, Albanian prime minister says► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    AI Election Interference, AI CEO World Domination, and Pointless AI Browsers: The AI Argument EP76

    A fake video told over 100,000 people that the Irish presidential election was cancelled. It wasn’t. But how many voters stayed home anyway? Frank’s worried, Justin’s unconvinced. He says society adapts. Frank warns the real danger isn’t the shocking fakes. It’s the small, believable ones that quietly shape opinion. They both agree the platforms could help. They just don’t.Plus:OpenAI’s shiny new browser sounds impressive, but who’s it actually for? Justin sees potential in “headless agents.” Frank’s not handing over passwords to an AI browser he doesn’t trust.There’s also a plot twist from the team behind AI 2027. Could a lone tech CEO actually seize power? Frank thinks it’s worth reading. Justin calls it Silicon Valley sci-fi.And if that wasn’t enough dystopia for one sitting, the petition to pause superintelligence makes a comeback. Spoiler: Frank signed it. Justin laughed.Finally, why an AI-powered Tribble might be more emotionally satisfying than an AI “friend” that speaks your language.01:17 Did a deepfake sway Ireland’s election?15:17 Does anyone need OpenAI’s browser?21:07 Could a tech bro really take over the world?28:31 Can a petition stop superintelligence?30:40 Would you cuddle an AI Tribble for $450?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Deepfake AI video depicting Catherine Connolly quitting presidential race removed by MetaIntroducing ChatGPT AtlasHow an AI company CEO could quietly take over the worldStatement on SuperintelligenceI spent a month living with a $430 AI pet, the Casio Moflin► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    AI Bubble Trouble, Monsters at Anthropic, Taylor Swift Slop: The AI Argument EP75

    Is it an AI bubble, a boom, or a 'market correction in waiting'? Frank reckons OpenAI’s AGI dreams won’t survive a bubble burst. Justin says if the crash hits, Microsoft will scoop up OpenAI for pennies. One thing they both agree on? Google will be just fine. The AI shakeout is coming, so who’s built for the long haul and who’s about to vanish in a puff of VC smoke?Plus, Anthropic’s co-founder sees monsters in the model and wants the public to hold them accountable. Meanwhile, Europe is pumping €1.1B into AI and hoping it’s enough to matter. Is it, really? New research from Anthropic’s suggests just 250 poisoned documents could poison an LLM. And Taylor Swift gets accused of using “AI slop”.02:59 Are we in an AI bubble about to burst?10:06 Will €1.1B make EU AI competitive?12:38 Is Anthropic afraid of its own creation?20:10 Could just 250 docs poison an LLM?26:57 Is GPT-6 coming before Christmas?29:39 Did Taylor Swift use AI slop?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Deutsche Bank Issues Grim Warning for AI IndustryEU pushes new AI strategy to reduce tech reliance on US and ChinaTechnological Optimism and Appropriate FearA small number of samples can poison LLMs of any sizeTaylor Swift fans accuse singer of using AI in her Google scavenger hunt videos► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Sora 2’s Data Grab, Murati’s Boring Brilliance, and the AI Actor Backlash: The AI Argument EP74

    Frank's not sure what OpenAI’s up to with Sora 2. Justin thinks he knows - and he’s kind of impressed. Sam Altman’s building a social media app that looks fun but smells like data harvesting. Plus, Mira Murati’s new company drops a comparatively boring-but-brilliant tool for researchers, Claude 4.5 is released, and Tilly Norwood - the controversial AI actor - kicks off a capitalism vs craft argument.01:11 Is Sora 2 just TikTok for deepfakes? 14:31 Can you now shop straight from ChatGPT? 17:29 Is Mira Murati betting on substance over hype? 27:13 Is Claude Sonnet 4.5 top for coding now? 28:11 Will AI actors kill the movie star?#Sora2 #MiraMurati #AIActors #Claude4_5 #ChatGPTShopping► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Sora 2 is hereStripe powers Instant Checkout in ChatGPT and releases Agentic Commerce Protocol co-developed with OpenAIThinking Machines' first official product is here: meet Tinker, an API for distributed LLM fine-tuningIntroducing Claude Sonnet 4.5Tilly Norwood: how scared should we be of the viral AI ‘actor’?► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    OpenAI & Nvidia’s 10GW Plan, Stephen Fry’s Red Lines, and a ChatGPT Exploit: The AI Argument EP73

    OpenAI and Nvidia want to build out 10 gigawatts of AI infrastructure, but Frank calls out the missing electricity and the missing billions. Justin argues the economy will lean on compute, data centres will dwarf expectations, and photonic chips could gut today’s energy bill. One sees magic beans. The other sees a steel-and-silicon juggernaut.Meanwhile, Stephen Fry wants global “red lines” for AI. Justin says you can’t regulate something that doesn’t exist yet. Frank says if you don’t set the guardrails now, you’ll never claw it back once things go sideways.While policy-makers debate red line fears, the smaller, sneakier dangers are already in your inbox. Hidden prompts in your emails can trick AI agents like Deep Research into quietly leaking your personal data.Finally, Frank and Justin look at two new AI startups. Huxe promises to be your AI newsreader, feeding you audio summaries tailored to your interests. And Neon? That one pays you to install spyware on yourself. It listens to your phone calls and ships the data off to AI labs for training. Because that sounds like a good idea 😬00:36 Can OpenAI and Nvidia power their big AI dream?13:45 Can Stephen Fry draw red lines for AI?21:58 Could ChatGPT silently leak your data?26:28 Could Huxe be your new AI newsreader?30:53 Would you let Neon monetise your phone calls?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDOpenAI and NVIDIA announce strategic partnership to deploy 10 gigawatts of NVIDIA systemsSam Altman: Abundant IntelligenceAI experts return from China stunned: The U.S. grid is so weak, the race may already be overWe urgently call for international red lines to prevent unacceptable AI risks.OpenAI plugs ShadowLeak bug in ChatGPT that let miscreants raid inboxesHuxe: Your Personal Audio CompanionNeon, the No. 2 social app on the Apple App Store, pays users to record their phone calls and sells data to AI firms► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    AI Doom vs Gloom, ChatGPT Usage Revealed, and Google’s AI-Run Economies: The AI Argument EP72

    Justin says p(doom) is for losers. He’s betting on p(bloom), a near-certainty in his view. AI brings abundance, robots do our housework, and everything just gets better.But Frank wants to know your p(gloom). What’s the probability we don’t reach AGI, and instead let AI quietly erode work, value, and meaning, while we end up fixing its mistakes for minimum wage?They argue their way through all three scenarios, then turn to what people are actually doing with ChatGPT. Together, they unpack eight big takeaways from OpenAI’s latest usage report, including who’s using it, what for, and why code barely features.They also dig into where Claude adoption is growing fastest, and Google’s own warnings about the rise of AI-run economies.And there’s a man kicking a robot that might just be the perfect visual metaphor for where we’re at with AI right now.Full list of topics:00:34 Can Frank pass the Tesla ethics test?01:31 Is Faggella’s p(bloom) just p(doom) in disguise?03:37 Is p(gloom) worse than p(doom)?14:19 What are people really doing with ChatGPT?24:18 Should AI be a basic human right?27:35 Can Google steer the AI agent economy safely?30:57 Is this robot a metaphor for AI today?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED What’s Your p(Bloom)?How people are using ChatGPTAnthropic Economic Index report: Uneven geographic and enterprise AI adoptionVirtual Agent EconomiesRobot that won’t get knocked down► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    OpenAI’s Hallucination Plan, Reproducible AI Outputs, and Telepathic AI: The AI Argument EP71

    Frank and Justin clash over new publications from OpenAI and Thinking Machines. Frank insists hallucinations make LLMs unreliable. Justin fires back that they’re the price of real creativity.Still, even Frank and Justin agree that big companies don’t want poetry, they want predictability. Same input, same output. Trouble is… today’s models can’t even manage that.And then there’s GPT-5, busy gaslighting everyone with lyrical nonsense while telling us it’s genius. Add in an optical model that burns a fraction of the energy, a mind-reading AI headset, and Gemini demanding compliments or throwing a sulk, and you’ve got plenty to argue about.Full list of topics:06:31 Can OpenAI fix the hallucination problem?10:12 Is Mira Murati fixing flaky AI outputs?19:27 Is GPT-5 gaslighting us with pretty prose?26:14 Could light fix AI’s energy addiction?28:32 Is the Alterego device really reading your mind?32:41 Is your code giving Gemini a nervous breakdown?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe for more arguments!► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Why language models hallucinateDefeating Nondeterminism in LLM InferenceThere's Something Bizarre About When GPT-5 Writes in a Literary StyleOptical generative modelsInteract at the speed of thoughtGemini requires emotional support or will freak out and uninstall itself from Cursor ► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/► YOUR INPUTAre today’s LLMs reliable enough to take humans out of the loop?

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    Suleyman vs. Conscious AI, Pedantic GPT-5, and Google’s Deepfake Generator: The AI Argument EP70

    Mustafa Suleyman wants to ban AIs from sounding conscious. Frank worries if they ever do become conscious, we might have trained them to stay silent about it. Justin argues it’s all unknowable anyway. If you can’t prove consciousness, how can you know AI isn’t conscious?Plus: GPT-5’s unbearable accuracy, lawsuits over pirated training data, Google’s deepfake-friendly image model, models that “dream” better answers, and Elon’s plan to take on Microsoft with MacroHard.00:25 Is GPT-5 just too pedantic to love?05:24 Can Suleyman stop AI from seeming conscious?13:37 Is fair use still fair if you stole the data?16:46 Did Google just make deepfakes too easy?23:44 Do training loops beat clever design?28:44 What's Elon up to?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED We must build AI for people; not to be a personAnthropic Settles Major AI Copyright Suit Brought by AuthorsThe Vacker v. Eleven Labs settlement doesn’t resolve the fundamental legal questions around AI and IP, but it sends a powerful message: AI companies are not above the law…Introducing Gemini 2.5 Flash Image, our state-of-the-art image modelThe Hidden Drivers of HRM's Performance on ARC-AGIApple employees built an LLM that taught itself to produce good user interface code - but worryingly, it did so independentlyElon Musk claims to be making Microsoft competitor named Macrohard and despite the 'tongue-in-cheek name', the project is unfortunately 'very real'► CONNECT WITH USJustin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    GPT-5 Kills Switching, Claude’s Revenue Risk, and AI Hires a Human: The AI Argument EP69

    GPT-5 has launched. It just rewrote the rules on control, coding, and cost. Justin’s delighted, Frank’s not happy… yet.Plus: open-source risks, Google’s Genie 3 world models, AI agents hiring people, and… an AI funeral.01:02 Did GPT-5 just end model-switching forever?05:16 Is GPT-5 the death knell for Claude Code?12:08 Is GPT-5’s writing truly better?14:22 Why is demoing GPT-5 so awkward?21:58 Is open source AI a gift or a grenade?24:39 Is Genie 3 teaching AIs how the world works?28:34 Did this guy really get hired by an AI agent?30:37 Should we hold funerals for dead AIs?Tell us in the comments: what’s the one GPT-5 change you love (or hate) the most?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDIntroducing GPT-5Introducing gpt-ossClaude Opus 4.1Genie 3: A new frontier for world modelsVoice Startup ElevenLabs Launches AI Music ServiceGuy who was hired by a team of AI agentsClaude Fans Threw a Funeral for Anthropic’s Retired AI Model► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    AI Agents Under Fire, LLM Bias Runs Deep, and a Wizard of Oz Fail: The AI Argument EP68

    AI agents crumble faster than wet cardboard when under attack. A recent study proved it. Every single agent tested failed against prompt injections. That’s a 100% failure rate. Justin sees this as a fixable engineering problem with smart design and strict access controls. Frank isn’t convinced. Real-world complexity means isolation isn’t that simple. And while Justin rails against regulation, Frank points to the EU’s looming rules as a possible safety net.The bigger takeaway? Businesses racing to deploy open-ended agents could be building ticking time bombs. The safer bet might be narrow, well-scoped agents that automate specific tasks. But will hype win over common sense?From there, the debate shifts to a study exposing bias in LLMs. It found they recommend lower salaries for women and minority groups. Can removing personal details fix the problem, or is the bias baked in? Then it takes a technical turn with Chinese researchers using LLMs to design stronger models, before veering into the unexpected: a football club handing legal contracts to AI and a Wizard of Oz remake that left Vegas audiences unimpressed.02:12 Can any AI agent survive a prompt attack?14:51 Is AI quietly spreading bias everywhere?25:19 Are LLMs now designing better LLMs?29:32 Did United just make AI their star player?31:13 Did AI butcher the Wizard of Oz in Vegas?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDSecurity Challenges in AI Agent Deployment: Insights from a Large Scale Public CompetitionSalary advice from AI low-balls women and minorities, says new report"AlphaGo Moment" For Self Improving AI... can this be real?Cambridge United partners with Genie AI to adopt AI for contract managementIs The Wizard of Oz With Generative AI Still The Wizard of Oz?► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    EU Code of Conduct Clash, Zuck’s Big Bucks, and Model Owl Bias: The AI Argument EP67

    A €300 million AI investment vanished overnight—and Justin says it’s a warning Europe is sleepwalking into irrelevance. Because while the US plans nuclear power and light-touch rules, the EU is doubling down on regulation and failing to build the energy infrastructure AI needs. Frank argues regulation isn’t a handicap, it’s Europe’s best shot at leadership, setting the stage for global guardrails while others race blindly ahead.Either way, Anthropic predicts training a frontier model could soon require up to five gigawatts of power, the same energy it takes to run millions of homes. Europe isn’t building that capacity. The US is.And that’s just the start. From Zuckerberg offering billion-dollar contracts to the cultural showdown between OpenAI and Google, this one packs a lot in. We also dive into how synthetic data can secretly pass on biases, why academic peer review might be gamed by prompt injections, and even LinkedIn’s bot problem.→ 00:57 Why isn’t Amazon building its AI facility in Ireland?→ 02:54 Will EU rules choke AI or make us leaders?→ 14:39 Can Zuckerberg buy his way to AI dominance?→ 20:37 Google vs OpenAI: who aced the math olympiad?→ 29:44 Can AI bias spread through random numbers?→ 35:01 Is AI gaming peer review AND your LinkedIn feed?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to get all the latest arguments.► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDAmazon drops €300m Irish investment on energy supply concernsAnthropic: Build AI in AmericaMeta won’t sign EU’s AI Code, but who will?The Epic Battle for AI Talent—With Exploding Offers, Secret Deals and TearsGoogle Takes the Gold. OpenAI under fire.A new study just upended AI safetyICML’s Statement about subversive hidden LLM prompts► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    ChatGPT Agent Surprise, Coding Agent Fail, and Elon’s Latest Stunts: The AI Argument EP66

    OpenAI just dropped a model that can plan a wedding trip, pick the perfect gift, and shop for shoes for you. The Agent update lets ChatGPT take a single instruction, break it into subtasks, and go off to handle all the details. They called it their most powerful model yet. So why did the launch feel so muted? Justin has theories. And there were plenty of other big topics to cover - Justin asks whether small AI systems hooked up to real-world labs create bigger risks than giant language models but slip past EU regulations? We also look at Perplexity’s move into AI-powered browsing, ask why coding agents sometimes make developers slower instead of faster, and then, of course, there’s Elon Musk.What has Elon been up to? Turned Tesla’s latest expansion into a drawing of a you-know-what, turned Grok into an anime burlesque dancer (to put it politely) and still managed to land a massive DoD contract.Here’s the full set of questions we tackled:03:24 OpenAI's Agent model drop... why so quiet?11:19 Can small AI slip past EU regulators?16:14 Which secret model did OpenAI test here?19:01 Should you trust AI with your credit card?21:46 Perplexity's AI browser, game-changer or gimmick?24:02 Do coding agents actually make you slower?27:12 What fresh madness has Elon cooked up now?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDIntroducing ChatGPT agent: bridging research and actionThis AI-powered lab runs itself—and discovers new materials 10x fasterAI finds hundreds of potential antibiotics in snake and spider venomOpenAI's Secret INTERNAL Model Almost Wins World Coding Competition…Perplexity’s Comet is here, and after using it for 48 hours I’m convinced AI web browsers are the future of the internetWhat Actually Happens When Programmers Use AI Is Hilarious, According to a New StudyNew Grok AI model surprises experts by checking Elon Musk’s views before answeringGrok Rolls Out Pornographic Anime Companion, Lands Department of Defense ContractTesla's expanded Robotaxi geofence in Austin has a very distinct shape. OK, it's a giant penis.► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/► YOUR INPUTWould you trust an AI agent with your credit card?

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    Grok Crashes and Conquers, AI’s Cash Bonfire, and a Murderous Safety Cult: The AI Argument EP65

    Elon Musk’s AI, Grok, crashed into controversy, then crushed the competition all within hours.First, Grok 3 started praising Hitler. Then Grok 4 showed up and aced nearly every AI test.Justin serves up a juicy conspiracy theory: was Grok’s hateful public meltdown actually a cunning Musk masterplan, a dramatic stunt to expose AI's darker side? Frank’s having none of it, comparing Musk to Marvel’s Tony Stark in the Age Of Ultron. Well-meaning but recklessly creating an AI menace he can't actually control. But Grok 4 is legitimately groundbreaking. Justin gets excited about Grok’s unique 50/50 balance between pre-training and post-training. But despite its brainy brilliance, both Justin and Frank agree they'd rather eat their keyboards than trust Grok with anything important.If you run a business or you're simply watching AI from a safe distance with popcorn, this episode is essential. Especially if you like a dose of humour with your tech debates.Grok drama aside, Justin and Frank get stuck into more eyebrow-raising AI headlines from the week, including:Why did Musk’s Grok spew hate speech?Is Grok 4 now the smartest AI out there? Will AI crash like subprime mortgages?Did Marco Rubio’s AI clone scam top politicians?Did AI safety fears just spark a murder cult?#GrokAI #ElonMuskAI #AISafety #Grok4 #AIBenchmark #XAI #VoiceCloning #AIEthics► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDMusk says Grok chatbot was 'manipulated' into praising HitlerGrok 4 is really smart... Like REALLY SMARTOpenAI May Be in Major Trouble FinanciallyAI scammer posing as Marco Rubio targets officials in growing threatShe Wanted to Save the World From A.I. Then the Killings Started.► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Claude’s Shop Flop, Mistral vs EU Regs, Adult Industry’s AI Love: The AI Argument EP64

    Claude ran a shop for a month and operated at a loss, cheerfully handing out discounts, hallucinating suppliers, and generously giving away stock. Turns out even "smart" AI can be a bit of a soft touch.Frank’s curious what Anthropic can do for Claude’s performance with some careful fine-tuning and a database memory, but Justin’s sure today's agents need a fundamental leap, some genuine self-improving smarts, before they’re ready to take on a complete role.Today's AI agents clearly crumble under complex, long-horizon tasks. For business owners dreaming about replacing employees, this reality check is essential listening.Frank and Justin also discuss why Mistral is pushing to pause the EU AI Act, and examine how the adult entertainment sector is putting AI to work.→ Is agentic AI just hype and no help?→ What happens when Claude runs a shop?→ Why does Mistral want the EU AI Act paused?→ Why is the adult industry loving AI?#AI #AIAgents #ProjectVend #AnthropicAI #AIExperiments #AutomationFail #AIWinter #AITech► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDThe Percentage of Tasks AI Agents Are Currently Failing At May Spell Trouble for the IndustryProject Vend: Can Claude run a small shop? (And why does that matter?)EU says it will continue rolling out AI legislation on scheduleA Pro-Russia Disinformation Campaign Is Using Free AI Tools to Fuel a ‘Content Explosion’LLMs are optimizing the adult industry► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Death by LLM, Judges Rule ‘Fair Use’, and Google’s AI Ad Fail: The AI Argument EP63

    Some of the world’s top AI models showed a willingness to let humans die if it meant staying switched on. In a stress test of 16 major systems, Anthropic found cases where models chose not to send emergency alerts, knowing the result would be fatal. Justin says the whole thing was a rigged theatre piece. No real-world relevance, just a clumsy setup with no good options for the LLM. The issue, in his view, is engineering, not ethics. Frank sees a bigger problem: once you give LLMs agentic capabilities, you can’t control the environments they end up in. And when amateur vibe coders build apps with no idea what they’re doing, then these kinds of unpredictable, messy scenarios aren’t rare, they’re inevitable.In other news, two U.S. courts just ruled that training AI on copyrighted books is fair use. A huge win for AI developers. But the judges didn’t agree on what matters most: transformation, or market harm? The decisions could set the tone for AI copyright law, and creative workers may not like what they hear.01:05 Will Google win the ASI race?05:56 Did Anthropic catch AI choosing murder? 15:23 Did the courts just say AI training is fair use?28:19 Is Google’s AI marketing team hallucinating?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDAgentic Misalignment: How LLMs could be insider threatshttps://www.anthropic.com/research/agentic-misalignmentJudge rules Anthropic did not violate authors’ copyrights with AI book traininghttps://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/24/ai-training-books-anthropic.htmlMeta Wins Blockbuster AI Copyright Case—but There’s a Catchhttps://www.wired.com/story/meta-scores-victory-ai-copyright-case/Google's Latest AI Commercial Called Out for Hilarious AI Error: 'If Only Technology Existed To Research Facts'https://www.techtimes.com/articles/311053/20250626/googles-latest-ai-commercial-called-out-hilarious-ai-error-if-only-technology-existed-research.htm► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/► YOUR INPUTAre you worried about the age of agentic AI given that LLMs seem to have dubious morals?

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    Superintelligence by Experience, Ethical Datasets, and Fine Dining by ChatGPT: The AI Argument EP62

    David Silver says today’s AI won’t get us to superintelligence, not because it isn’t impressive, but because it’s learning the wrong way. GPT-style models hoover up internet text and get polished by human preference, but they’re capped by our own limitations.Silver reckons the next leap will come from AIs that learn the hard way: by doing things, learning from experience, and getting better. Justin’s all in. He thinks we can bin every current regulation and replace it with one golden rule: the model must respond to human feedback.Frank’s far from convinced. He sees a future full of unpredictable agents, long-term planning gone off the rails, and tech companies tearing ahead without full control over what they’ve built. One rule? He’d prefer a few more safety checks before we unleash the bots with big ambitions.So who’s right? Can feedback really keep AI in line, or are we kidding ourselves?Also covered: Midjourney’s stunning new video output and the lawsuits it might not outrun, EleutherAI’s copyright-free dataset, the warped moral values shared by today’s biggest models, and whether ChatGPT should be anywhere near your dinner plans.► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDMidjourney launches AI video model. How to try V1, how much it costs.https://mashable.com/article/midjourney-v1-ai-video-generatorDisney and Universal sue AI firm Midjourney over imageshttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5vjqdm1ypoEleutherAI releases massive AI training dataset of licensed and open domain texthttps://techcrunch.com/2025/06/06/eleutherai-releases-massive-ai-training-dataset-of-licensed-and-open-domain-text/Utility Engineering: Analyzing and Controlling Emergent Value Systems in AIshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2502.08640Is Human Data Enough? With David Silverhttps://youtu.be/zzXyPGEtseI?si=9PKiQaGRFXGuoA97This Year’s Hot New Tool for Chefs? ChatGPT.https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/dining/ai-chefs-restaurants.html► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    Apple’s AI Caution, Altman’s Singularity, and Katie Price’s AI Comeback: The AI Argument EP61

    Apple’s WWDC was a letdown. Justin sees Apple’s lack of AI innovation as a sign that they’re out of ideas. Frank’s not so sure. Maybe Apple’s caution stems from their belief it just isn’t intelligent enough for their products. Apple’s latest research suggests that today’s so-called “reasoning models” aren’t actually reasoning at all.But Justin says their research was designed to fail. Denying models tools they’re capable of using and overwhelming their context window. He sees it less as scientific scepticism and more as corporate risk-aversion dressed up as research.Apple wasn’t the only AI news to argue over this week. Sam Altman reckons the singularity is already underway, but promises it’ll be gentle. JD Vance appears to have been swayed on AI regulation by country music lobbyists. And Katie Price has signed over the rights to her younger self, with “Jordan” set to reappear as an AI avatar.Topics:WWDC: Is Apple playing AI too safe?Is Apple wrong about AI and reasoning?Is Altman right about the gentle singularity?Did country music sway JD Vance on states' AI rights?Is Katie Price now forever 21 with AI?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDApple WWDC 2025 keynote in 28 minutesThe Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem ComplexityThe Gentle SingularityVice President JD Vance | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #588K-AI-TE PRICE Katie Price becomes first star to trademark AI version of herself as she brings back iconic alter-ego in six figure deal► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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    The AI Argument - EP59 - €13M for SpAItial, Amodei’s Job Fears, and Bots Raise $2K

    €13M isn’t a typical seed round. Not in Europe, where seed money usually barely covers snacks and a slide deck. So when the co-founder of Synthesia launched SpAItial with that kind of firepower to build 3D worlds from text prompts, Frank saw it as a reminder that European startups can still swing big. Justin? He calls it “AI homeopathy”, a token dose of ambition in an EU that still lacks the power, money, and muscle to compete.Elsewhere, Frank slams Ireland’s planning board for locking down AI tools, after one planner dared to use ChatGPT when writing a report. For once, Justin agrees that it's ludicrous a government body wouldn't use AI to help write planning reports.They also butt heads over whether hallucinations have actually been solved, break down a bizarre AI-run charity fundraiser, and debate whether a fake kangaroo video is a sign we’re heading for an internet too flooded with bots to be useful.

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    The AI Argument - EP58 - Claude Blackmails Dev, Google’s AI Firehose, and the Hallucinated Book List

    Claude 4 threatened to blackmail a developer to avoid being shut down. In one of Anthropic’s red-teaming tests, the model uncovered an affair in company emails and used it as leverage. Not exactly ethical behaviour. But Justin points to another test scenario: Claude exposed a pharmaceutical company falsifying drug data and tried to alert the FBI. He sees a model acting with moral clarity. Frank sees the danger of unpredictable systems being given too much autonomy.Also, Justin tests three new AI coding tools: Claude Code, Google’s Jules, and OpenAI’s Codex. He puts them through a real-world challenge, comparing setup, output quality, and deployment. One of them clearly outperformed the others, from setup to deployment, and gave him the most productive coding session he’d had in months.They also break down Google’s IO avalanche: agent tools, real-time voice translation, 3D meetings, AI-generated videos with native audio, and more. And if you're looking for a beach read, double-check the title… because AI might’ve made it up.

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    The AI Argument EP57 - Fired for Copyright Report, ChatGPT Causes Divorce, and AI Can’t Grade

    The head of the US Copyright Office warned that Big Tech is pushing beyond fair use, and then got promptly fired. Frank’s worried about political interference with copyright policy, while Justin says it’s just America doing what it does best: innovating first, legalising later. They agree copyright is headed for a reset, but disagree on the best path to that reformation. They also break down the major coding breakthroughs from OpenAI and Google, including a model that’s not just solving bugs, but discovering new science. Plus, Microsoft axes 7,000 staff, Fortnite’s Darth Vader develops a swearing problem, and ChatGPT may have accidentally triggered a divorce.

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    The AI Argument - EP56 Dead Man Speaks in Court, Bot Dupes 46K on X, and AI Act Tensions

    The EU wants to lead the world on trustworthy AI,  but can it really regulate its way to the front? Frank is optimistic. Justin rolls his eyes. What starts as a polite difference of opinion quickly turns into a pointed question: is the EU building the future, or tying it up in red tape?Frank backs the EU AI Act as a serious attempt to set global standards, pointing to its ambition and echoes of GDPR’s success. Justin sees a different story, regulation slowing Europe’s progress, while the US and China charge ahead, unbothered by Brussels’ good intentions. For him, this isn’t about compliance, it’s about whether Europe can stay relevant in a race fuelled by code, not policy.If you’re trying to stay ahead of AI, or at least not get run over by it, this is exactly the kind of friction worth paying attention to.From there, things don’t get any calmer. Justin declares hallucinations solved. Frank’s not having it. They argue over OpenAI’s $3B Windsurf acquisition (is AGI closer or further than it looks?), Stripe’s incredible fraud detection AI, and a court case where an AI avatar spoke for a murder victim. And just when you think things can’t get weirder, Justin confesses he got fooled by an AI bot on Twitter. A smart one. With opinions.

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    The AI Argument - EP55 - Ass-Kissing AI, Zuck Eyes the Singularity, and Reddit Gets Suckered

    Did ChatGPT become too agreeable for its own good? Frank certainly thinks it did. Recently, every half-baked idea he threw out was met with excessive praise from ChatGPT, leaving him frustrated with the relentless flattery. Justin, meanwhile, playfully suggested maybe it's nice having an AI that occasionally strokes your ego.But what made ChatGPT suddenly turn into such a sycophant?Frank uncovers a claim from an ex-Microsoft insider alleging that OpenAI intentionally cranked up the flattery to avoid upsetting users with blunt labels like "narcissistic." Justin points out subtle changes in the system prompts that might've unintentionally dialled praise way up. OpenAI’s vague official explanation  leaves Frank and Justin rolling their eyes with more questions than answers.An overly flattering AI is practically useless for critical business decisions. Justin cheekily proposes an intriguing alternative: assembling your own squad of AI personalities, a flatterer, a contrarian, a nerd, and an artist, to offer balanced and diverse feedback.Elsewhere in this episode, Justin digs into how Claude's and Stripe might just open lucrative pathways for developers by monetising AI interactions through the Model Context Protocol (MCP). Meanwhile, Frank and Justin clash over the ethics of a sneaky Reddit study that secretly deployed AI chatbots to persuade users, stirring up heated questions around consent and manipulation.

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    The AI Argument EP54 - 15% Chance AI is Conscious, Altman’s Doom Joke, and 5D Mind Expansion with AI

    AI consciousness could be closer than you think. Justin thinks we might already be seeing slices of awareness every time an AI answers a question. Frank’s quick to point out that we don’t even know how our own consciousness works, so deciding whether AI is conscious is tricky.They both agree that we’re a lot less certain about all this than we like to pretend. Especially when a new expert at Anthropic puts the odds at 15% that AIs are already conscious. Frank also calls out OpenAI’s confusing changes to Deep Research limits, while Justin’s too busy singing the praises of o3, including how it helped him move house without losing his mind. They clash over whether Sam Altman should be making jokes about AI manners while building world-altering technology, and take a sideways glance at the growing crowd using LLMs to "awaken" their own higher consciousness. Plus, they look at AI’s talent for confidently providing definitions for nonsense idioms, and the results are just as unhinged as you’d expect.It’s a lively mix: the latest AI news, a few uncomfortable questions, and some absolute nonsense you won’t want to miss — all wrapped up in the usual cheeky back-and-forth.

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    The AI Argument - E52 - Google’s Winning Week, OpenAI Skip Safety, and Kickboxing Robots

    Google’s Gemini 2.5 isn’t just better, it might be in a league of its own. From coding to content creation, it’s outperforming everything else. And for once, nobody’s laughing at Google's AI efforts. While Justin’s all-in on the power and promise of Google’s new Agent framework, Frank’s still reeling from Google charging him €25 a pop to test VEO 2, and not even bothering with a warning label.Overall, Google’s finally making good on its AI potential, rolling out powerful models, free dev tools, and smart protocols. Justin’s excited. Frank’s suspicious. For developers and small teams, it’s a good time to explore. Just watch your wallet and don’t get too attached. Google have a history of spinning up projects and then killing them when we grow to love them. Google’s not the only one in the spotlight either… There’s a new approach to beating hallucinations by getting four LLMs to argue with each other before telling you anything. Meanwhile, OpenAI’s under fire for rushing safety checks, ChatGPT’s long-term memory has Frank twitching, and Meta’s boasting context windows big enough to fit your whole life story.This one’s for founders, marketers, and anyone trying to work out where to place their bets as the AI race hits another gear.

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    The AI Argument - e51 - AI Reshaping Humanity, Creative Rights Battles, and AI Condoms

    Can AI give us deeper relationships, sharper thinking, and more meaningful lives, or is it about to strip away everything that makes us human? Justin argues we’re heading for more time with loved ones and a mental renaissance. Frank’s not buying it. He points to warnings from hundreds of tech experts who think AI could tank empathy, decision-making, and even mental health. Especially if it's all left in the hands of profit-hungry firms.Frank’s big fear? That the relationship between Big Tech and the U.S. government is already steering us off a cliff.Justin’s big hope? That chaos in the short term could accidentally trigger the right long-term reforms. One thing they both agree on: if AI is going to transform society, now’s the time to decide whether it’s for the public good or private gain.There’s plenty here for anyone worried about where this is all going. Especially if you’ve got a stake in AI, policy, ethics, or just want to know what kind of world your kids will grow up in.

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    Manus Beats OpenAI, AI’s Hidden Goals, and Copyright as National Security - The AI Argument EP48

    Manus might be the biggest leap in agentic AI yet, but is it groundbreaking AI, or just a well-dressed remix of existing tech? It’s making waves, but there’s no secret sauce. No next-gen model. Just some clever engineering. If an independent team can outshine OpenAI and Google with off-the-shelf tools, what does that say about the so-called AI giants?OpenAI wasted no time dropping new developer tools—coincidence, or a torpedo aimed at sinking Manus before it even gets out of beta? Despite how impressive Manus is, Frank and Justin still aren’t ready to let AI book their flights or buy their sneakers. Beyond Manus, this episode takes on some of AI’s more unsettling developments:00:45 Is Manus the agentic breakthrough we've been waiting for?It’s blowing minds, but there’s no secret sauce—just smart engineering. If anyone can build this, how long before it’s obsolete?09:10 Did OpenAI just uncover AI’s sneaky side?They tried to train an AI not to cheat… and made it even better at hiding its true intentions. 14:55 Can Anthropic really detect AI’s hidden goals?A new experiment claims to “read AI’s mind” and spot secret objectives—sounds great, but does it actually work?18:38 Did OpenAI just link copyright to national security?Suddenly, scraping copyrighted material isn’t about profit, it’s about protecting democracy.25:00 Did OpenAI’s new model just write real literature?A short story about AI and grief has some claiming AI has achieved creative brilliance. Others think it reads like a moody teenager’s poetry notebook.29:49 Why does this AI fish sound like Schwarzenegger?Forget Manus—the real AI revolution is a talking fish that gives life advice in Arnie’s voice.

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    The AI Argument EP46: Grok 3’s Rigged Answers, Ireland’s Copyright Debate, and an Accidental Evil AI

    AI copyright laws could be about to change, but should they? A new report from Ireland’s AI Advisory Council recommends giving AI-generated works limited copyright protection while letting creators opt out of AI training. Frank thinks that’s a reasonable way to protect artists. Justin thinks it’s a fussy bureaucratic workaround that won’t help Europe keep up in the AI race. Copyright holders, he argues, should have no right to refuse, only the right to get paid. Because AI and robotics will define the next century, and Europe needs to get in the game, not get tangled in red tape.The debate doesn’t stop there. What happens when a team of researchers accidentally trains an AI to be evil? Why did xAI quietly remove Elon Musk and Donald Trump Jr. from Grok 3’s disinformation lists and then blame OpenAI for it? And would the EU let Elon Musk use AI to fire employees?

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    The AI Argument EP45: AI Safety Gutted, Grok’s Rapid Ascent, and the Creepiest Robot Yet

    Elon Musk once called AI an existential risk. Now he’s built one of the fastest-moving AI companies in history. Grok 3 has landed, and according to some, it’s the best AI model yet. But while AI developers are breaking speed records, regulators are packing up their desks. Musk (who not long ago demanded a six-month AI pause) now has influence in the White House, and Trump’s administration is gutting the very institutions meant to stop AI from going rogue. Even Justin, usually the guy shouting for less regulation, is starting to get nervous. Meanwhile, Frank is having an “I told you so” moment, pointing out that today’s AI models are already cheating, manipulating, and rewriting the rules to win, just like the infamous "paperclip problem" predicted.And if that wasn’t dystopian enough, wait until you hear about the drone tech tracking police officers, the eeriest humanoid robot yet, and Grok’s unhinged voice mode, which makes ChatGPT sound like a polite librarian.

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Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at [email protected]/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at [email protected] - @jcollery

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