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EPISODE · Jan 13, 2022

Amanda Rothman – Therapy, Shame, and Kung Fu Movies

from The Pursuit of Perfectness · host Dennis Pacheco

This week the wonderful Amanda Rothman joins Ellen and Dennis to talk drama therapy, our need to take care of others (including, sometimes, our therapists), and how shame is a driving force behind perfectionism. They also go off on a tangent about The Matrix for … way? … too long? Is this officially a kung […]

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