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EPISODE · Feb 14, 2025 · 33 MIN

Tracy Moore-Grant: What a Child-Centered Divorce Really Means

from Been There Got Out Podcast · host Chris & Lisa / Tracy Ann Moore-Grant

Ask a parent in the middle of a custody fight whether they want a child-centered divorce and every one of them says yes. Tracy Moore-Grant's follow-up is the useful part: she brings it back up later in the case, when a specific decision is on the table, and asks what that answer means right now.Tracy Moore-Grant practices family law in Georgia at Patterson Moore Butler, north of Atlanta, and has for more than two decades. She is also a mediator, arbitrator, parenting coordinator, and guardian ad litem, and she founded the Amicable Divorce Network, which vets professionals in the US, Canada, and the UK for three things: being resolution focused, being genuinely experienced in their field, and billing fairly. The directory runs well past lawyers, taking in mediators, financial professionals, coaches, realtors, mortgage professionals, and, as she mentions, an interior designer who helps people un-spouse a house.The first stretch is about who you hire. Tracy explains why an attorney projecting your anger into the court system is the expensive way to communicate, and why the professional nobody in the courthouse wants to talk to is the one whose bills run highest. She takes seriously the question of whether any of this works against a difficult ex, and her answer is that experienced professionals who know the likely result can steer a case to it without handing a narcissistic ex the largest possible stage.From there it turns to the children. Tracy separates divorce from conflict and says only the second one causes the harm, which covers arguing where a child can hear you and letting relatives criticize your co-parent in front of them. Lisa adds what a guest recently taught her about passive alienating behavior, which is that a child reads your body language across a room whether or not they catch the words.The holiday section is worth the listen on its own. Tracy takes apart the parent who needs Halloween in the parenting plan and asks what the day actually looks like from the child's seat in the car. She and Lisa also cover the cost-versus-odds question to put to your attorney before you fight for something, why a promised outcome from a specific judge is not a promise at all, and how to tell children about the divorce together, including what to do when your ex will not sit down for it.As always, this is strategic education, not legal or mental-health advice for your specific situation.🎓 What you'll learnWhat child-centered actually means once a real decision is on the tableWhy amicable describes the professionals you hire, not your exWhy two attorneys who talk to each other cost you less, and what it means when nobody willHow experienced professionals resolve cases involving a narcissistic ex outside courtWhy conflict, not divorce itself, is what harms childrenThird parties, body language, and passive alienating behaviorHolidays in a parenting plan, and how the day looks from your child's seatTelling the children together, and what to do when your ex will not⏱️ Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:00 Child-Centered Divorce Month, and the January filing wave 3:00 Tracy's background and the Amicable Divorce Network 5:00 Amicable does not mean your ex is amicable 7:00 Why two attorneys talking is a good sign, not collusion 11:00 Conflict, not divorce, is what harms children 13:00 Third parties, body language, and passive alienating behavior 17:00 Positive and negative advocates 19:00 Halloween, Christmas, and whose holiday it really is 25:00 Telling the children together 27:00 When your ex will not participateKeep going 💜 Book a free 30-minute discovery call and we'll help you map your next steps: https://beentheregotout.com/call 📘 Been There Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High-Conflict Divorce, and How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances — https://www.amazon.com/dp/194627495X 📘 Been There Got Out: When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You (our parental-alienation book) — https://www.amazon.com/dp/1967674183 🔗 Amicable Divorce Network: https://www.amicabledivorcenetwork.com/About Been There Got Out Chris Barry and Lisa Johnson are high-conflict divorce, custody, and co-parenting strategists, and the founders of Been There Got Out. They know these cases from the inside: both have successfully represented themselves in family court. Few attorneys have a playbook for a case like this — Chris and Lisa write yours with you, so you and your kids can get through it as unscathed as possible.

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Ask a parent in the middle of a custody fight whether they want a child-centered divorce and every one of them says yes. Tracy Moore-Grant's follow-up is the useful part: she brings it back up later in the case, when a specific decision is on the table, and asks what that answer means right now. Tracy Moore-Grant practices family law in Georgia at Patterson Moore Butler, north of Atlanta, and has for more than two decades. She is also a mediator, arbitrator, parenting coordinator, and guardia...

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