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EPISODE · Jul 18, 2021 · 1H 26M

Artem Fokin from Caro-Kann on Burford's bull case

from Yet Another Value Podcast · host Andrew Walker

Artem Fokin, founder of Caro-Kann Capital, discusses the bull case for Burford (BUR). Burford is a litigation finance firm, and Artem makes a compelling case that they are both undervalued on an asset basis and have a moat giving their scale.Caro-Kann's website: http://caro-kann-capital.com/My thread on Burford prep: https://twitter.com/AndrewRangeley/status/1415795903751983109?s=20Chapters0:00 Intro1:35 Burford Overview6:00 Does Burford bring something other than money to the table?13:45 Is Burford's scale a competitive advantage?19:30 Why can't a major PE or IB launch a Burford competitor?23:10 Are the returns to litigation financing sustainable?37:10 How do you value Burford?42:20 Burford's first component of value: Balance sheet investments49:05 Buford's second value component: Asset management54:50 Burford's third value component: YPF case58:30 How Burford has valued YPF over the years1:10:25 Why should YPF settle in dollars instead of pesos?1:14:20 Discussing the bear case around the management team1:23:45 Closing thoughts

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