Ben Claremon on $LUMN

Ben Claremon, Partner at Cove Street Capital, discusses his thesis on Lumen. Lumen is a complicated story and a bit of a battleground stock, but Ben think the company is trading at a large discount to their asset value and is making moves to unlock that value.Ben's first YAVP appearance on Viasat (VSAT): https://youtu.be/Otw0oWvuhdUBen's Compounders podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Qbcrw84MDaJ3CZUNuqOxu?si=vD-uIjqVR4G_SFwH_ALVEg&dl_branch=1Chapters0:00 Intro1:35 Lumen Overview5:55 Why didn't Lumens' old management team believe in Fiber?13:30 Discussing the proxy statement and management incentives19:15 How can telecom investors get over their Lumen baggage?25:15 Looking at Lumen as a special situation35:00 What would Lumen look like if they sold all of their consumer business?37:05 Lumen's valuation and sum of the parts39:15 Lumen's looming dividend cut?47:00 Government subsidies (CAF going away; RDOF replacing it?)54:40 Why invest in Lumen vs. a cleaner story like Frontier (FYBR)1:03:25 Closing thoughts