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EPISODE · Mar 5, 2025 · 55 MIN

Beyond Data into Depth with Andrew Wermelskirchen

from Radical Sacred · host Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke

We love an interview with someone we both love dearly who also happens to run a gorgeous newsletter! Today we interview Andrew Wermelskirchen about his substack offering for educators and religious leaders: Observations of a Nobody. What can happen when we connect with others via curiosity through open ended, open hearted questions? We chat with one of our favorite somebody’s about creative offerings, open hearted living, and leading with vulnerability. Do you have something on your heart and mind that won’t let you go? Then by all means, dive into it!Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):Observations of a Nobody Makebelieve by Padraig O’Tuoma Chapters00:00 The Genesis of Creation and Time02:53 Friendship and Shared Experiences05:53 Navigating Personal Identity and Professional Paths08:22 Introducing the Newsletter: Observations from a Nobody11:17 The Power of Self-Perception and Language14:04 Curiosity as a Driving Force in Education16:56 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Acceptance19:49 Engaging with Questions and Community22:47 The Importance of Curiosity in Learning29:38 The Good Samaritan: A Lesson for Middle Schoolers33:32 Personal Reflections on Assumptions36:37 The Importance of Formational Questions38:12 Depth vs. Data in Communication43:12 Engaging Conversations and Community46:48 Facing Fears in Creative Expression51:33 Guides and Community Support

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We love an interview with someone we both love dearly who also happens to run a gorgeous newsletter! Today we interview Andrew Wermelskirchen about his substack offering for educators and religious leaders: Observations of a Nobody. What can happen when we connect with others via curiosity through open ended, open hearted questions? We chat with one of our favorite somebody’s about creative offerings, open hearted living, and leading with vulnerability. Do you have something on your heart and mind that won’t let you go? Then by all means, dive into it!Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):Observations of a Nobody Makebelieve by Padraig O’Tuoma Chapters00:00 The Genesis of Creation and Time02:53 Friendship and Shared Experiences05:53 Navigating Personal Identity and Professional Paths08:22 Introducing the Newsletter: Observations from a Nobody11:17 The Power of Self-Perception and Language14:04 Curiosity as a Driving Force in Education16:56 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Acceptance19:49 Engaging with Questions and Community22:47 The Importance of Curiosity in Learning29:38 The Good Samaritan: A Lesson for Middle Schoolers33:32 Personal Reflections on Assumptions36:37 The Importance of Formational Questions38:12 Depth vs. Data in Communication43:12 Engaging Conversations and Community46:48 Facing Fears in Creative Expression51:33 Guides and Community Support

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