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EPISODE · Mar 9, 2026 · 33 MIN

Beyond the Loop: How ECAPS and EVA are Changing Clinical Practice

from Pain Unfiltered · host Patrick Buchanan, MD and Timothy Deer, MD

In this episode, our guests, Dr. Jason Pope and Dr. Jonathan Goree, break down and simplify closed loop spinal cord stimulation. They discuss how this therapy has changed their clinical practice. Disclosers: Dr. Pope and Goree are paid consultants for Saluda Medical.  Host, Patrick Buchanan, MD: Dr. Buchanan is double board certified in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation and Pain Medicine. His goal is to help his patients get their life back by managing their pain and focus on things they love and enjoy. https://www.californiapaindoctors.com/patrick-buchanan-m-d/ https://www.instagram.com/patdbmd/?hl=en Host, Timothy Deer, MD: Dr. Deer is the president and CEO of the Spine and Nerve Centers of the Virginias. Dr. Deer has led a revolution in interventional spine and nerve care by teaching thousands of physicians an algorithmic approach to care including methods that are less invasive at a lower risk for complications. https://centerforpainrelief.com/about/tim-deer-md/ https://twitter.com/doctdeer?lang=en https://www.instagram.com/timdeer30a/?hl=en Guest, Jason Pope, MD: With over a decade of experience, and regarded as one of the most influential key opinion leaders in the field of pain medicine and neuromodulation, Dr. Jason Pope in Santa Rosa is triple boarded in Pain Medicine, has published over 80 peer reviewed journals, spoken at numerous national and international conferences, and has consulted with many start-ups and established companies. https://evolverestorativecenter.care/ Guest, Jonathan Goree, MD: Board certified in anesthesiology and pain medicine, Dr. Johnathan Goree is a proud alumnus of Catholic High School in Little Rock, Arkansas. In 2014, Dr. Goree returned home to Little Rock, Arkansas to join the faculty at UAMS where he serves as the Director of Interventional Pain Management Services and an Assistant Professor in the Department of Anesthesiology. He primarily focuses on the treatment of chronic pain conditions using minimally invasive procedures, spinal cord stimulation, and vertebral augmentation.  https://medicine.uams.edu/pain/meet-our-team/johnathan-h-goree-m-d/ About ASPN: ASPN was created to bring the top minds in the fields of pain and neuroscience together. ASPN has a mission to improve education, highlight scientific curiosity, establish best practice, and elevate each other in a quest to improve the field of pain and neuroscience. All initiatives of ASPN are dedicated to improving patient outcomes, education, research, and innovation. ASPN's website and social links: https://aspnpain.com https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCixMNhEtOiRm1aQmDWtzxmg https://www.instagram.com/aspn_painneuro/ https://www.facebook.com/PainNeuro https://www.linkedin.com/in/aspn/ https://twitter.com/aspn_painneuro Our sponsors: Saluda Medical: Saluda is the first to directly measure the spinal cord's physiologic response to stimulation. A 10+ year journey since the first ECAP measurement to transform the science and practice of SCS using Evoked Compound Action Potentials (ECAPs) to pioneer smart neuromodulation therapy. The Evoke® System listens and responds to each patient's neural signature.  https://www.saludamedical.com/ Spinal Simplicity: Spinal Simplicity is a medical device company dedicated to creating simple, innovative procedure solutions for our physician partners to help improve their patient's pain and quality of life. A life where pain no longer defines the day. That's the future we fight for. Chronic pain steals independence, freedom, and joy. At Spinal Simplicity, we believe patients deserve more—lasting relief, restored mobility, and renewed hope. https://spinalsimplicity.com/ Mainstay Medical: Mainstay Medical is a global medical device company offering a new therapeutic solution for people suffering from mechanical chronic low back pain (CLBP). ReActiv8 is a restorative therapy designed to address impaired neuromuscular control and multifidus dysfunction linked to CLBP. We aim to transform lives everyday by improving function and alleviating pain. https://mainstaymedical.com/ SPR: SPR is advancing pain management with the SPR® SPRINT® PNS System — a non-opioid, non-surgical, minimally invasive First-Line PNS™ treatment designed to provide significant and sustained relief. Backed by the largest body of clinical evidence in PNS, SPRINT PNS offers a clinically proven, patient-centric and non-surgical alternative to more invasive options. https://www.sprpainrelief.com/ Biotronik: At BIOTRONIK Neuro, we're ready to redefine relief for patients experiencing chronic pain. Leveraging BIOTRONIK's advanced cardiovascular technologies, BIOTRONIK Neuro has created a new approach to SCS therapy management: one that's not just implanted, but truly connected to the needs of patients and providers.  https://www.biotronik.com/en-us/professionals/prospera-scs Lembas Health:  Lembas Health is revolutionizing nutrition care delivery by providing the first practice-integrated nutrition therapy platform for orthopedic and pain management practices. The Lembas AI-assisted platform enables physicians to offer patients personalized, evidence-based nutrition care while generating meaningful revenue through seamless reimbursable billing integration, with no added burdens.  https://www.lembashealth.com/  

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In this episode, our guests, Dr. Jason Pope and Dr. Jonathan Goree, break down and simplify closed loop spinal cord stimulation. They discuss how this therapy has changed their clinical practice. Disclosers: Dr. Pope and Goree are paid consultants...

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