EPISODE · Apr 7, 2026 · 23 MIN
Boundaries 101: From Chaos to Clarity with Jennifer Johnson (Rise Season 2, Episode 13)
from Rise: Hope and Healing Podcast · host MaryAnn Michaelis, LCSW, CSAT, CPTT
Stepping into one of the most requested—and misunderstood—topics: Boundaries, in this episode, Jennifer Johnson CMHC, CSAT, CPTT and MaryAnn Michaelis, LCSW, CSAT, CPTT break down what boundaries actually are, what they aren’t, and why they can feel so difficult—especially after betrayal. What Boundaries Are (And Aren’t) What Boundaries Are Not Punishment Control Ultimatums What Boundaries Actually Are Boundaries are about creating emotional safety for you. It’s not about controlling them—it’s about taking care of you. Boundaries vs. Rules Rules Focus on Them “You need to stop…” “You have to…” Boundaries Focus on You “If this happens, this is what I will do.” This shift moves you from: Powerless → Empowered Reactive → Grounded Why Boundaries Feel So Hard Common Trauma Responses After betrayal, it’s normal to: Feel frozen or powerless Swing from no boundaries → extreme boundaries Confuse control with safety These are trauma responses—not failures. The “All or Nothing” Trap What Many People Assume Boundaries only look like: Separation Sleeping apart Divorce What Boundaries Can Actually Look Like Taking space Going for a walk Pausing before responding Reaching out for support Boundaries create safety—not punishment or forced distance. The Key to Boundaries That Hold: Your “Why” Without a Why Boundaries feel inconsistent You second-guess yourself They often collapse With a Clear Why You feel grounded You stay consistent Communication becomes more effective Understanding: What triggered you Why it matters What you need …creates sustainable boundaries. Boundaries Are Internal Work What Boundaries Really Do Reclaim your voice Clarify your needs Restore a sense of control After betrayal, boundaries become a way to say: “I choose how I take care of me.” If Boundaries Feel Hard A Gentle Reminder This is normal This is a process You don’t have to do it perfectly Boundaries can feel especially difficult when you still want: Connection Safety Repair You’re not doing it wrong—you’re learning something new. What’s Coming Next This episode begins a deeper series on: Bottom Lines and Safety vs. Punitive Control Boundaries Abandonment and Attachment Holding Boundaries when the Other Person Pushes Back When Boundaries Lead to Relationship Change Share & Connect If this episode helped you: Share it with someone who needs support Leave a review Watch on our Human Intimacy YouTube channel Our goal is to help as many people as possible find hope, clarity, and healing.
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