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EPISODE · May 11, 2026 · 35 MIN

Bridging the Gap Between Spine Surgery and Interventional Pain

from Pain Unfiltered · host Patrick Buchanan, MD and Timothy Deer, MD

In this episode, we sit down with esteemed neurosurgeons Dr. Michael Dorsi and Dr. Justine Pearl to explore the evolving intersection of spine surgery and pain management. The group discusses the criteria for patient referrals, the impact of the American Society of Pain & Neuroscience (ASPN), and the future of emerging technologies like spinal cord stimulation and minimally invasive decompressions.  Host, Patrick Buchanan, MD: Dr. Buchanan is double board certified in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation and Pain Medicine. His goal is to help his patients get their life back by managing their pain and focus on things they love and enjoy. https://www.californiapaindoctors.com/patrick-buchanan-m-d/ https://www.instagram.com/patdbmd/?hl=en Host, Timothy Deer, MD: Dr. Deer is the president and CEO of the Spine and Nerve Centers of the Virginias. Dr. Deer has led a revolution in interventional spine and nerve care by teaching thousands of physicians an algorithmic approach to care including methods that are less invasive at a lower risk for complications. https://centerforpainrelief.com/about/tim-deer-md/ https://twitter.com/doctdeer?lang=en https://www.instagram.com/timdeer30a/?hl=en Guest, Michael Dorsi, MD: Dr. Dorsi is an Assistant Professor and Director of Community Neurosurgery at UCLA. He is a Board-Certified, Spine Fellowship- trained Neurosurgeon that specializes in minimally invasive spine surgery, brain surgery, and peripheral nerve surgery.  https://www.uclahealth.org/providers/michael-dorsi Guest, Justine Pearl, MD: Justine Pearl, MD, is an Oncologic Neurosurgeon. She joined Munson Neurosurgery in 2020 after working in Flint, Mich. for the prior three years. In addition to general neurosurgery, Dr. Pearl brings neuro-oncology expertise for the treatment of tumors, brain metastasis, gliomas, and more.  https://providers.munsonhealthcare.org/provider/justine-d-pearl/2174481 About ASPN: ASPN was created to bring the top minds in the fields of pain and neuroscience together. ASPN has a mission to improve education, highlight scientific curiosity, establish best practice, and elevate each other in a quest to improve the field of pain and neuroscience. All initiatives of ASPN are dedicated to improving patient outcomes, education, research, and innovation. ASPN's website and social links: https://aspnpain.com https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCixMNhEtOiRm1aQmDWtzxmg https://www.instagram.com/aspn_painneuro/ https://www.facebook.com/PainNeuro https://www.linkedin.com/in/aspn/ https://twitter.com/aspn_painneuro Our Sponsors:   Noctrix Health: At Noctrix Health, Inc. we are developing the next generation of clinically validated wearable therapeutics for the management of chronic neurological disorders.   https://nidrarls.com/   Biotronik:   At BIOTRONIK Neuro, we're ready to redefine relief for patients experiencing chronic pain. Leveraging BIOTRONIK's advanced cardiovascular technologies, BIOTRONIK Neuro has created a new approach to SCS therapy management: one that's not just implanted, but truly connected to the needs of patients and providers.    https://www.biotronik.com/en-us/professionals/prospera-scs  

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