Okay, ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode Jesse Wilder's Guide to Life. I'm Jesse. That's Wilder. We're to guide your life But that's all you got that's all I got I'm keeping it short and sweet baby We got people waiting we do we do drag and shit out gang we got a guest my very good friend She is a host and producer for entertainment tonight and the only reason that I will ever go to the West Side Ashcrossen hi, I you know I said I would come on this podcast if you introduce me as your best friend Oh, oh, oh my what I say yeah, you said very good friend.
Okay Idiot we already fucked it up. Damn it. Okay, well stop recording and we'll try again Yeah, welcome my best friend in the entire world. Thank you.
Ashcrossen. Thank you. Thank you for having me, you know I've done some podcast from time time. I'm loving it Um, but rarely have I just like asked to come on a podcast so many times and I feel like I've been asking you for so I'm like Papping on your podcast.
I'm gonna be on your podcast. Yeah, well, it is a treat but like I'm not bullshitting truly one of my best friends in the world It's true this sweetheart right here. It's true and one of the primary things that we do together I would say is get filthy nasty at brunch Filthy nasty yes, I love brunch. This is the perfect topic great.
So yeah, we're going. It's the brunch episode gang. Yes Welcome to it. Ash if you're not familiar and probably anyone that's listening to this because Ash told them about it Which they're definitely not familiar the way this is gonna work is that we're going to be making a rubric for brunch We're gonna talk about all the aspects of brunch We're gonna rank them in three ways very quite lit being the best very pretty good being the mediumest and very not quite lit being the worst Can I ask because while are you just move la?
I think we know probably has a very strong brunch culture. Yeah, correct I was I lived in New York for the last five years very strong brunch culture there and now the barrier which I would say Not as strong as the other two house house Asheville's brunch obviously it's handy times, but how's their brunch game? It exists pretty limited much like all things in Asheville, but it's there's it's all southern Shout out to Asheville pretty I'm not a bad Ashville named after our guest Ash Crossen. Yep true.
Asheville has a really good like beer scene though I feel like you could very good beer scene if you focus on the beer aspect of the brunch versus like the most I feel like you could Probably find some strong branches there. Okay. Well, this is exactly a good segue because we're talking about yeah Bev's for brunch and I unfortunately for my little baby body I got up a beer and very not quite lit because it's gonna make me to full. Yeah, I agree with that I don't ask where you want beer for brunch.
I agree I think very not quite lit unless this place that we're this hypothetical place we're going has like a bottomless beer or something because I Think the bottomless is a very important Yeah, bottomless for that is a minute is a category. Yeah, I think bottomless is maybe a bonus point Right like if anything is bottom if you're telling me like no, I don't think it's a bonus point though because I won't I won't Brunch without something bottomless. Oh, you have to well that's a lot of I agree with that and the more bottomless options I have the better like there's one place Haring bone in Santa Monica, I don't know if they're stupid But they have you can pick between bottomless mimosa bottomless ros a and then like one other thing and you can actually switch Oh, yeah, I'm a winner for me. You can switch and you can switch between them at any time which is a big Yes, that's amazing huge huge huge I feel like as three people that have all spent a decent amount of time in San Diego during comic con One of their moves down the day Do is bottomless bloody Mary's and that is a fucking nightmare A bloody Mary for me is like a great idea that is never like it just never works for me Like I need like a very tiny like maybe like a shot glass of a bloody Mary to get the day going But I can't have like more than one bloody Mary and usually I won't even finish the first one It's true It's almost like a milkshake like I need to split it with someone I like the idea and then I get it you do not want to get full of tomato juice for your brunch My freak ass dad loves a virgin bloody Mary.
So just like you just like soup Okay, this bacho very not quite lit. I think for beverages. Yeah bloody is gotta be a two I think yeah, I think I like the concept of a bloody I don't think it's like a very not quite lit But it's yeah, it doesn't totally work for me Also, what's really important here and we can get into this later if you want to say the ratio of the mimosa's because if you have Almost all OJ with a little bit of champagne. That's very not quite lit for me.
I think mimosa is its own category Yeah, cuz I need I need almost all champagne, which is like a little just like waft the OJ into there I don't even pour yeah a spritz tops because here's the trick mimosa's do taste like shit no matter what so what you might as well Not have to fucking give me the orange. Give me a splash. Oh, I feel the off. Okay, so this is my mimosa guy No, here's the problem taste is a ten out of ten for me I love the taste of a mimosa because I love orange juice and I don't mind champagne and I love the bubbles yummy But here's my issue.
It's you know, it knocks me on my it's it gives me But like if I drink like more than two mimosas by the time five o'clock rolls around That's you no matter what you consume sleep juice come on man It doesn't do that to you guys. I feel like mimosa is just a sleep potion It's just give me so much stamina like I could go forever the problem is their power I their power juice. I will hit a wall with a mimosa probably after about like I don't know like ten Is that unreasonable to drink ten? No, I would also say that ash and I bonded originally over the fact that we were just all about Throw it back as many as we could a lot of these places, you know You sit down and like okay, you have like a 90 to minute to like two hour limit and I'm like, okay Fuck you, but also bring it on baby.
It's a challenge. I see it as a challenge. Yes. Yes.
Correct. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes Of course can a challenge be a bonus point a brunch chat like yeah, I do like a challenge. Yeah Yeah, also if you're gonna give me the 90 minute limit you better be like slightly flexible about it and topping off my Momosa as I'm paying the check because I just hate when they're like hard asses about it driving us talk about that Yes, very not quite lit is service that ignore you when you're trying to get your fucking bottomless on mm-hmm Yes, I the thing is it's called a bottomless mimosa. I do not want to see the bottom of my bottomless mimosa That's the point so when you're sitting there with an empty glass It's like okay.
This is the bottomless mimosa shout out to the anchor in Venice who they do a very good job of not letting you see the Bottom they are great. Everybody gets the same server there. It's the guy. I believe his name is Kevin and Shout out to Kevin because one time I dad slipped in the bathroom and he found him and helped him up Kevin the hero Kevin the hero but I think Kevin the anchor in Venice is my favorite brunch spot in like all of LA because We can get into this kind of part of it too is like the dress the dress code is Venice It's whatever you want to wear and sometimes in LA Brunch's can feel like a performance that you have to go through I got like shower and curl my hair and I'm like it is Saturday morning Let me roll out of bed and just like pound some of Moses, you know in Venice Can we can we say then vibe is a category because I do think of yeah the vibe at a brunch is important.
Yes I've also got two more categories just to throw out maybe and we'll maybe combine these day and time. Yes Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, so I'm really torn on day because Like in my heart obviously Saturday is better because you're gonna be hungover. However, there's just something about Sunday morning brunch You know I'm with you like Sunday such like a brunch day vibe And you can kind of like do the mimosa's and then just kind of like be in bed at like the proper time if you want Saturday that will never happen that will never happen for me like Ash Ash will go to bed at five If she needs to but smashly when she comes out. Yeah, there's no rules She changes the game but I love I Saturday brunch is great because but it's also dangerous because you just like you know We should do keep going one time my friend Scott and I got bottomless mimosa's on a Saturday They cut us off after 90 minutes.
We went to another location. I just restarted bottomless mimosa's at a different restaurant Yeah, and that is really you can't that's I think that's my issue with mimosa's is that I I don't keep going if I keep going Right, it's like I drink all this shit about before 3 p.m And then I'm it's night night time But yeah, if you just are like at noon you're like well I'm committed now and it's just gonna be I'm switching from mimosa's to beers or whatever And I think that that like on Saturday like you guys said is essential Otherwise you've ruined a Saturday and potentially a Sunday switch to beer beers become my net So throughout all quarantine I pretty much gave up beer and drink nothing but seltzer It was my quest to find every possible seltzer that exists and now beer is hard. I'm with you I've been on like such a seltzer kick that I find it really hard to go back and drink a beer Yeah, I mean my alternative is cocktails, which it feels I just didn't want to say I was drinking cocktails at 1 p.m But that's like what's actually happening probably I could yeah I could get behind like a margarita brunch, but I just like what why restaurants so behind and like getting the seltzer's on the menu Like I have a few that I go to that like well have one but it'll be like a mango white claw And I'm like just get me like a good old bon viv. Yeah, yeah, so is that okay?
But I think that that's actually a great that is a great brunch drink Do we want to put that as a three like a spike seltzer pop it in very quite lit seltzer? Yeah, I mean let's say we're not going Let's say we're brunching at someone's house. That's what I'm wanting to drink I'm not going the bottle. I'm going the seltzer out.
Let me nominate a very quite lit time 1130 is that too early for everybody no that's like that's prime for me. Yeah, I love it Yes, this is great I was afraid we were gonna have to have this fight cuz I know a lot of people were like let's brunch It's 2 p.m. And I'm like oh just call it lunch, baby. It's fine It's not even lunch at that point right you kind of teeter on you teeter on like the because like some of them Like okay last one most important two or three or whatever so if you're starting brunch at like one or two I get I get nervous.
I'm like we gotta maximize this right the like late afternoon is a we call that a two or one It's a one that's not for me. Yeah, I would rather start at nine a hundred percent Which sounds ridiculous that like to yeah like I would rather get behind like a 10 a.m. As much as it would suck to pull myself out of bed Versus like a look at you we are missing a crucial category, which of course is food Yeah, we eat though. I so that's my thing I am willing to eat not great food in exchange for a great bottomless deal.
Yeah, I think that's I would agree with that food is secondary to me At brunch so it goes about saying this is a boot like a dry brunch toss it toss it toss it in the trash Is that is that vibe or is that bevs? I mean it's not really a bev. It's the opposite of a bev I get this I think it's a vibe because if you're going to drive brunch, I don't need you like go to church already She's a nerd a bit to bed. Okay, I did because we're in vibe I know you just brought up food, but I want to go back to the point Ash was making about the like Performance brunch.
Yeah, we agree. That's a lit. It's I like it a little bit like it's a two right? It's not a full one explain what you like about it I just like any amount I mean I kind of like cuz like it's the same reason you would like anything fancy.
Well, you're a showman. Yeah, that's correct Yes, you're dealing with the greatest showman. No, I just like I like the idea of being like oh, you know what? I'm gonna get a little spiffy for this for this event But is that is that just me see I like yeah, I don't know I like to like water just like a down and dirty brunch and sometimes I feel like I don't want to go to West Hollywood and be the ugliest person They're just like getting trashed on the Moses like I yeah, I need filthy nasty vibe And also I feel like in an ideal brunch situation.
We're already hungover right we're going to brunch to save ourselves or hangover So I'm not trying to get I'm not trying to get all dalled up for this I want to crawl to brunch and that's where I come back to life. Yeah, right? But that you know that that's not an issue for me wilder. So I never had that yeah Ash listen to this fucking bullshit McGrath doesn't get hangovers.
Oh, that's cute. I Feel like I could say that about I could say that in like college or something like yeah, I don't really get hungover But like no no my 30s that is fucking infuriating Sorry, it's all but on my fancy hat and my nice suit. Yeah, I'll be brunching alone you Up at 8 a.m. Okay, what do we have for brunch?
I like a Benny classic. Yes. Oh my god We're on the same page. I love when they have seafood like it's a heavy seafood menu and like a nice like like salmon Benedict We're great.
I'm lost her. Also wilder. I know you're gonna be on board with me for this one when they have oysters on the apps menu That is that's a must for me. I have to get them if I see them and dollar oysters even better sometimes you get that with brunch Yes, okay, so is I want deals baby I mean, I see the five as deals.
Yeah Okay, so Benny's seafood all good crispy bacon Ultra crispy bacon there is We put the moose so this is okay Yeah, I was thinking about this because it's very good for me But it's got to be a two and I think that is just like big diner energy is like what that is explain the moose to Ash So Ash we in college there was this diner near as of state shut up to a boulevard cafe And they had lots of diner for the menu but they had this thing called the moose and it's just biscuits and gravy and bacon and cheese and onion and It's just a hash brown huge mess and then if you wanted to add you could make it the mighty moose and get a piece of country fried steak with it Wow, and I love that and it's a little bit of a challenge which we talked about but I can't I can't in good Conters give it a three no it's not a three things like that that like big concept it gets in the way of my drinking right? So for me, it's like it's almost like it's like it's too heavy It's like a game-ender for me. It'll like take me out for a little bit That's how I get a hangover is like go eat like a six pounds of biscuits and gravy like a food hangover you create right? Yeah, so big greasy spoon I think I can appreciate it, but it's not it's not elite I don't I mean as much as I just said I like the performance brunch.
I don't need fucking fancy pants food I don't like little tiny servings and shit like that. I mean a quiche a quiche is fine But if you're gonna charge me like twenty nine dollars for a small slice of quiche, I'm out You know like I don't need that shit in my life. Okay, New York No, it's been twenty nine dollars for a slice of quiche look man But I do like tapas like I do like you know We're particularly like what if we got a little things and we just all like picked it back I'm really there to drink you know, it's yeah We this is our podcast is strong advocates for small plates at all times so I love some of it's not a conotosco It's a classic part of the millennial brunch. I like it I would say very pretty good almost forgive me want to give it a very quite lit because it's not gonna It's gonna get the job done and it's not gonna make me feel too heavy and gross if I'm allowed to order that as my entree Per the rules of the restaurant.
I would probably get it. Hmm. Okay. I'll take it as a three I mean I can think nothing wrong of it other than it has like a There is like a you know connotation that goes with it or like a like the avocado toast, but it's fucking good I mean there's like it's like and you know I've been to places where it's like you can add like a soft-willed egg to it So what is our what is our very not quite lit food look like what is some bad brunch food like to you?
I don't like like a ton of fried stuff. That's like that's like a whole menu. I don't really like that Also, if someone gets like a salad, I feel like there's always a brunch burger and I never want yeah It's yeah, I just can't fuck people love eggs on burgers and I don't get it. It's such a mess They're so messy.
I'd sit neither. Do you guys stick to typically breakfast food or do you feel like you dabble into lunch fairly frequently? Mostly I stick with a breakfast option, but from time and time like I could go to for like a nice like pinini if that was on the menu or Yeah, I was just about to say a pinini I Yeah, sandwich is the thing that I'll switch to like for and then what else the other thing that happens when I get lunch Is it allows me to order a supplemental beverage my favorite thing on the planet a delicious Coca-Cola? Oh?
Yeah, I mean as far as bebs go that's a soda pop is a two I guess I would put it as a one But I'll you for that I've I really like to go to a place that has good pastries and just get I mean that's small I guess but like just order like we are gonna order for the table like three don't it donuts like two croissants a plate of cookies that Just a bakery assortment yeah, I'm into that but like we're building our perfect brunch So like do you better fix your fucking menu so that you are serving us the amount of things for people? You know what I mean? Don't bring people three little donuts right right and I need savory also Like I listen a bunch of sweet things, but like I do need like a little like a little hand pie like a little meat hand pie or something like that You do do a hand pie everyone that's what they always say about me is that I need my hand pies We made a whole category from a Moses and we did not talk about like I think orange juice is a very pretty good There's also different types of like pulp density that goes into each of the orange juice But then yeah, there's also there's also other things that I don't think are actually called the Moses But they're like you know they put like the juices in there the Bellini I can fuck with the Bellini I can mess with the Bellini. Yeah, what's the best use for you?
Well, what's your ideal? Well, it's tough because I said or she's very pretty good But I can't think of them because like sometimes it's different from restaurant restaurant sometimes I've been places where like wow this watermelon most is amazing and other places it tastes like a Jolly Rancher is too sweet Yeah, the sweetness can really take me out and also the quality of the champagne because I got to say I Hate Andre the brand Andre. It's true. It's so it's such a sweet champagne and also It's only like I don't know these I don't have exact numbers in front me, but compared to other champions It's like 4% less alcohol than other you don't have the exact numbers in front of you.
Okay, pull them up water Let me know I learned about myself and it sucks But like I do require nice champagne because I thought I hate a champagne until every now and then you go to somewhere Where they serve you something nice and you're like, oh fuck this is good, right? Yeah, it's like you just realize you were drinking Andre and honestly by cooks I think it's like the same price just way better way drier. Yeah, it's better I think for me my perfect mimosie. I want to so we're already it's already mostly champagne, right?
So that last eighth cost me some like pomegranate juice I think okay I can get a pomegranate. I can get a pomegranate. That's what I meant cranberry. Sorry.
Oh, I can get behind a cranberry. Yeah, that's fine I was I'm more into pomegranate. I know I said I'm good They're so tart little pome bottles. Yeah, so because of the tart as opposed to the sweet of the orange juice I would go like a grapefruit.
I think would be pretty good. Oh, I do enjoy a great room. I'm so I do enjoy Damn, I'm bummed that it's fucking Monday afternoon, and I don't get to have any brunch for I know and I didn't do brunch this weekend We'll have a bunch of a while, but I Guys and we all get together guess what we're doing. Yeah, bro You turn me on to this place shout out to Jimmy's famous American tavern because they got them insane bloody Mary's Oh, yeah, the one actually I think But yeah, that's like a that's like a chain restaurant, but it's surprisingly really good there brunch is really good They have like they call the meal Mary and it just comes with like a slider and like a piece of barbecue shrimp and a cheese cube And it's like oh my god, you know, you know what town does brunch the best do we beach Delaware?
Yeah, okay, rep the hometown Let me rep the hometown a little bit There's a place called starboard and you can order a bloody Mary that is basically like in a picture and they just like throw a ton of crab Meat in it, so there's just a fresh blue crab meat in the bottom. It's so good They also have things called like crushes there So they have these little crush machines and they'll basically give you like a glass of vodka with like a great fruit crushed into it Which you know like low calorie but also very delicious. Yeah, that sounds amazing That I believe my girlfriend and all her friends often go to do We beach and that is I think a primary use case of that trip is brunch is brunch at the starboard on Sundays Honestly, if you ever take a trip there Make sure you book through Monday because you're gonna be very upset if you have to leave on Sunday because it just is so lit And they also do this thing that I think we could talk about vibe wise Reservations, and if I don't make one am I allowed to hang out at the bar for a bit while I wait for my table? Am I allowed to start my bottle with them?
Over yeah, yeah, I do love the bar transfer shout out to bar bricks and silver they so they had a time limit But what they do is it's just a time limit for the table really so you can just move your shit over to the bar afterwards and keep going Yeah, that's perfect. Oh, so it's the reverse. It's not wait at the bar for your table It's go to you from your table to the bar and the no reservations thing like that. Yeah get fucked Oh, yeah, I do need a res I would like to make a reservation Please doesn't have to be reservation only but like give me the option right right yeah I there was there was a the aerial restaurant in Santa Monica that was like really popular brunch about that crow closed down over And I absolutely no reason I have a lot of questions about that but they did not accept reservations So I would literally be like okay guys we're going at 1030 when they open and getting a table because otherwise You're looking at it's you're looking at it's you wait and it's not like you can go to the bar and hang out while you're waiting If you can do that if that's the option I'm fine with that.
Oh, whatever should be a rule at literally every restaurant So this is a this is a thing you just mentioned that I is very popular not popular I guess but like on this isn't whatever the opposite of a shout out is to Portland Portland got a big brunch scene and part of the brunch scene there is Waiting big fucking lines everywhere always the two-hour line and I cannot hang with but that one place I believe it's called the screen door shout out to Max the cat who lives on that street. Yeah our big fan Max the cat Yeah, they do let you drink like in front of the road You have to like huddle and clutch the side it's kind of actually unpleasant to be drinking so close to the sidewalk Yeah, I just can't that was a big thing in New York to where it was like oh, yeah, it's a you know like a two-hour wait like okay Well, I'm hungry now though Wait, yeah, what do you guys like a spritz? Oh? I don't mind a spritz at all like an aperol Like a spritz or like a what's a is an agronia?
I don't drink any of these drinks. No aperol spritz is a spritz aperol spritz Yes, I could get nasty on those my problem is I'm I drink like a very consistent pace And so if I start with the with the hard liquor too early, it's gonna be game over quite early for me I'm here for the stamina, you know, it's true. It's true I think I'm just gonna put hard alcohol because that is my it truly is my move like where I'll get if they have like a Like a tasty little cocktail maybe like a little something light and flirty and fun for brunch like a gin somebody I'll get that but you're not wrong that it is like you if you keep going your toast your absolute toast You know what a lot of places do which I fall for it every fucking time I think it's gonna be such a great one But a lot of places got some kind of creamy coffee cocktail Right, it's like coffee and Bailey's and I'm always like oh is that that's exactly what I need right now And then your six cups of coffee deep and six shots of Bailey's deep and you feel like you want to die and shake your pants Is that a one then boozy coffee? I think so.
Yeah, but wait for bev's regular coffee You guys double fist you order like a cocktail and a coffee Oh, I already taught yeah I mean at least at least double fist probably quadruple because I got water because you know water and your soty and my So my coffee and my mosey you're an embarrassment and I bring a funnel you know hungover I am based on how many drinks I order at the time. I'm like hey Can I get a water and a nice tea and a mamosa? That's that means I had a night the night before I was like oh, let me get a mose I'm gonna get around to it some water But first I need my orange juice and champagne, please Vibe also I think very quite lit I assume we're all gonna agree that maybe not stupid McGrath but outdoor like a patio Yeah, I knew you were gonna say this big Joe doesn't like to sit outdoors Yeah, I don't but I mean if it's we have a there's no we have a tiebreaker with a guest So I mean if you guys both say that that's a three I mean that's fine being outside eating like eating outside like eating out of patio Or something yeah for me That's like coin essential brunch is like being outside on some sort of patio or like rooftop or leg or at least Rooftop is such a very quite lit if I'm inside has some sort of like very specific ambiance lots of plants I need to feel like I'm outside yeah garden. Yeah, that's the okay That's see that's my ideal feeling like you're outside without you being outside I love a big one of those places with a big window opens in the front You know I'm saying like the we're feels like a restaurant because has a garage door in the front basically That's the shit I like yeah, you're bubble boy.
You can't touch the outdoors I could taste the outside, but I don't have to be there. There's just bugs and sun you rooftop though You said rooftop ash and that is too money. I love that rooftop. Yeah, Santa Monica doesn't have enough rooftop options I think LA in general shockingly does not have enough.
Yeah, I probably earthquakes, right? Do we think that's why? No, that would be no. I don't get it It's so stupid because LA is sunny 360 days a year and has such a little outdoor restaurant space Yeah, it baffles me and New York is has less space and it's fucking cold six months a year and like every coffee shop has a rooftop So I'm out London has every fucking building has a rooftop and it's foggy and rainy every single day Yeah, it must be some weird permit thing cuz that's what I was though people people always like you know tourists come by and like Main Street all the time and they're like hey like we're gonna get food where I can overlook the water and I'm like nowhere like nowhere Yeah, in Santa Monica, you know to the lobster on the pier or bubba gump.
Otherwise, you're pretty much as well I guess you're like Del Frisco's gump You better put that out of three The pier is interesting though because I am not so against a little ferris wheel action Yeah, we've been on that thing together. Mm-hmm is is pier or overlooking water? Is that like a where we calling that a three is that different than eating outside? I think is it too because it does come with everyone that's at the pier I also don't think there's a place there to get actual like nothing bottom was I don't think it happened at the pier No, definitely not Time how long are you guys trying to spend it brunch because I do there is a point where I do want to get the fuck up and like now Go to do yeah real life things we say three hours max.
Oh, I was like I want to be there like three or four hours. Oh, well, I think it depends if it's for not that I would be at a non-bottomless brunch But especially if it's non-bottomless, I can't be there all day and spend $6,000 non-bottomless get me out of there in 30 minutes I also start to feel bad for the staff if I've been drinking for three hours straight and they're still filling up my drinks I'm like we gotta go before they kick us out. I kind of let them I kind of let their vibe dictate what I'm doing So if they keep coming around and filling it up without like saying or there's like oh more and more you want more I'm like, yeah, yep I guess I'm gonna stay here, but if they start like not coming around as much I'm like, okay Can we get one more in the check and we'll like kind of wrap it up from here truly shout out to the servers that keep it hooked up Yeah, you know, they're such important people like Kevin at the anchor is a saint for everything To speak on that like because we've done so much branching at comic-con what's great about that exact situation is that there is very few instances When we are the worst people in a place. Yes, I love I love when I can look around and I know I'm like I'm not the drunkest girl this party So and then for time I think on the other end is like to have not so much like a specific time limit but like to have a hard out like Okay, we're going to brunch But we have to have to be done by noon like no I need to I need a loose like free up your schedule for the day if we're having brunch, please Yeah I also think like just the time limit being like firmly established by the restaurant can be is very not quite like if they're like Hey, this is your last one and that will be 19 minutes and I'm like well We didn't even order until like 15 minutes and it's like yeah, you know Especially for time reasons and not belligerent reasons.
Yeah kicking you out for time. Yeah, I've somehow managed to never get kicked out of a bar or restaurant I don't understand how I'm on so tomorrow time But Wilder I don't want to say that's not true But I was with you one time at a place called Harvard and Stone oh and hey well that was your friend's fault. I Was framed Yeah, do you lie about that that's crazy I did forget about that very instance. I've never been I've never been kicked out for like My own personality or it's always just been like hey like we're closing right I've left places because I knew I was going to get kicked out You know it's like I have work because I know like okay Well, I'm weird I can see the looks we're done here Oh, I got a very quiet bed for you going I got a toss in an underburg.
Yeah, you love underburg. I'm down for it I do before and after no not before I can't relax yourself before and after again the meal in underburg Baby I like a I like a place with a specialty. Yeah, oh this place is pancakes are through the roof like this place has the best Uh-huh I'm with you on that like I know I keep bringing up the anger But they have lobster on like everything that's their thing and I just Is so lovely it is lovely. What's our squad look like?
Oh, you got a squad you love to put a squad in here I love a squad and what and what what was the idea of people? I think like four to six is probably ideal Yeah, I was gonna say no more than five, but I could go with four to six. I like a good even number. Yeah, makes me split These better.
Oh, that's something we got to talk about too. It was just like the check situation I know it's true as soon as I said it if you have signed up to come to brunch everything's getting split evenly Yes, we are split unless you were like I literally didn't get anything like fine make your case But like adult what are you here for? We're just drinking a cup of water the whole time we were getting hammered for three hours That's true then I don't want you in my squad. Yeah, you're right.
We're splitting everything evenly I mean ideally in in a non-pandemic world. We're also splitting a lot of what's on the table anyways Yeah, you're getting a bite of my pancakes. I want to buy that fried chicken like get let me taste that drink We're all getting our nasty spit everywhere. Mm-hmm my typical move it usually especially if I'm in a squad I like four people I know or whatever I'm like, hey, I'm just gonna put all this on my card everyone demo me And then that usually that's like another way that I I will accept fucking shout out to Venmo you remember the before times I don't want to yeah The worst like drawing out cash and shit.
Oh just thinking about trying to draw out a specific number of cash gave me the frickin chills Sorry, I think the shit that my squad used to get into is we would write our last name on the bill and then Write how much we wanted them to charge the card. What fucking nightmare? It never added up right cuz no one was like factoring in tax or tip Everyone and you're actively drunk as hell. Yes, and I was always going to like overpaid.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I think so the other thing this is another big maybe this is a vibe I get tell at this point, but man remember when we went to Toronto Wilder and every single restaurant came over with the single like Point of sale device and without even asking really charged everyone individually and you didn't have to hand them like seven cards They were just like okay. You got the burger and two drinks.
Here's your total exchange your currency and it was so great So fucking good. I like that move to very not quite lit for squad one part brunch for one is probably not good It's not so fun. I can't say I've done it, but I can't imagine it would be that fun It's like a such a bummer. We don't need the guy who gets too drunk all the time.
Obviously toss that dude. Yes Yeah, the shattered champagne glass is never fun. Oh spilling is a nightmare when you're in public That's a vibe. I am such a committer of this crime I you know what I'm I call myself Buzz Spillington cuz I'm so good at spill I'm just like I talk with my hands.
I'm so animated. I will knock it over. I make too many gestures when I'm around people I know it's not quite lit, but yeah, I mean we all have to accept our floss I think one flop of me. I think a two for if I'm a part of this squad is like you're there for a Celebration like a bachelor party or a bachelorette party birthday brunch something like that.
Yeah, I think that that's like fun But can get your I feel you're always almost gonna have more than six people you're gonna have a lot of people You don't maybe know that well So it's like yeah, you end up sitting yeah sitting next to someone they don't want to right or like somebody's co-worker You've never talked to and you have nothing in common with it also makes the next move really hard when there's a lot of people like That's a really important factor is when brunch is any go hey, so what are we doing now? Are we all going home? I hope not there's another bar Is next move a category? I feel like it is I think it is.
Oh yeah after brunch. I think it's very important So to me the easiest very quite lit is walking to another big bar. Yes, like walking. We're not ubering We're not driving.
Yes, cuz we've had 19 bloody Mary's and you want the bar even though you may not get everyone you want the bar to accommodate all the People that you don't like cram into some bullshit spot with a rolling with like, you know, seven people or some shit Yeah, my move usually is like so after the this is very specific But after the anchor walking down to Venice Beach Bar and getting a beer there and like that overlooks the ocean It's a good vibe. You can kind of stand around you don't have to get a table because right now That's what we formulate the next move. Yeah. Yes, and that's we go there to get a drink to talk about the next move Well, so I think it sounds like we're all in agreement that a very quietly at brunch day does not end after brunch like it Sounds like this is a full-on day of day drink.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so one would be ends after brunch And that's so there's I can't name a specific time this is happen But I know it has we're you're the only person that's like available or willing to do another thing or like oh, all right And people are like oh, you know, I got some work to do and that's like yeah, I gotta go home and walk my dog and you're like Jeez, I feel like you know fuck it shout out to Ash. Yeah, you will never pull that shit Ash will always be on board for the next thing always that's oh, that's a squad the on board person right?
Yes, and Yeah, nothing makes you feel like you wasted more calories and like everyone's like let's just go home And you're like, oh my god, I did not just consume all of this for nothing. We are going going go I'm absolutely gonna fall asleep after that right and I hate the brunch nap. I hate when you wake up and it's like five o'clock And you're just like worse the absolute we're brunch now One's ash and I have gone to brunch at the anchor and have ended the night with house party, which is a big fucking day House party is very good. That's a great place to be like a barbecue or something right after brunch You're not eating obviously, but like oh the one where we went to Jacobs Yep, and we fucking it was a big big long brunch then we went day drinking and then we went to a house party where we did power Hour it was a lot Jesus Christ.
It was awful I mean it was great, but it was like trying to do a power hour with seltzer's after a full day of day drinking Let me just say I don't recommend it, but it was so funny because we saw a bunch of people that we hadn't seen in a while That we wanted to be like, oh, hi, how are you? No, we were like trash to walk Like okay, so this is kind of next move, but I like when you're in a city that you're not normally in like you're on Like I'm in Dewey Beach, right? Yes, I'm not there So my next move is to like explore that new city like I'm just gonna hoof it I think one of the best moves especially when you're in a new city is just like the impromptu bark rods Let's walk around and as soon as we see an appealing place We stop and we get a drink then we move on and stop at the next place. Exactly how I travel.
That's yes That's the ideal day. Yeah, it really is just we're designing a perfect day in general And it just revolves around the start I think okay, correct me if I'm wrong Wilder But I think that on one of our birthdays where we went to House of Air, which is a trampoline park at San Francisco We got brunch before oh yeah, that sounds about right honestly would not be surprised if we had the moves I feel confident that we did go to Boulevard cafe before we jumped on a trampoline for three hours Yeah, that feels like the maybe the worst next move huh jump on a trampoline Yeah, who else who else sucks who else does a shitty squad mate? I mean like sober person Button intolerant person. Oh, there's this is it.
This is pure sin We're getting into whatever we want today and I will not be held back Yeah, and dietary restriction people it's fine. You can have your dietary restrictions. They can be fine about it. Yeah, keep that shit to yourself Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're vegan.
That's I'm incredibly happy for you. That is your deal though. Not mine Why not very not quite live bev Butch I do not boot yeah, I can't get down with the boot. Oh, like kombucha.
I haven't I haven't really gotten there yet either How do we don't just have champagne instead of mimos? Yeah, cuz I'm doing like a brunch at my own house or something I will very quickly transfer like I'll do like a first couple as like a mimosa Right, and then I slowly the show the though day starts disappearing little by little and then I'm just drinking lots of champagne Hold on. You brought something up Ash. We have not talked about brunch not at a restaurant.
Yeah, like a house party brunch basically Right, I do like that if the host is gonna fucking get after it and you know what I mean? I do like that for me I think it's I like that too I feel like it's a two only because we talked about how dope it is to have like the servers and it's gotta be a two Yeah, because you don't have to clean up after yourself right because either I'm cleaning up or I'm feeling guilty about not cleaning up But either way, it's like yeah, and a little little coward McGrath will hate this But what about like a DIY brunch picnic Not at the beach because I will not have sand in my brunch, but why a picnic why do you want to sit on the grass dude? Well, we have chairs you could you get a picnic table? I think I prefer the restaurant.
I prefer it too I think I would get picnic at such a one to me unbelievable. Yeah, this is a pretty strong brunch. We've designed here Very strong brunch like our next move. We don't have anything for it to we like not a bar Yeah, maybe like just like it's like let's go back to my place because that can go I mean, I'm not talking about like sexually I'm talking about like friends being like you want to just come over and hang out that could go one that could go either way You know we could turn it up or it could get like we all melt into the couch and start getting snoozy What about a business that does not sell food like a like a museum or a store or I don't what that drains me so fast?
Yeah, no like let's go shopping you shopping is a one to me I cannot be shopping is a one drunk as hell trying to pick out shoes or something Yeah, Daniel and I have done that like in Vegas where we like went to a party and we're like Oh, we need something to wear a night. We went shopping and we got back to LA with our new clothes We're like what the hell do we buy? Like a shiny button down Pool party is a two I think because you are bloated as fuck but you're saying it's a next move Yeah, a lounging little pool party situation would do me right I think if you are gonna have to nap That's a place to do it. Yeah as long as I can get like a blended drink or something.
I'm cool with that Yeah, I mean I think we've talked about a lot but I do think next move gotta be drinking related right we're yeah Vibe hold on. I think a very quite lit hotel Yes, we're all staying at this hotel and we had brunch in the hotel restaurant bar and now we're going out to the pool I love a hotel like the hotel lobby bars are like my favorite bars on earth Yeah, truly I agree and even when they not even talking about like a like a fancy like a Hollywood hotel like I'm talking about like a fucking Marriott I think it's I have a blast drinking that dumb shit bar big time Yeah, especially if you're like a comic con or something those hotel bars are so fun those lobby bars They're way more fun than like any of the restaurants in the gas lamp I agree do you do you guys ever if you ever brunch before? Something like a wedding like a big event. I don't know if I've done kind of an important event I feel like that's a next day move.
Yeah, I definitely like a hat champagne in the morning and by the time I got to the wedding I'm like oh, oh, I thought I was I think day after a wedding is a very quite late time That's very quite late. I agree because then you get to see everyone you get to swap oh swapping stories about the previous night is such a Three I love that shit. Yeah, I've always got questions about how the night ended for certain people after a wedding So yeah, let's discuss this over 25 mimosas Right and then I think if we go to our our squad somebody who wasn't there the night before is a two right like maybe they're I think I won almost like we're gonna because I don't want to feel bad about talking about stuff that they don't know about right Yeah, but and being on the receiving end of it. You had to be there is painful.
It's all just babysitting first You don't want to babysit anyone now I we talked a lot about it But just because we're kind of wrapping up here is the anchor is that y'all's favorite is that like your number one you get one last brunch? That's where you go. I think that's where I go. Yeah, yeah, I could agree unless I think if I'm in like on the East Coast though And I go down to do the it would be starboard mm-hmm, you know I think my ultimate there was this spot in Highland Park called Maximiliano They had this great outdoor patio that was covered in green shrubs across the side kind of felt like you were Inclothes and little thing but still with open air and they did bottomless and the food was great I would fucking roll up on that place and get some shakshuka like a maniac.
Oh shakshuka so good I'll put shakshuka's a three in food, please. Thank you very much I do like like a certain cuisine because a lot of brunch is like it's just like normal brunch fair I do like a good Mexican brunch. Oh big time. Mm-hmm.
Do you I cannot bring myself? Do you get the margarita with the corona sticking out the top? I mean, I haven't done that but I could bring myself to do that for sure. Yeah, I have no problem I haven't done it, but I was at work.
Do they pour the beer into the margarita and just drink them together? I think it's science. Do you have that that beer is flook in that bottle until it's time to come out. That's how it goes I hate that Yeah, I don't I don't want to drink corona through a straw, but if it's like slowly like mixing with the margarita I think I'm going to run it through a straws.
Oh, that's a nightmare. It's all around no good What do we think about your port brunch? Oh well this I could go on another tangent about this But drinking at the airport is one of my favorite things to do on earth It just feels like you paid at a premium fee to get into this exclusive club to hang out with stream I don't know. I love it We've actually talked a lot about drinking at the airport on this podcast because we had an airplane ride episode Yeah So let me just ask I mean since where I'm talking about it You drink at the airport before the flight and then do you keep going through the whole fucking flight because it's it gets hard and expensive To keep a whole fucking flight worth of drinking going and then if not you start to crash Yeah, it really it really depends because I take a lot of red eyes when I go back to the east coast So my move is to get there like pretty early drink at the bar and fall asleep Yeah, and then wake up and it's like morning however if I'm going like on a vacation I'm gonna try to keep that going through the whole flight.
I always try I always think it's a great idea to drink at the airport And then I just get so sleepy. It's so it's such a delicate balance I'm entering a phase of my life where it's I like find ways to upgrade to first class or like to get into first class with points Well, if you can get in the first class situation, they really keep it going for you Yeah, that's another one. You know another one you know another one you're in coach It's like you really gotta you know like push the thing and be like can I have our wine and they're like what's wrong with you Give them your credit card every time you're like can I just please open a tab? We don't have tabs on the plane Take my card.
You're also in the you're in the fire exit You made an agreement I I think that it also depends on the length of the flight like cross country so hard But I'm my next very next flight. I'll be taking is going to be to San Diego and that it from oh yeah They are in a San Diego like good night. I'm gonna get to the airport nice and early I don't have work that day have me a couple of drinks. What is that an hour in the air tops?
That's two three more drinks like that's ideal. We didn't do your ultimate brunch spot Yeah, it's it's tough. I am less of a bruncher than you two for sure I because well for me. I haven't done a proper perfect brunch.
It's true. It's true I've had some very good brunches, but none that I think are like amazing But I will say that Zazis in San Francisco is a quite a good brunch spot. It's got a nice little vibe There is an outdoor space that is fairly non-offensive by my standards and they have just the absolute most slim and pancakes I don't even know if they have a bottomless situation, but it is like everybody gets a different type of pancake We all get dabble in everybody's little pancake mess. It's it's quite good.
So that's that's it for me As far as that goes not a drinking thing just a pancake thing. I got a very not quite lit squad. Go on late late guy Oh, yeah, fucking we're waiting for you. I will not that drives me crazy too I'm on a time crunch.
Yeah, obviously like LA I give LA people like a 20 minute window Like I'm like I'm fine with that. You're gonna be 20 minutes late. Like that's pretty normal But yeah, if I'm like especially if they're like we can't see you into your whole parties here in that situation that and then you're gonna be late on top of that No, that's the fucking worst damn. Did we just smash this or what?
Yeah, we did I have I did just think of one nasty thing that I do want to bring up Go on go for it. What do you guys think of buffets? No Wait, you do find this in a hotel. That's right.
Yeah, pop a couple of little eggies get some big It's not it's gonna be great, but I don't hate it. I Know It's gotta be a very pretty good. I'm not doing it. Listen I like those like maria breakfast buffet situations But if you're like this is our brunch and this is what we're gonna be doing today Absolutely not let's go to a restaurant I can eat breakfast there and then go out for the day But I'm not combining the two and I do love me a little custom made-order omelette station.
They're never good They always taste like fucking trash. Yeah Toss toss on that the make your own waffle station where you're waiting forever while some guy oh my god Oh, no, it's too early at ripped apart. Let me try again. It's a nightmare, but I do it's just a mess of waffle goo everywhere It's very gross Waffle goo is a very not quite lit.
I hate it. Yeah, I like a buffet and it's certainly not a three I could never but like I do I do because it feeds that small plates thing too We're like try a little everything what you got over there a little Benny. You got some taters What is that ham sure why not? Yeah, but it is I mean You're not wrong that a restaurant is objectively better for sure.
So it's five is restaurant. Did we say that already? That's the ultimate brunch location. Yeah, you want a restaurant.
Yeah, no picnics. No buffets Those are all fine, but you want to think yeah Any last anything anyone needs to add final words final shout outs. I love brunch and I love Kevin Yeah, shout out to kev. Shout out one more time.
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