EPISODE · Sep 25, 2025 · 36 MIN
Building the Citizen Defense Industry the Government Fears (ft. T-Rex Arms)
from State of the Second
Isaac Botkin of T. Rex Arms joins Gun Owners of America hosts Kaylee and John to talk about why a holster company spends so much of its time on Second Amendment advocacy. The company is owned by four brothers plus a brother-in-law and operates out of Centerville, Tennessee, about an hour west of Nashville. Eleven years in, T. Rex Arms sells holsters as its flagship product but has grown into nylon goods, plate carriers, chest rigs, weapon lights, magazines, red dots, optics, thermal and night vision, and medical gear. Isaac describes the business as a curated full-service operation rather than the Amazon of the tactical space, and he frames the brand name as a joke: they specialize in small arms. Much of the conversation centers on mission over sales. Isaac explains that T. Rex spent the last few weeks pushing to legalize suppressors even though the company does not sell them, and he describes a holster as a starting point that helps move people from buying a gun and putting it in a closet to actually carrying and accepting the responsibilities that come with it. He calls T. Rex a second amendment and sixth commandment company, ties carrying to the duty to stop a murderer, and lays out their goal of building a broad, decentralized citizen defense industry rather than becoming a single giant source. He encourages new advocates to meet people where they are: you do not need 10,000 hours of range time to teach the four rules of gun safety and take someone to the range. The back half gets into politics and innovation. Isaac names Thomas Massie as his ideal pro-gun candidate, an engineer who understands automation and economics, and points to Senator Bill Haggerty's focus on manufacturing and reindustrializing the country. His biggest pet peeve with politicians is cowardice on issues voters actually want them to touch, like the 90-year-old short-barreled weapon ban. He argues that artificial limits, from the NFA tax stamp to rules blocking domestic rare earth magnets and lithium battery production, stifle the innovation firearms have historically driven, citing Eli Whitney and interchangeable parts. He warns that the idea that government can declare a shape of matter illegal poisons the freedom to think and build well beyond firearms. He closes by pointing listeners to the T. Rex Arms YouTube channel and their podcast, T Rex Talk. Questions this episode answers What is T. Rex Arms and what does the company actually sell? T. Rex Arms is a family-owned tactical company in Centerville, Tennessee, owned by four brothers plus a brother-in-law and eleven years in business. Holsters are its flagship, but it has grown into plate carriers, chest rigs, weapon lights, magazines, optics, thermal and night vision, and medical gear. Why does a holster company spend so much time on Second Amendment advocacy? Isaac Botkin frames advocacy as the mission behind the products, putting cause over sales. He sees a holster as a starting point that moves people from buying a gun and leaving it in a closet to actually carrying it and accepting the responsibilities that come with it. What does Isaac Botkin mean by calling T. Rex a second amendment and sixth commandment company? Botkin ties the right to carry to a moral duty to stop a murderer, pairing Second Amendment freedom with the sixth commandment against killing. For T. Rex, carrying a firearm is about accepting the responsibility to protect innocent life, not just exercising a right. How can someone new to firearms become an advocate without years of training? Botkin says you do not need 10,000 hours of range time to make a difference. Meet people where they are: you can teach the four rules of gun safety and take someone to the range, helping grow a broad, decentralized citizen defense industry rather than relying on a few experts. Why did T. Rex push to legalize suppressors when they do not sell them? T. Rex spent recent weeks pushing to legalize suppressors despite not selling them, because the company puts the mission ahead of its own sales. The goal is a broad citizen defense industry where many companies advance gun rights, not a single giant source. What does Isaac see as the biggest artificial limits holding back firearms innovation? Botkin points to limits like the National Firearms Act tax stamp, the roughly 90-year-old short-barreled weapon ban, and rules blocking domestic rare earth magnet and lithium battery production, arguing they stifle the innovation firearms have historically driven. Who does Isaac Botkin name as his ideal pro-gun candidate, and why? Botkin names Thomas Massie as his ideal pro-gun candidate, an engineer who understands automation and economics. He also points to Senator Bill Haggerty's focus on manufacturing and reindustrializing the country. Why is the company named T. Rex Arms? The name is a joke. With its short arms, the T. rex specializes in small arms, which is exactly what the company makes. Chapters 00:00 — Welcome and introducing Isaac Botkin 00:45 — Rapid Fire questions 03:00 — What T. Rex Arms is and what it sells 04:49 — Working in a family-owned business 06:26 — Why T. Rex advocates on state-level gun policy 11:09 — From gun owner to concealed carrier 13:57 — Advice for new firearms advocates 15:45 — The ideal pro-gun candidate and Thomas Massie 18:09 — Suppressors and putting mission first 20:04 — Building a broad citizen defense industry 21:55 — Why holsters and what makes the design different 24:39 — The story behind the T. Rex Arms name 25:31 — Soapbox: cowardice and artificial limits on innovation 31:23 — History, ideas have consequences, and closing About the guest Isaac Botkin is from T. Rex Arms, a holster and tactical gear company based in Centerville, Tennessee, about an hour west of Nashville. The company is owned by four brothers plus a brother-in-law and is 11 years in business. His father was a video producer in the 80s and 90s and taught the brothers both video production and political and firearm activism, and Isaac worked on Gun Owners of America videos his dad made when he was about 10 or 11 years old. His youngest brother Noah runs their web development company, and he references brothers David and Lucas in the episode. Isaac is slated to appear on a firearms innovation and technology panel at GOALS. Key quotes "My brother David has a saying like a holster is like a business card for freedom." — Isaac Botkin "Our goal is to build a citizen defense industry that is broad. And our goal is to see a number of companies kind of do what we're doing." — Isaac Botkin "We take our products very seriously. We take our customers very seriously. We don't take ourselves that seriously." — Isaac Botkin "If you don't have 10,000 hours of range time, don't worry about that." — Isaac Botkin "We spent a lot of time over the last few weeks talking about suppressors, getting people to legalize suppressors. We still don't sell suppressors." — Isaac Botkin "It's like a lot of voters want you to touch it. Sir, please do not be afraid of something we don't even know what you're afraid of." — Isaac Botkin "Small arms are our specialty." — Isaac Botkin
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