EPISODE · Apr 29, 2026 · 41 MIN
Building the Next Great American City | Esmeralda CEO Devon Zuegel
from Forecast 2050 · host Nebular
Devon Zuegel believes America has been building cities wrong for decades. She grew up spending summers in Chautauqua, an intellectual community in western New York where four generations of her family shared a household and she knew her neighbors better than the ones at home in California. Now she's building a village called Esmeralda 90 minutes north of San Francisco to prove that formula can be replicated.I sat down with Devon in San Francisco to talk about harnessing urban planning as a powerful technological force for good, age-segregation in America and the impending population crisis, and why we need more incredible cities popping up across the country over the next 25 years.Extended Show Notes: https://finnmurphyirl.substack.com/p/8bcb1293-d2f5-4c6c-a133-8a6d0826b839Transcript (with helpful links!): https://finnmurphyirl.substack.com/p/forecast-2050-episode-7-devon-zuegel?r=25ihqz&triedRedirect=trueChapters:00:00 Intro01:07 Chautauqua Inspires Esmeralda03:02 Cities Are A Technology06:33 The Autonomous Vehicle Takeover10:02 The New Multigenerational Society13:29 American Colleges Make the Economy Dynamic, but Break Up Families17:39 Remote Work and the Expansion of the Metropolis19:55 A Real Alternative to the Suburb/City Dilemma22:21 Real Life Is The Classroom26:04 Esmeralda’s Open Door Policy27:59 Making Cities Worth Living In32:51 The NIMBY Problem35:10 The Digital-Physical Divergence38:29 The Cities That Have Gotten It Right BeforeDevon Zuegel is the founder and president of the Esmeralda Institute, where she is building Esmeralda, a village of the future just 90 minutes north of San Francisco envisioned as a Chautauqua for Silicon Valley.Devon on X: https://x.com/devonzuegelDevon’s Personal Site: https://devonzuegel.com/Esmeralda Institute: https://esmeralda.org/Forecast 2050 is a series about the next 25 years—and the builders, thinkers, and leaders shaping what comes next. Finn on X: https://x.com/FinnMurphy12Finn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finn-murphy-16160465/Nebular is a venture capital firm based in New York City. Head to nebular.vc for more info.
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Devon Zuegel believes America has been building cities wrong for decades. She grew up spending summers in Chautauqua, an intellectual community in western New York where four generations of her family shared a household and she knew her neighbors better than the ones at home in California. Now she's building a village called Esmeralda 90 minutes north of San Francisco to prove that formula can be replicated.I sat down with Devon in San Francisco to talk about harnessing urban planning as a powerful technological force for good, age-segregation in America and the impending population crisis, and why we need more incredible cities popping up across the country over the next 25 years.Extended Show Notes: https://finnmurphyirl.substack.com/p/8bcb1293-d2f5-4c6c-a133-8a6d0826b839Transcript (with helpful links!): https://finnmurphyirl.substack.com/p/forecast-2050-episode-7-devon-zuegel?r=25ihqz&triedRedirect=trueChapters:00:00 Intro01:07 Chautauqua Inspires Esmeralda03:02 Cities Are A Technology06:33 The Autonomous Vehicle Takeover10:02 The New Multigenerational Society13:29 American Colleges Make the Economy Dynamic, but Break Up Families17:39 Remote Work and the Expansion of the Metropolis19:55 A Real Alternative to the Suburb/City Dilemma22:21 Real Life Is The Classroom26:04 Esmeralda’s Open Door Policy27:59 Making Cities Worth Living In32:51 The NIMBY Problem35:10 The Digital-Physical Divergence38:29 The Cities That Have Gotten It Right BeforeDevon Zuegel is the founder and president of the Esmeralda Institute, where she is building Esmeralda, a village of the future just 90 minutes north of San Francisco envisioned as a Chautauqua for Silicon Valley.Devon on X: https://x.com/devonzuegelDevon’s Personal Site: https://devonzuegel.com/Esmeralda Institute: https://esmeralda.org/Forecast 2050 is a series about the next 25 years—and the builders, thinkers, and leaders shaping what comes next. Finn on X: https://x.com/FinnMurphy12Finn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finn-murphy-16160465/Nebular is a venture capital firm based in New York City. Head to nebular.vc for more info.
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Building the Next Great American City | Esmeralda CEO Devon Zuegel
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