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EPISODE · Aug 21, 2026 · 45 MIN

Can Nuclear Energy Scale? Tony Roulstone on SMRs, Cost, and Repeatability

from Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy Podcast · host Wes Ashworth

Nuclear energy is having another moment. But enthusiasm alone will not create a nuclear renaissance.The bigger question is whether the industry can finally learn to deliver complex projects predictably, repeatedly, on time, and at a cost investors and utilities can accept.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, sits down with Tony Roulstone, Lecturer in Nuclear Engineering at the University of Cambridge and former Group Managing Director of Rolls-Royce Nuclear Engineering.Tony brings decades of experience spanning nuclear energy, aerospace, complex engineering programs, business transformation, and nuclear education. That perspective leads to a fascinating argument: the biggest breakthroughs nuclear needs may have less to do with reactor physics and more to do with how reactors are manufactured, financed, constructed, and repeated.The conversation begins with a Rolls-Royce aerospace failure that left Boeing 747s waiting for engines. The technology problem ultimately exposed a deeper organizational problem. Tony explains why that lesson still matters for nuclear projects today.From there, Wes and Tony examine one of nuclear energy's fundamental challenges. Building a large reactor can resemble manufacturing an aircraft in a field. Thousands of people, intricate supply chains, enormous documentation requirements, specialized inspections, and long construction timelines make repetition and productivity incredibly difficult.That is where small modular reactors, or SMRs, could change the equation.Tony explains why smaller does not automatically mean cheaper and why the real economic opportunity behind SMRs depends on three principles:Standardization: Stop redesigning the product for every customer and site.Modularization: Move significantly more construction into controlled factory environments.Production learning: Build repeatedly enough for teams, suppliers, and processes to improve from one unit to the next.The discussion also explores advanced nuclear reactors, including high-temperature gas reactors, liquid-metal systems, and molten salt concepts, along with what new reactor technologies could mean for safety and industrial applications.Tony and Wes also confront nuclear's most persistent public challenge: trust. They examine lessons from Chernobyl, the importance of organizational safety culture, and why modern nuclear safety cannot be understood solely through the industry's historical accidents.Finally, they tackle the false choice between nuclear energy and renewable energy. Deep decarbonization will require an entire energy system, including electricity, industrial heat, transportation, storage, renewables, and firm low-carbon generation. The real question is not which technology wins. It is how these resources work together.In this episode:Why technically brilliant projects can still failWhat aerospace can teach nuclear about systems engineeringWhy large nuclear construction struggles with productivityThe real economics behind small modular reactorsWhy SMRs require fleet deployment and repeatable productionStandardization, modularization, and manufacturing learningAdvanced nuclear reactor technologies and their potentialNuclear safety, Chernobyl, and public confidencePrivate capital and the growing nuclear ecosystemWhy nuclear and renewables should not be treated as opposing campsWhat nuclear must accomplish by 2035 to prove it can truly scaleThe ultimate test is simple: nuclear must become predictable.If the industry can turn extraordinary engineering projects into repeatable industrial products that arrive when promised and near the cost promised, nuclear could play a much larger role in the global energy transition.Links: Tony Roulstone on LinkedInWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

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Nuclear energy is having another moment. But enthusiasm alone will not create a nuclear renaissance. The bigger question is whether the industry can finally learn to deliver complex projects predictably, repeatedly, on time, and at a cost investors and utilities can accept. In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, sits down with Tony Roulstone, Lecturer in Nuclear Engineering at the University of Cambridge and former Group ...

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