Caring together W/ Jami Hammel

We're closing out season 6 of the Cultivation Podcast with a very special guest...My wife, Jami Hammel! She joins me for the second time on the podcast for an unscripted discussion as we wrap up the theme of self-care.   We talk about what self-care looks like, overcoming parental guilt, navigating the seasons of life, the need for a date night, supporting each other's hobbies, and sharing success.   See some of our discussion below and be sure to listen so you hear the full, in-depth discussion:   Tom: What is self care to you?  Jami: Self-care is a lot of different things and it looks older when I was younger with young kids. Self-care is a little bit of alone time. I enjoy shopping alone or getting a manicure, pedicare, massage, or getting coffee by myself.     Tom: What would you say to yourself about the guilt of self-care? Jami: There's the "Mom guilt" of feeling we're not taking care of the kids, and you have to realize it's okay to take care of yourself. You can't go, go, go all the time, you need down time.    Tom: How important is self care to a relationship? Jami: Date night is super important, we do it every week. Maybe it's simple, we just go out for coffee and talk...Being intentional is the key because it's never perfect.   Tom: How important is it to support each other's interests and share successes? Jami: It's super important to give you space to do what they love to do, even if it's not your biggest interest.   Tom: I try to be invested in your success. Jamie is a health coach and the face of that, I'm the support of that. So, I'm always trying to figure out where I can help and I'm seeing the reverse investment in myself.  Jami: I wouldn't be as successful without your help and encouragement. And, everyone can do that for their spouse. I think words of encouragement go a long way.