EPISODE · Apr 17, 2026 · 1H 17M
Centers of Intelligence: Gut Check--Living from the Body's Intelligence
from Nine Lives With Jeff King: Live Your Best One · host Jeff King
What does it mean to know something in your gut? The Body Center — home to Enneagram Types 8, 9 and 1 — carries a wisdom that lives below the neck. These three types share a gut-level intelligence rooted in instinct, presence, and an instinctive relationship with anger. But each one navigates that anger in a strikingly different way. This episode features a panel with Joanne Flowers (Type 8), Jack Killen (Type 9), and Trime Persinger (Type 1). Together we dive into an honest, grounded conversation about what it's like to live from the body's intelligence — the drive for right action, the ache for autonomy, and the longing for a peace that doesn't require you to disappear. Whether your own center of intelligence is Head, Heart, or Body, this panel will invite you deeper into the embodied wisdom your soul has been carrying all along. Jack is a featured author in Personality and Wholeness in Therapy. Trime is the author of Crossing the Bridge: Heal Your Relationships with Courageous Communication. Find out more about Trime at https://www.trimepersinger.com
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