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EPISODE · Dec 24, 2025 · 44 MIN

Charlie Kirk was killed on her campus. This is what happened next.

from Reasonably Optimistic · host The Washington Post

After Charlie Kirk’s death on her campus, Utah Valley University president Astrid Tuminez found herself in an impossible position. She was at the helm of Utah’s largest public university and had to find a way to lead her campus after the tragedy. Now, at the end of the fall semester, she joins host Megan McArdle to discuss how her faith, upbringing and love for her community gave her the strength and wisdom to get through. Plus, she shares the lessons she learned through the process to help other leaders — including the president of Brown University — who may find themselves in a similar position.Subscribe to The Washington Post here.

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