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Civilians Replacing Cops? C.S.I.s Frank Carson & Bill Greene & The Future of Law Enforcement

from Cops and Writers Podcast · host Patrick O'Donnell / Frank Carson / Bill Greene

Send us Fan MailWith historical shortages in law enforcement, today's departments have to find ways of augmenting positions that were traditionally filled by sworn law enforcement officers. One option is to have civilians working these jobs. On today’s show, we will be highlighting the trend in crime scene investigations being civilianized. Some departments have embraced this a long time ago, having 100% civilians in this role, have a blend of civilian and sworn, or have dug in their heels and refuse to have civilian Crime Scene Investigators.  On the show today, I have two Crime Scene Investigators from the Prince George’s County Police Department. William “Bill” Greene, who was hired as one of the first civilian C.S.I.s 42 years ago, and Frank Carson, who served as a sworn law enforcement officer with distinction for 35 years, and after retirement, went back to his department as a civilian C.S.I. Bill and Frank both have incredible pedigrees that would take up most of the hour we have for the show. Frank has worked as a detective, a fatal crash investigator, a C.S.I., and other valuable roles with his department. Bill has a very long list of impressive credentials and 42 years of investigating just about every type of crime imaginable. Please enjoy this conversation with two pros as we map out the future of law enforcement.In today’s episode, we discuss:·      Frank rejoins the ranks of the police department as a civilian C.S.I. after a long and distinguished career as a sworn officer. Bill being one of the first civilian C.S.I.’s for the department.·      35mm cameras were used in police work before digital cameras.·      The role of C.S.I. at a major crime scene in different departments.·      Bill working on the case of the nurse who was suspected of killing at least ten of her patients before being arrested for murder.·      Bill working the Len Bias death case.·      The book, Never Suck a Dead Man's Hand by Dana Kollmann.·      The future of civilians working in law enforcement. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Head on over to my website to learn more about me and my books!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show

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