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Cops and Writers Podcast
by Patrick O'Donnell
Cops and Writers is a podcast hosted by retired police sergeant and author, Patrick O'Donnell. The podcast provides valuable insights and humor for crime writers who want to create accurate and believable police stories. O'Donnell conducts in-depth interviews with members of law enforcement and civilian experts, discussing police procedures and culture. He also interviews crime fiction writers and writers from different genres, discussing what works in the ever-changing landscape of book sales and publishing. The podcast offers candid stories told with cop humor and technical details about the world of law enforcement.
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Savannah Homicide Detective Kevin Grogan: No Greater Honor, No Bigger Failure (Part One)
Send us Fan MailToday’s show takes us to one of my favorite places in the world, Savannah, Georgia. Savanah is home to the Savanah College of Art and Design (SCAD), some of the best food ever, history, haunted houses and ghost tours, and riverboats. It also has a seedy underbelly; that’s what we’re going to talk about today with former Savanah Police Department homicide Detective Kevin Grogan. Kevin Grogan is an Army Combat Veteran and former Savanah Police Department Homicide Detective. He has worked a variety of assignments within the Savanah Police Department, including vice and multi-agency task forces. Kevin is also a screenwriter, producer, and author of the Savannah True Crime Trilogy, with his latest book, No Greater Honor, No Bigger Failure. Please enjoy part one of this discussion with someone who has felt the weight of the badge and the ultimate cost it can have on someone. Part Two will go live next Sunday. In today’s episode, we discuss:· His first job as a police officer and why he abruptly left the job.· Being in the Army and deployed to the Middle East.· His path to the Savanah Police Department.· Being a cop in one of the most unique cities in the country. · Seeing the dark side of Savanah as a homicide detective. · How often did tourists or SCAD students become crime victims? How were these cases treated compared to people who live there, especially the poorest? · The Stairs of Death.· How Kevin became a homicide detective.· Working on different task forces with the ATF.· The illegal drug trade and human trafficking that went through the ports of Savanah. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Check out Kevin's Amazon Author Page! Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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From NYPD Street Cop to Media CEO: The Sherrie Price Clark Story.
Send us Fan MailToday on the show, I have with me former New York City Police Officer, bestselling and award-winning Author, Ghost Writer, Editor, Author Coach, and CEO of Storehouse Media Group, Sherrie Price Clark. Sherrie started her career with the NYPD in the early 90s while the city was at war with itself. She spent nearly a decade on the street and hung up her Sam Browne Belt to form a nonprofit, helping domestic violence victims. She moved to Florida and worked with the Northeast Florida Human Trafficking Task Force. Sherrie never turned her back on the publishing business, following her passion for helping authors and being of service. She is now the CEO of Storehouse Media Group. This was a fun interview talking about the old-school NYPD and the business of being an author. Please enjoy this wide-ranging interview with Sherrie Price Clark. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Growing up in a small town and winding up being a cop in New York.· Her mother teaching her that she needed to make her own luck.· From working for Disney to the NYPD.· Why the NYPD?· What was New York like in 1991 when she joined the NYPD? · Sherrie helping victims of domestic violence through her nonprofit. · Foster programs being the breeding grounds for human trafficking.· The Northeast Florida Human Trafficking Task Force. What is it, and what do we need to do to help combat human trafficking? · Writing, how and when did she get involved in the publishing business?· What are some of the best practices we as writers can do to sell our books?· Storehouse Media Group. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Visit Sherrie at her website! Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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FBI Agent Barry Black: From Accountant to Sniper and Bomb Tech at Waco, Oklahoma City and 9/11 (Part 2)
Send us Fan MailWelcome back, everyone, for the conclusion of my interview with the FBI agent who transitioned from FBI Special Agent accountant to FBI SWAT sniper and bomb Tech. My guest on today’s show, Barry Black, has been involved in investigating multi-million dollar crimes, from being a SWAT sniper at the Waco standoff, a bomb tech at the Oklahoma bombing, and 9/11. Let's get to know Barry. Barry joined the FBI in 1988 and was assigned to the Oklahoma City Division, where he primarily investigated complex financial crimes. Mr. Black served as an FBI SWAT sniper for several years, including a 51-day deployment to the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, in 1993. The following year, Mr. Black was certified as a Bomb Technician at the FBI’s Hazardous Devices School. In 1995, he was a first responder to the bombing of Oklahoma City’s Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and remained a member of the OKBOMB Task Force. As the threat of terrorism grew, Mr. Black was assigned to the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, where he worked with international partners in the global war on terror and trained highly specialized military and counterterrorism units in hostile regions around the world. Domestically, Mr. Black responded to the 1996 Atlanta Olympic bombing, the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks, the 2005 bombing at the University of Oklahoma, the bombing of a U.S. Air Force recruiting station, and, in a complex undercover operation, helped thwart a 2017 truck bomb attack targeting a major financial center in Oklahoma City. After retiring from the FBI, Mr. Black became an adjunct faculty member at the University of Central Oklahoma’s Forensic Science Institute. He has served as a consultant, keynote speaker, and provided commentary for various national and international media outlets and documentaries. In 2026, his book, Hazardous Devices: Memoir of an FBI Bomb Technician, Accountant, and Sniper, was published by McFarland & Company. Please enjoy the conclusion of my chat with an FBI agent who has had a law enforcement career that is the stuff of movies and books. In today’s episode, we discuss:· FBI personnel being kicked out of a hotel in Waco to make room for a basketball team. · ATF handing over the scene to the FBI.· Dealing with the child victims on the scene.· The Texas Rangers' role in the aftermath at Waco.· Who processed the crime scene?· Barry responding as a bomb tech. A few years later, on April 19, 1995, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nicholes used an improvised explosive device in a U-Haul that detonated in front of the Alfred Murrah Federal Building, killing 168 and injuring 800 people. · Barry’s wife leaving the target building two minutes before the detonation of the bomb.· 9/11. What was his role as an FBI master bomb tech, and what effect did that have on you?· His life after the bureau, as a teacher and author.· David Koresh was a cult leader. How do you reason with this guy?· His book, Hazardous Devices: Memoir of an FBI Bomb Technician, Accountant and Sniper.· His thoughts on the current FBI.All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Please visit Barry's website to learn more about him and his career.Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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FBI Special Agent Barry Black: From Accountant to Sniper and Bomb Tech at Waco, Oklahoma City and 9/11 (Part 1)
Send us Fan Mail From accountant to FBI Special Agent, FBI SWAT sniper, and bomb Tech. My guest on today’s show, Barry Black, has been involved in investigating multi-million dollar crimes, from being a SWAT sniper at the Waco standoff, a bomb tech at the Oklahoma bombing, and 9/11. My guest on the show today is FBI Special Agent, ret. Barry Black. Part two airs next Sunday.Let's get to know Barry. Barry joined the FBI in 1988 and was assigned to the Oklahoma City Division, where he primarily investigated complex financial crimes. Mr. Black served as an FBI SWAT sniper for several years, including a 51-day deployment to the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, in 1993. The following year, Mr. Black was certified as a Bomb Technician at the FBI’s Hazardous Devices School. In 1995, he was a first responder to the bombing of Oklahoma City’s Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and remained a member of the OKBOMB Task Force. As the threat of terrorism grew, Mr. Black was assigned to the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, where he worked with international partners in the global war on terror and trained highly specialized military and counterterrorism units in hostile regions around the world. Domestically, Mr. Black responded to the 1996 Atlanta Olympic bombing, the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks, the 2005 bombing at the University of Oklahoma, the bombing of a U.S. Air Force recruiting station, and in a complex undercover operation, helped thwart a 2017 truck bomb attack targeting a major financial center in Oklahoma City. After retiring from the FBI, Mr. Black became an adjunct faculty member at the University of Central Oklahoma’s Forensic Science Institute. He has served as a consultant, keynote speaker, and provided commentary for various national and international media outlets and documentaries. In 2026, his book, Hazardous Devices: Memoir of an FBI Bomb Technician, Accountant, and Sniper, was published by McFarland & Company. Please enjoy this fascinating discussion with an FBI agent who has had a law enforcement career that they make movies and books about. In today’s episode, we discuss:· What influenced Barry into becoming an FBI agent? The influence of his little league coach being an FBI agent. · The FBI only wanting accounts and lawyers as members.· Being fast-tracked as an FBI agent because he had an accounting degree.· Accountant to sniper/bomb tech.· Being the youngest member of his academy class.· What drew him into SWAT and being a sniper?· Waco. February 28–April 19, 1993. At what stage of the standoff did he get called in?· David Koresh was a cult leader. How do you reason with this guy?· Huge tactical disadvantage with the geography. Using Bradley armored vehicles from Fort Hood as moving cover and concealment.· What comes to his mind when he hears this from Wikipedia? “After 51 days, on April 19, 1993, the FBI launched a CS gas (tear gas) attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out of the compound's buildings. Shortly thereafter, the Mount Carmel Center became engulfed in flames. The fire and the reaction to the final attack within the group resulted in the deaths of 76 Branch Davidians, including 20–28 children and Koresh.”· How much of the decision-making at Waco was boots on the ground compared to Washington DC calling the shots?· Was there a clear chain of command and IC in Waco? All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Please visit Barry's website to learn more about him and his career.Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Borders, Badges, and Congress with Sheriff Mark Lamb (Part 2)
Send us Fan MailLast week, we heard how a single ride-along changed the trajectory of one man's life forever. This week, Sheriff Mark Lamb and I talk about the big issues: border security, the Second Amendment, term limits, what's broken in law enforcement today, and why a man who spent eight years as one of America's most recognized sheriffs is now setting his sights on Congress. This is Part Two of my conversation with The American Sheriff.More about Sheriff Lamb. Mark Lamb is known as “The American Sheriff.” He served as the 24th Sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona, overseeing a county the size of Connecticut. Before entering law enforcement, he was a business owner for over a decade and didn't join law enforcement until his thirties, yet he quickly rose through the ranks. Valedictorian of his training class, Rookie of the Year, Officer of the Year, and Detective of the Year.He served as sheriff from January 2017 through December 2024, and ran for U.S. Senate in 2024, losing the Republican primary to Kari Lake. He's now running for Congress in Arizona's 5th Congressional District. Please enjoy this thought-provoking conversation with Sheriff Mark Lamb. In today’s episode, we discuss:· What makes an effective leader, especially in law enforcement?· What was his favorite victory or defeat in life and in law enforcement?· The border crisis. What has been done to help, and why is it so imperative to have a safe and secure border?· What about the illegal aliens who have been here for years and are not criminals? A path towards citizenship.· The ICE catastrophe in Minneapolis and the complete breakdown in leadership from the president, the head of ICE, the mayor of Minneapolis, and the chief of the Minneapolis PD. · 2nd Amendment rights. What are we doing right and wrong in this country now regarding this?· Moving towards a sheriff model of law enforcement and moving away from having a chief of police who has to bow to political pressure to keep their jobs.· What is right and wrong with LE today? · It feels like we are split as a nation. I believe a lot of this is fueled by untruthful media. What can we do to stop this?· Running for Congress, why???? It’s just not you; it is your family as well.· His views on term limits.· How can a congressman accumulate so much wealth while in office, making $175,000.00 a year?? All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Visit Sheriff Lamb's website.Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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One Ride Along Changed Everything-America's Sheriff Mark Lamb (Part 1)
Send us Fan MailOne ride along and a passion for public service. That's all it took to change everything. My guest on the show today, Sheriff Mark Lamb, walked away from a successful business career, stepped into a police academy in his thirties, and never looked back. He went on to become one of the most recognized law enforcement figures in America. On this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast, we take a look at how it all started for Sheriff Mark Lamb. Welcome to part one of this incredible story. Part two airs next Sunday.More about Sheriff Lamb. Mark Lamb is known as "America's Sheriff.” He served as the 24th Sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona, overseeing a county the size of Connecticut with over 600 employees. Before entering law enforcement, he was a business owner for over a decade and didn't join law enforcement until his thirties, yet he quickly rose through the ranks. Valedictorian of his training class, Rookie of the Year, Officer of the Year, and Detective of the Year.He served as sheriff from January 2017 through December 2024, and ran for U.S. Senate in 2024, losing the Republican primary to Kari Lake. He's now running for Congress in Arizona's 5th Congressional District. No matter what your political persuasion is, I think his message needs to be heard, and I’m grateful he took the time out of his busy schedule for this interview. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Growing up in different countries and how that helped him later in life as a cop and person.· Being a teenager and trapped in Panama during Operation Just Cause.· His calling to be of service.· How one ride-along changed his life forever. · The benefits or drawbacks of being “older” in the police academy.· His first job in law enforcement was as a tribal police officer on an Indian reservation.· Being a white man working on an Indian reservation as a police officer.· The lessons he learned from the natives while he was policing on the reservation.· An epidemic of missing and murdered women on Indian reservations.· Why did he run for sheriff? · His opposition attacking him and his family during this and previous elections through mudslinging, and him taking the high road. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Visit Sheriff Lamb's website.Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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The California Kid: Owen Hanson's Journey from Cartel Kingpin to Frozen Protein Bars. Prison, Power, & Purpose!
Send us Fan MailToday’s show is going to be a little different. Usually, I interview professionals who are law enforcement, military, or victims of crimes. Today, I will interview a man who was a criminal. This is a story of second chances and what can be accomplished after making a mistake.Today on the show, I have Owen Hanson, whose life story was featured in the Mark Wahlberg production documentary, Cocaine Quarterback, available on Amazon Prime. Owen is a California kid whose mother left him and his father at a young age. He grew up playing volleyball and earned a scholarship to play at the University of Southern California. In his sophomore year, he was essentially cut from the team. His coach told him to get bigger and improve his vertical leap. So, Owen worked out six days a week, twice a week, and made it as a walk-on to the football team. He also took performance-enhancing drugs in his quest to become stronger and faster. This kid, who came from a modest middle-class broken home, was now partying with rock stars and other celebrities. He was also the team's and campus’s drug dealer. After graduation, he wound up working as a bookie, money launderer, and associate with a Mexican drug cartel. At one point, he was making over a million dollars a day until it all came crashing down on him. He was tried and sentenced to 21 years in federal prison. Through a cooperation agreement with the Australian government, he was released after nine years. While he was in prison, he started a frozen protein product that he is now selling as a free man. Owen made a mistake, paid the price, and is now reinventing himself. He is proof that sometimes all someone needs is a second chance. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Having his mom abandon him as a young boy.· Your route to USC via volleyball and feeling out of place with the rich kids in his school.· Dealing illegal drugs in college.· The availability of powder cocaine at USC in the early 2000s.· Being benched his sophomore year in college volleyball.· Becoming a walk-on for the football team. · Being the team's drug dealer, getting the drugs at the veterinarian's office in Tijuana.· Living the rock and roll lifestyle as a college football player.· How he got involved with a Mexican drug cartel.· Making prison frozen protein.· Does he ever look over your shoulder, thinking a cartel hitman might come after him?Head on over to Owen's website to learn more about his story!Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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DEA Agent J. Todd Scott: From Busting International Drug Dealers to Writing and Producing Dutton Ranch (Part Two)
Send us Fan MailThanks for coming back for the conclusion of my interview with Author, Screenwriter, Producer, and Retired DEA Agent J Todd Scott. Today’s episode, we talk DEA stuff and work our way into Hollywood and books, more specifically, him being a producer and writer for the Yellowstone spinoff, Dutton Ranch. Todd spent 30 years as a special agent for the DEA, being assigned to multiple locations across the United States and the world. During his time as a special agent, he took part in investigations leading to tons of seized illegal drugs and millions of dollars in illegal drug proceeds. He was part of the first group of agents to be assigned to Haiti for a long-term mission, where he escaped certain death multiple times by the skin of his teeth. Todd has always had a passion for stories and writing, and pursued this when he retired from federal service. He’s authored six critically acclaimed crime and thriller novels. He’s also a film/TV producer and screenwriter. His work includes the Lawmen: Bass Reeves, and he is a producer and writer for the spinoff to the massively popular Yellowstone series, Dutton Ranch.It was a pleasure to get the chance to chat with Todd. He has lived and is living a life that books and movies are made of; now he’s telling the stories. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Has legalizing marijuana in some states made things better, worse, or has it made any difference?· What is the best way to prepare yourself to become a DEA Special Agent, or any other LE officer?· Writing and being a producer on the new Yellowstone spinoff, Dutton Ranch and Lawmen: Bass Reeves.· His ‘big break’ in his writing career.· Yellowstone, why was it such a breakout success?.· What is his role with The Dutton Ranch? · How daunting was it to work on Dutton Ranch with all the success of Yellowstone? How he dealt with that.· Having a full-time snake wrangler on set.· His advice for anyone wanting to break into the book-writing world or television, or movies. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Head on over to Todd's website to learn more about him and his work.Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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DEA Agent J. Todd Scott: From Busting International Drug Dealers to Writing and Producing Dutton Ranch (Part One)
Send us Fan MailThe name of this podcast is Cops and Writers. My guest on the show today, J Todd Scott, definitely fits that bill. The conclusion of this interview will air next Sunday!Todd spent 30 years as a special agent for the DEA, being assigned to multiple locations across the United States and the world. During his time as a special agent, he took part in investigations leading to tons of seized illegal drugs and millions of dollars in illegal drug proceeds. He was a part of the first group of agents to be assigned to Haiti for a long-term mission, where he escaped certain death multiple times by the skin of his teeth. Todd has always had a passion for stories and writing, and pursued this when he retired from federal service. He’s authored six critically acclaimed crime and thriller novels. He’s also a film/TV producer and screenwriter. His work includes the Lawmen: Bass Reeves series, and he is a producer and writer for the spinoff to the massively popular Yellowstone series, Dutton Ranch.I loved talking with Todd. He has lived and is living a life that books and movies are made of; now he’s telling the stories. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Growing up in rural Kentucky. · Having no relatives or friends in law enforcement, and joining the DEA.· Why did he choose the DEA?· Thinking his career with the DEA would be like the Miami Vice television series.· His first day on the job as a special agent assigned to the Los Angeles field office.· The multiple work locations where he worked as a DEA agent. · Training local law enforcement and running active investigations in Haiti.· Dealing with corruption within the Hattian Police Department.· Being caught in a street mob in Haiti and barely making it out alive.· What is the biggest threat to the United States? What is the role of illegal drugs? All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Head on over to Todd's website to learn more about him and his work.Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Officer Mike Martinez: Surviving 3 Life and Death Incidents in His First 18 Months as a Cop (Part Two)
Send us Fan Mail“Have you ever shot someone?” Most cops will be asked this throughout their careers, including myself. Most cops go to retirement without having to take a life. Then others have been involved in multiple officer-involved shootings (OIS). Most of the time, there is no rhyme or reason to this. Although your chances of being involved in an OIS are much greater if you are actually doing police work and not hiding behind a desk for 25 years. Welcome back, everyone, to the conclusion of one of the most dramatic and impactful stories I have ever encountered since I started this podcast with Police Officer Michael Martinez of the San Diego Police Department. A little about Mike. Michael Martinez has been a police officer with the San Diego Police Department for about 10 years. After phase training, he was assigned to Southern Division, where he worked a variety of assignments, including Patrol, Acting Detective, and Field Training Officer. Officer Martinez has been involved in four Officer-Involved Shootings, the first three within his first 18 months after field training. He took advantage of a career-and life-changing opportunity that was offered to him by the San Diego Police Department’s Wellness Unit. He was diagnosed with PTSD and now shares his story with fellow law enforcement officers. He is currently a member of the Department’s OIS Peer Support Team and is currently assigned to the Department’s Wellness Unit. Officer Martinez has received numerous awards and commendations, including a Medal for Valor. He truly believes his assignment is his calling to help others who are struggling in silence. His goal is to break the stigma of seeking and receiving help within the first responder profession and to be a resource to officers and their families. I admire Mike’s honesty and willingness to help other cops who have gone through the trauma of being in an OIS. Mike has been through the wringer and is now helping his fellow cops. Please enjoy this raw and powerful interview with Police Officer Mike Martinez. In today’s episode, we discuss:· The second officer involved shooting. Has he gone back to where it happened?· Did he react differently to this one compared to the first?· The third officer involved in a shooting. Did any bosses or friends suggest that he take a break from the street? How was his drinking and family life?· A breakdown of the third OIS.· The wellness unit confronting him while he was drunk.· His path towards a first responder-only treatment facility.· His experience there: how long and what did that treatment look like?.· Life after treatment.· Being voluntold to be on the wellness unit.· An overview of his fourth officer-involved shooting. · What was different about this one in how he dealt with it?· Was there ever a time when he thought perhaps he was in the wrong line of work and should get out while he was still in one piece?· His advice to someone who is going through a tough patch in their police career.· How can someone prepare for a career in LE? Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Officer Mike Martinez: Surviving 3 Life and Death Incidents in His First 18 Months as a Cop (Part One)
Send us Fan Mail“Have you ever shot someone?” Most cops will be asked this throughout their careers, including myself. Most cops go to retirement without having to take a life. Then others have been involved in multiple officer-involved shootings (OIS). Most of the time, there is no rhyme or reason to this. Although your chances of being involved in an OIS are much greater if you are actually doing police work and not hiding behind a desk for 25 years. Welcome everyone to part one of one of the most dramatic and impactful stories I have ever encountered since I started this podcast with Police Officer Michael Martinez of the San Diego Police Department. The conclusion of this interview will air next Sunday!A little about Mike. Michael Martinez has been a police officer with the San Diego Police Department for about 10 years. After phase training, he was assigned to the Southern Division, where he had the opportunity to work a variety of assignments, including Patrol, Acting Detective, and Field Training Officer. Officer Martinez has been involved in four Officer-Involved Shootings, the first three within his first 18 months after field training. He took advantage of a career-and life-changing opportunity that was offered to him by the San Diego Police Department’s Wellness Unit. He was diagnosed with PTSD and now shares his story with fellow law enforcement officers. He is currently a member of the Department’s OIS Peer Support Team and is currently assigned to the Department’s Wellness Unit. Officer Martinez has received numerous awards and commendations, including a Medal for Valor. He truly believes his assignment is his calling to help others who are struggling in silence. His goal is to break the stigma of seeking and receiving help within the first responder profession and to be a resource to officers and their families. Mike is as genuine as they get. I admire his honesty and willingness to help other cops who have gone through the trauma of being in an OIS. Please enjoy this frank and powerful interview with Police Officer Mike Martinez. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Thank you, Mike, for your openness and honesty with this subject matter. · Growing up in San Diego and being a troubled youth.· Getting sucked into the gangster lifestyle as a kid. · Leaving San Diego and going to college in Hawaii.· Working as a security officer in Hawaii, especially dealing with violent / emotionally disturbed people. How that prepare him to become a cop.· Non-cops being first responders to calls dealing with violent, emotionally ill people.· Working in corrections.· Moving back to San Diego and working as animal control as a road to becoming a San Diego Police officer. Interesting or funny assignments regarding that and evacuating animals during wildfires.· Getting on the SDPD at age 30. Pros and cons.· His first OIS. What were the physiological and psychological effects? · Deteriorating home life after the shooting.· Abusing alcohol to ease the physiological and psychological effects of being in the shooting.· Backlash from the media and possibly friends and family.All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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What the Dead Know With New York City Death Investigator Barbara Butcher.
Send us Fan MailOne pleasure of hosting this podcast is having some of your favorite people come back on the show. Today’s episode is one of those occurrences.Today on the show, I welcome back retired New York City Death Investigator, author, and television star, Barbara Butcher. I had Barbara on the podcast back in 2023 on episodes 127 and 128. Barbara Butcher spent 23 years at the New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner as a death investigator, director of the Forensic Sciences Training Program, and chief of staff. There, she investigated over 5500 deaths, 680 of them homicides. She worked mass disasters, including 9/11, the 2004 tsunami in Thailand, the London Underground bombing, and the crash of Flight 587.During this interview, Barbara gives us a peek into the life of a big city death investigator, and we talk about her book, What the Dead Know: Learning About Life as a New York City Death Investigator and her new TV special The Death Investigator with Barbara Butcher, and the television pilot that is being filmed based on her life at the New York City Medical Examiner’s Office. I hope you all enjoy this interview as much as I did. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Growing up in New York, being the oldest of nine kids, and her dad being on the New York Police Department, rising to the rank of Deputy Inspector.· How her father’s position in the NYPD affected her career with the M.E.’s office?· The snowball fight against the cops that got out of hand.· The cops are for us.· How she got the job with the New York Medical Examiner’s Office as a death investigator, and the training involved in the job. · The job of the death investigator.· Time of death. How that is determined, and how different it is on TV and in movies· Besides the time of death, what are some of the biggest misconceptions or inaccuracies on TV or movies regarding death investigations?· Her book, What the Dead Know: Learning About Life as a New York City Death Investigator.· Her new show, The Death Investigator with Barbara Butcher.· The relationship she had with the cops and how they worked together to solve the crime. You can see the bond she had with the cops in her new series, The Death Investigator, with Barbara Butcher. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Check out Barbara's website to learn more about her and her amazing career!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Undercover Trooper & ATF Special Agent Jennifer Eskew. Becoming Fire! (Part Two)
Send us Fan MailWelcome back, everyone, for the conclusion of my interview with retired ATF Special Agent Jennifer Eskew. A little about Jennifer. Jennifer (CLARKE) Eskew is a former Virginia State Trooper, a retired ATF Senior Special Agent, an Author, and a subject matter expert in undercover operations, fire and explosion origin and cause determinations, and criminal investigations involving the violent crimes of arson and bombings, armed career criminals, and financial fraud.Jennifer graduated from the Virginia State Police Academy in 1986, beginning her career as a uniform trooper, then as an undercover trooper. This period of her law enforcement career is the focus of her newly released debut true crime memoir: BECOMING FIRE: Chasing the Passion to Protect, Serve, and Love. Jennifer became a Special Agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) in 1990. She worked undercover and investigated criminal cases, eventually joining the ATF National Response Team in 1994, becoming a Certified Explosives Specialist and a Certified Fire Investigator. She was involved in many large-scale arson/bombing investigations, including Centennial Park, Sandy Springs double bombings, The Otherside Lounge bombing, and the 9/11 Pentagon terror attack. She’s currently writing her second true-crime memoir, highlighting her undercover casework with ATF.Please enjoy this fascinating conversation as we focus on her career with the ATF and the dangerous, undercover, and high-profile cases she investigated. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Why Jennifer chose a career with the ATF?· The differences in switching over from state law enforcement to a federal agency. · Her first undercover role with the ATF.· Her most memorable assignment was with the ATF. · Responding to the Pentagon on 9/11 and doing the arduous task of collecting evidence from the plane crash.· Jennifer’s advice she would give to someone who wants to be a trooper or ATF agent.· The physical and mental aftermath of agents working at the crash site at the Pentagon.· Her new book, Becoming Fire: Chasing the Passion to Protect, Serve, and Love: A True Crime Memoir.· Having the legendary Lt. Joe Kenda blurb her book. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Please visit Jennifer's website to learn more about her and her book.Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Undercover Trooper & ATF Special Agent Jennifer Eskew. Becoming Fire! (Part One)
Send us Fan MailWelcome everyone, to part one of my interview with retired ATF Special Agent Jennifer Eskew. The conclusion of this interview will air next Sunday!A little about Jennifer: Jennifer (CLARKE) Eskew is a former Virginia State Trooper, a retired ATF Senior Special Agent, an Author, and subject matter expert in undercover operations, fire and explosion origin and cause determinations, and criminal investigations involving the violent crimes of arson and bombings, armed career criminals, and financial fraud.Jennifer graduated from the Virginia State Police Academy in 1986, beginning her career as a uniform trooper, then as an undercover trooper. This period of her law enforcement career is the focus of her newly released debut true-crime memoir, BECOMING FIRE: Chasing the Passion to Protect, Serve, and Love. Jennifer became a Special Agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) in 1990. She worked undercover and investigated criminal cases, eventually joining the ATF National Response Team in 1994, becoming a Certified Explosives Specialist and a Certified Fire Investigator. She was involved in numerous large-scale arson/bombing investigations, including Centennial Park, Sandy Springs double bombings, The Otherside Lounge bombing, and the 9/11 Pentagon terror attack. She’s currently writing her second true-crime memoir, highlighting her undercover casework with the ATF.Please enjoy this fascinating conversation as we track Jennifer’s early law enforcement career as she transitioned from trooper to ATF agent. Next week, we focus on her career with the ATF and the dangerous, undercover, and high-profile cases she investigated. In today’s episode, we discuss:· The violent incident that happened to her mother and sister that shook her small town and lit the fuse to her wanting to be in law enforcement. · From wanting to save Free Willy to becoming a cop. How did that happen?· How a trip to Japan at a young age molded her future. · Going into the Virginia State Police academy and the medical scare that almost prevented her from becoming a trooper.· Having a boss tell her class that women and wine will torpedo your career.· An unusual first day of field training.· The pitfalls of unprofessional FTO / Recruit relationships.· Jennifer’s first day of going out solo as a trooper.· Becoming an undercover trooper. How she got picked and what cases she worked on.· Going undercover to catch a bomber on a college campus.· Being bait for a serial killer.All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Please visit Jennifer's website to learn more about her and her book.Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!Head on over to my website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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30 Years. 50 Banks. How FBI Agent Ray Carr Caught the Most Prolific Bank Robber in History. (Part 2)
Send us Fan MailWelcome back, everyone, for the conclusion of my interview with Retired FBI Special Agent, Author, and Professor Raymond Carr. When we think of bank robberies, it conjures up visions of iconic movies like Dog Day Afternoon, Heat, and, of course, Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze battling it out in Point Break. My guest on the show today, retired FBI Special Agent Raymond Carr, hunted down hundreds of real bank robbers. Today’s episode, we will break down that one defining case of a career for Ray, the most prolific bank robber of all time, who was known as the Friday Night Bank Robber, Carl Gugasian. Carl evaded capture for thirty years before Ray was on the case. Carl is believed to have been involved in over 50 robberies before Ray ultimately arrested him. We will also dive into Ray’s life after leaving the bureau, being a college professor, and writing the book, 30 Years On The Run: The Hunt For The Most Prolific Bank Robber In History.Please enjoy this fascinating conversation with the FBI agent who caught the bank robber who was on the run for over 30 years and brought him to justice. In today’s episode, we discuss:· The Friday Night Bank Robber, Carl Gugasian. When and how he first become aware of him and started working on the case?· A breakdown of the case. · Carl’s background.· Over 30 years of robbing banks!· Army Ranger and 3rd degree black belt in karate.· Troubled youth.· His bunkers.· His sometimes violent robberies· How he was arrested.· How Ray got a confession. · Statute of limitations on bank robberies and how this played out in this case.· Ray’s relationship with Carl. · When is Carl eligible to get out of prison?· Life after retirement. What Ray misses the most about being in the FBI, or least?· Ray’s book, 30 Years On The Run: The Hunt For The Most Prolific Bank Robber In History. Why write it?All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Check out Ray's website! Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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FBI Agent Ray Carr Caught the Most Prolific Bank Robber in History… But First, How It All Started. (Part One)
Send us Fan MailWelcome, everyone, to part one of my interview with Retired FBI Special Agent, Author, and Professor Raymond Carr. The conclusion of this interview will air next Sunday!When we think of bank robberies, it conjures up visions of iconic movies like Dog Day Afternoon, Heat, and, of course, Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze battling it out in Point Break. My guest on the show today, retired FBI Special Agent Raymond Carr, hunted down hundreds of real bank robbers, including the most prolific bank robber of all time, who was known as the Friday Night Bank Robber, Carl Gugasian. Carl evaded capture for thirty years before Ray was on the case. Carl is believed to have been involved in over 50 robberies before Ray ultimately arrested him. A little about Ray. Dr Raymond J Carr is a retired 26-year veteran of the FBI, and during his career was responsible for investigations into a wide array of criminal behavior, including, but not limited to, drugs, Terrorism, violent, and white-collar crimes. Dr Carr is currently an associate professor at Wilmington University and the Director of the Wilmington University Criminal Justice Institute. Please enjoy this fascinating conversation with the FBI agent who caught the bank robber who was on the run for over 30 years and brought him to justice. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Growing up an Army brat. · Having a dad who was a Korean and Vietnam War hero.· Being of service.· What influenced him to go into the FBI?· Relatives who were in law enforcement.· Ray’s FBI academy experience.· When he first got interested in criminal behavior or profiling.· What do TV and movies get wrong about profiling?· The science of criminal behavior/profiling.· What drives someone to become an active shooter in a school?· The most common bank robberies.· Funny bank robbery stories.All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Check out Ray's website! Head on over to my website to learn more about me and my books!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Bonus Episode! A Novel Crime With Bestselling Author Deborah Levison!
Send us Fan MailWelcome everyone to a bonus episode of the Cops and Writers podcast, author spotlight with bestselling author and publicist, Deborah Levison. Her first book, THE CRATE, won seven literary awards, and Lee Child, #1 New York Times bestselling author of the JACK REACHER series, said, “THE CRATE is an impressive piece of work." Since then, she wrote A Nest of Snakes and recently released A Novel Crime, which has been described as “Uproariously funny, exquisitely unputdownable, and ingeniously plotted... the perfect, delicious escape." Please enjoy this wide-ranging conversation with one of my favorite authors. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Her award-winning and bestselling book, The Crate.· Growing up as a child of immigrants who were Holocaust survivors.· The growing antisemitic rhetoric in this country.· Lee Child giving her a glowing review for The Crate.· Her book launch for her newest book, A Novel Crime! Let’s just say sometimes things don’t always go as planned.All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Please visit Deborah Levison's website to learn more about her and her books.Head on over to my website to learn more about me and my books!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Sgt. Betsy "Tactical Grandma" Brantner Smith; Undercover Cop, Sergeant, & Television Reality Star. (Part Two)
Send us Fan MailWelcome everyone to the conclusion of my interview with Naperville Police Department Retired Police Sergeant and now Spokesperson for the National Police Association, Betsy Brantner Smith. Last week, we learned about Betsy’s journey from growing up in a small town on a farm to making it to a big-city police department and all the unthinkable harassment and bullying she endured from within her own agency. This week, we learn about her work as an undercover cop involved in high-stakes takedowns in and around the Chicagoland area. When she walked away from that work, she went back to her agency and was promoted to sergeant, and the rest of her incredible 29 years in law enforcement. We even talk about a certain serial killer cop with whom she was forced to be partners and briefly interacted socially. Please enjoy this sometimes shocking, fascinating, and genuine interview. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Being an undercover cop with almost no backup or training. · High-stakes narcotics investigations and almost getting her cover blown. · Betsy’s ability to think on her feet and improvise during super-dangerous undercover situations.· Leaving a Chicagoland area drug Taskforce. · Being a sergeant in charge of the K9 unit.· Turning down a promotion to lieutenant.· From 1999 to 2003, Betsy hosted various training programs and was a content expert for the Law Enforcement Television Network (LETN), is currently an on-air commentator and advisor for the Police One Academy. · Being the focus of a police television reality show. Female Forces. · Working with and socializing with wife-killer cop Drew Peterson.· What she sees cops doing right and wrong today.· What is the National Police Association, and your role with them? All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Head on over to the National Police Association website.Head on over to my website to learn more about me and my books!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith, Resilience Under Fire: The Early Years of a Female Cop Who Refused to Quit. (Part One)
Send us Fan MailCan you imagine being the only female in your police academy class? How about the instructor telling you that you shouldn’t be in the classroom and instead should be giving him a blowjob? Or being a rookie cop and being formally disciplined for egregious violations like failure to take a hint or having your feet too far apart for a female? Resilience and grit. Those are the words that come to mind when I interviewed today’s guest, retired Police Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith of the Naperville Police Department. These are just some things she had to endure at the beginning of her over 29-year police career. The conclusion of this interview will air next Sunday!A little about Betsy: Betsy Brantner Smith started her career in law enforcement as a dispatcher when she was 17. Four years later, she began a 29-year career in a suburban Chicago department. During her time as a cop and sergeant, she worked undercover in multi-jurisdictional agencies in Chicago and other areas around the city. She was also in charge of the K9 unit, FTO, and various other jobs, including investigations.She wrote the book, The Ten Code: 10 Law Enforcement Principles for Victory in Life: Police Techniques for Personal Achievement.Betsy has also been a dedicated trainer in law enforcement for years.Today, Betsy is the spokesperson for the National Police Association, a non-profit organization focused on supporting law enforcement through education, advocacy, and legal action.Please enjoy this sometimes shocking, fascinating, and genuine interview with someone who endured and overcame, making the lives of future female cops much better. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Will the Bears win the Super Bowl? · Growing up on a farm in Illinois. · Learning her amazing work ethic as a young teen from her parents.· The influence of her father being an auxiliary sheriff's deputy. · She and her dad working together on the local sheriff’s mounted posse.· Why she chose the Naperville PD and not the Chicago PD.· Her senior year in high school becoming a full-time police dispatcher. · Facing shocking discrimination in the police academy and how she dealt with it. · Almost getting fired for trumped-up charges like standing with her feet too far apart for a woman, and failure to take a hint. · Her first day on the job and her first time going out solo on patrol.Head on over to the National Police Association website.Head on over to my website to learn more about me and my books!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Civilians Replacing Cops? C.S.I.s Frank Carson & Bill Greene & The Future of Law Enforcement
Send us Fan MailWith historical shortages in law enforcement, today's departments have to find ways of augmenting positions that were traditionally filled by sworn law enforcement officers. One option is to have civilians working these jobs. On today’s show, we will be highlighting the trend in crime scene investigations being civilianized. Some departments have embraced this a long time ago, having 100% civilians in this role, have a blend of civilian and sworn, or have dug in their heels and refuse to have civilian Crime Scene Investigators. On the show today, I have two Crime Scene Investigators from the Prince George’s County Police Department. William “Bill” Greene, who was hired as one of the first civilian C.S.I.s 42 years ago, and Frank Carson, who served as a sworn law enforcement officer with distinction for 35 years, and after retirement, went back to his department as a civilian C.S.I. Bill and Frank both have incredible pedigrees that would take up most of the hour we have for the show. Frank has worked as a detective, a fatal crash investigator, a C.S.I., and other valuable roles with his department. Bill has a very long list of impressive credentials and 42 years of investigating just about every type of crime imaginable. Please enjoy this conversation with two pros as we map out the future of law enforcement.In today’s episode, we discuss:· Frank rejoins the ranks of the police department as a civilian C.S.I. after a long and distinguished career as a sworn officer. Bill being one of the first civilian C.S.I.’s for the department.· 35mm cameras were used in police work before digital cameras.· The role of C.S.I. at a major crime scene in different departments.· Bill working on the case of the nurse who was suspected of killing at least ten of her patients before being arrested for murder.· Bill working the Len Bias death case.· The book, Never Suck a Dead Man's Hand by Dana Kollmann.· The future of civilians working in law enforcement. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Head on over to my website to learn more about me and my books!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years. The Howells vs. Pam From The Office.
Send us Fan MailIn this Last episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast bonus series, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell reads Chapter 26, "The Howells vs. Pam From The Office," from his book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City CopBIG NEWS: The book launched yesterday and is LIVE NOW on Amazon (Kindle + Paperback).After weeks of heavy stories - triple homicides, kidnappings, dying declarations - tonight's different.It's a snowy Milwaukee night. A head-on collision in the middle of an intersection. A rookie cop who barely knows what he's doing. And three very different people.The Howells - a wealthy couple in a Jaguar XJ12 who looked like they stepped off Gilligan's Island. Thurston, in his expensive suit, Lovey in her full-length fur coat, demanding arrests.Pam - a young woman in a little black dress with piercing green eyes and blood-red lipstick. Fresh from an office Christmas party, now with a four-inch gash on her forehead.And a busybody nurse with a scowl for a facial covering who wanted to be a cop more than Patrick did, armed with a syringe and ready to draw blood.Sometimes being a rookie means pretending you know what you're doing. Even when you're making the sign of the cross with a red pen and calling it a sobriety test.All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.🎧 This episode includes:Two-car head-on collision at Lafayette and Lake DriveNissan Sentra vs. Jaguar XJ12 - both totaledThe couple who looked like Thurston and Lovey Howell from Gilligan's IslandThe young woman who looked like Pam from The OfficeLovey: "I demand that you arrest that young girl! Obviously, she's been drinking!"Mrs. Howell: "Look at her! Her little party dress, her hair, and makeup. She was definitely partying tonight!""If I'm going to investigate it as alcohol-related, I'll have to have your husband perform field sobriety tests.""My wife has had a bit too much to drink and isn't thinking clearly."The nurse: "I sure hope you're taking her in for drunk driving! I'll draw the blood for you!""Aren't you a little helper?" Patrick thoughtThe last time Patrick did an HGN test was at the police academy a year ago - he forgot how to do it properlyPatrick winked at Pam: "Just go along with it."The nurse stomped her feet: "I can't believe this! I'm calling your sergeant!"📘 About the Book: Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City Cop is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O'Donnell's early career as a big city cop during Milwaukee's crack wars in the 1990s.Book Launch: LAUNCHED YESTERDAY - LIVE NOW! Book Status: Available on Amazon NOW (Kindle + Paperback). Already climbing the charts.🔗 Get your copy NOW: Search "Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell" on Amazon or check the link below.📧 Contact Patrick: Email: [email protected] Website: copsandwriters.com Facebook Group: Cops and Writers👍 If this story stuck with you: Subscribe, leave a review, and grab your copy of the book on Amazon.If you read it, please leave an honest review - launch week reviews make a huge difference.🎙️ This is the FINAL bonus chapter. Next week, we're back to regular programming with guest interviews.Thank you for riding along these past weeks.Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Support the show
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Move Over Jack Reacher, Bestselling Author Nick Petrie's Peter Ash is Here!
Send us Fan MailToday’s show will be especially helpful for you writers out there, or if you are curious to see what makes a full-time thriller author tick. On the show today, we have award-winning and bestselling author Nick Petrie, who just released his 9th book in the Peter Ash series, The Dark Time.His first novel, The Drifter, won the ITW Thriller and Barry Awards and was nominated for Edgar, Anthony, and Hammett Awards. He won the 2016 Literary Award from the Wisconsin Library Association and was named one of Apple’s 10 Writers to Read in 2017. Apple Books named Light It Up the Best Thriller of 2018. Both Light It Up and The Wild One were shortlisted for the Barry Award.Lee Child, author of the Jack Reacher novels, said. “Lots of characters get compared to my own Jack Reacher, but Petrie's Peter Ash is the real deal.”Nick is the quindecennial blue-collar author. He has an impeccable work ethic forged with years of working as a carpenter and other trades, which has paved his way to becoming a full-time, bestselling author. Please enjoy my conversation with one of the nicest guys I know in the business, Nick Petrie. In today’s episode, we discuss:· What has changed in the publishing business in the last two years since he released his last book? Luck finds people who show up for work every day. · Artificial Intelligence and the publishing business.· Best marketing practices for authors.· How his former professions and life experiences have helped him in his writing career.· Pros and cons of writing in a series.· His advice for new or newer authors looking to break through. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Visit Nick's website to learn more about him and his books.Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years! Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast bonus series, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell reads Chapter 14, "Scooby-Doo Where Are You?" from his upcoming book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City CopYou've probably seen it in movies or TV shows: a cop arrives at a crime scene, a victim is barely clinging to life, and with their final breath, they reveal who killed them. Case closed. Roll credits.Reality is messier.This is a short chapter, but one of the most unforgettable stories in the book. It's about a dying man's last words—and how Patrick can never watch Scooby-Doo the same way again.Jimmy T was one of the genuinely nice cops on the late shift. Five-foot-nine, built like a prizefighter, always had a smile on his face. When he shook Patrick's hand and introduced himself, nobody had ever been that nice to the FNG before. He called Patrick "Paddy" from that night on.They were working plainclothes backup in an unmarked Crown Vic when they heard twenty gunshots ring out. They found a man lying in the middle of the street, steam rising from multiple bullet holes in his chest. The paramedic shook his head 'no'—this guy wasn't going to make it.Patrick needed a dying declaration: "You're going to die. Who killed you?"The man's last words: "Scooby-Doo, Scooby-Doo, shot me!"To this day, Patrick can't watch Scooby-Doo without thinking of that night.All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.🎧 This episode includes:Plainclothes park operation - people getting robbed after hoursTwenty gunshots rang out.Steam rising from the bullet holes - "extra eerie with the streetlights and flashing red and blue lights."The victim to the female cop: "Am I going to die?"The dying man's last words: "Scooby-Doo, Scooby-Doo, shot me!"Scooby-Doo was a local drug dealer's street nameWorking with homicide until 4:00 p.m. - looking for Scooby"To this day, I can't watch Scooby-Doo without thinking of that night"📘 About the Book: Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City Cop is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O'Donnell's early career as a big city cop during Milwaukee's crack wars in the 1990s.Book Launch: TUESDAY, March 17, 2026 (St. Patrick's Day!) Book Update: Pre-orders are LIVE on Amazon. The book is currently a #1 New Release in Biographies of Law Enforcement. This is the last bonus chapter episode before launch!🔗 Pre-order now for $3.99 (price goes up after launch): Search "Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell" on Amazon or check the link below.📧 Contact Patrick: Email: [email protected] Website: copsandwriters.com Facebook Group: Cops and Writers👍 If this story stuck with you: Subscribe, leave a review, and share with someone who thinks dying declarations are just like in the movies.🎙️ The book launches NEXT TUESDAY, March 17th. This is the last bonus chapter before launch. Thank you for listening to these snippets from the book.Support the show
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Jennifer Bucholtz: From Interrogating Enemies in Iraq & Afghanistan to Solving Cold Cases at Home (Part 2)
Send us Fan MailWelcome everyone, to the conclusion of my interview with Professor and El Paso County Sheriff’s Department Investigator Jennifer Bucholtz. Jennifer Bucholtz is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Agent, and a decorated veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. She holds a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice from Northern Arizona University, a master’s degree in criminal justice from the City University of New York’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice, and a master’s degree in forensic science from National University. Ms. Bucholtz has an extensive background in U.S. military and Department of Defense counterintelligence operations. Ms. Bucholtz is currently an adjunct faculty member at AMU and teaches courses in criminal justice and forensic sciences. Additionally, she is a cold case investigator for her local sheriff’s office, host of AMU’s investigative podcast “Break The Case,” and founder of the 501(c)3 nonprofit, Break The Case. Please enjoy this eye-opening and fascinating interview with someone who has done so many incredible things and continues to serve her community. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Meeting Lt. Joe Kenda. · Why is she so interested in cold cases?· The Steven Avery case.· The Rebecca Gould murder. Was her killer a serial killer? All the missteps of the original detectives and how she overcame those errors. · Why does she still communicate with her murderer?· Her company, Break The Case.org.· The Debbie Sue Williamson case.· What is her criteria for taking a case?· Forensic and investigative science has never been better. Why are clearances not keeping up with the science? · What’s in the future of cold cases? DNA keeps getting better, and perhaps using AI as a tool, not a replacement for humans. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Visit Break the Case!Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years! A Tale of Two Kidnappings!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast bonus series, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell reads Chapter 33, "A Tale of Two Kidnappings," from his upcoming book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City CopWith the Nancy Guthrie case dominating headlines, this chapter reveals what kidnapping calls are really like for cops—and the difference between what you see on TV and what actually happens on the streets.Most kidnapping calls are bullshit. But when they're real, every cop drops everything.The first story: One of Patrick's first nights riding solo. A "kidnapping" call that turned out to be a domestic dispute, with an unfortunate twist.The second story: A real kidnapping. A mother duct-taped to a chair, beaten unconscious by her ex in a crack cocaine-fueled rage. Her five-year-old son is missing. Every cop on the shift came together. They weren't going home until they got that child back.All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.🎧 This episode includes:Nancy Guthrie case context - "search, not a rescue."Patrick's first solo kidnapping call as a rookieThe real kidnapping: Woman beaten unconscious, five-year-old son takenHitting every crack house in the districtGood news: The kidnapper dropped the kid off at Grandma's house"He didn't have the stomach for being a dad. Five-year-olds are a lot of work."Suspect arrested in Memphis, brought back to MilwaukeeWhen it's real, every cop drops everything - "We weren't going home until we got that child back."📘 About the Book: Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City Cop is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O'Donnell's early career as a big city cop during Milwaukee's crack wars in the 1990s.Book Launch: Coming sooner than you think - stay tuned! Book Update: Pre-orders are LIVE on Amazon. The book is currently a #1 New Release in Biographies of Law Enforcement. 🔗 Pre-order now for $3.99 (price goes up after launch): Search "Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell" on Amazon or check the link below.📧 Contact Patrick: Email: [email protected] Website: copsandwriters.com Facebook Group: Cops and Writers👍 If this story stuck with you: Subscribe, leave a review, and share with someone who wants to know what real kidnapping investigations look like—not the TV version.🎙️ Next week: Back to regular programming with a guest interview.New chapters from the book continue every Wednesday night.Visit the Cops & Writers Website! Sonnet 4.5Support the show
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Jennifer Bucholtz: From Interrogating Enemies in Iraq & Afghanistan to Solving Cold Cases at Home (Part 1)
Send us Fan MailWelcome everyone to part one of my interview with Professor and El Paso County Sheriff’s Department Investigator Jennifer Bucholtz. The conclusion of this interview will air next Sunday!Jennifer Bucholtz is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Agent and a decorated veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. She holds a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice from Northern Arizona University, a master’s degree in criminal justice from the City University of New York’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice, and a master’s degree in forensic science from National University. Ms. Bucholtz has an extensive background in U.S. military and Department of Defense counterintelligence operations. Ms. Bucholtz is currently an adjunct faculty member at AMU, teaching courses in criminal justice and forensic sciences. Additionally, she is a cold-case investigator for her local sheriff’s office, host of AMU’s investigative podcast “Break The Case,” and founder of the 501(c) (3) nonprofit, Break The Case.Please enjoy this eye opening, and fascinating interview with someone who has done so many incredible things and continues to serve her community. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Jen’s Childhood and influences. · Working as a corrections officer in a maximum-security prison.· Her internship with the New York Medical Examiners' Office.· Her first death case and autopsy.· Joining the army and being a counterintelligence agent.· What it was like interrogating enemies of the United States.· Using science and intuition in her interrogations.· Body language, micro-expressions, and other clues in interrogations.· Her book, There is no GOAT.· People in Afghanistan not knowing about 9/11 or Osama Bin Laden· Post-military life and working as a contractor overseas.· Working for the State Department, teaching Indonesian police.· Being a college professor.· Her interest in cold cases. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Visit Break the Case! Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years! "Wojo!"
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast bonus series, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell reads Chapter 32, "Wojo," from his upcoming book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City CopThere were characters on the job who should have been stand-up comedians. Wojo was one of those guys.But one morning at 7:00 AM, Wojo got serious. A man barricaded himself in an apartment with a rifle pointed at his five-year-old son's head. SWAT was on the way. Hours of negotiation loomed.The way Wojo negotiated with the suspect was unorthodox but effective. All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.🎧 This episode includes:Wojo running out of gas—again—and hitchhiking to a gas stationChoir practice one-liners: "I had to feed the old lady breakfast first. A pack of Newports and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon."A 7:00 AM rifle call-subject shooting out a window at a four-family apartmentThe scene: A man in boxers, covered in sweat, rifle pointed at his terrified five-year-old son's headWatching the suspect's trigger finger: "If he moved his index finger to the trigger, I would be forced to shoot."Wojo's unorthodox negotiation tactic: "I don't want to work too much overtime."The empty rifle reveal: "What if I shot this guy who was holding an empty gun?"Walking out like heroes—Wojo carrying the suspect "like a trophy."The aftermath: Commendation written up, but later denied"Thanks for the laughs, Wojo, until we meet again."📘 About the Book: Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City Cop is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O'Donnell's early career as a big city cop during Milwaukee's crack wars in the 1990s.Book Release: Mid-March 2026 Book Update: Pre-orders are LIVE on Amazon. The book is currently a #1 New Release in Biographies of Law Enforcement. 🔗 Pre-order now for $3.99 (price goes up after launch): Search "Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell" on Amazon or check the link below.📧 Contact Patrick: Email: [email protected] Website: copsandwriters.com Facebook Group: Cops and Writers👍 If this story stuck with you: Subscribe, leave a review, and share with someone who can handle the truth about what cops see behind the badge.🎙️ Next week: We're back to regular programming with a guest interview.New chapters every Wednesday night.Visit the Cops & Writers website!Support the show
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Hunting Down The Worst Criminals in Philadelphia: Philly Warrant Unit with Tristin Kilgallon!
Send us Fan MailWelcome everyone as we travel to the city of brotherly love and Rocky, Philadelphia. Today on the show, we have former Philadelphia warrant squad member Tristin Kilgallon. Tristin grew up in Philadelphia and started his career in law enforcement with the city’s Warrant Unit, tracking fugitives and working the tough streets of Philly. Tristin later moved to Ohio to attend law school, earning a JD and LLM. Tristin went on to teach pre-law and criminal justice for more than a decade before joining LexisNexis, where he now works in the legal tech industry, helping law firms adopt AI-driven tools. He’s also the co-author of Philly Warrant Unit, a true-crime memoir about his time working fugitive apprehension in Philadelphia.Please enjoy this fun interview about a unique and small crime-fighting unit that had a large impact on crime, which no longer exists. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Growing up in the rough part of Philly. · Where and how Tristin got interested in law enforcement.· What led him to the Philly Warrant Unit, and why he didn’t pursue a career with the Philly Police.· Did his investigations ever conflict with the local PD, state, or feds?· How they picked which warrants to execute. · Knock vs. No-Knock Warrants.· The difference between a search/arrest warrant.· The prostitute calling the police on herself.· Meeting Sylvester Stallone.· Why he went into a teaching career.All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Check out the Philly Warrant Unit Facebook page. Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years. All City Assist!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast bonus series, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell reads Chapter 31, "All-City Assist," from his upcoming book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City CopRachel and Patrick are processing a routine arrest at District Five when the radio crackles to life: "245B, they're shooting at us! Send us more squads!"It's Grace—Rachel's old partner—getting shot at in a gangway next to the Blues Oasis Tavern. The dispatcher opens the channel citywide: "Any squad, assist the officers. They are taking gunfire."An all-city assist. Every cop drops everything and responds.When Rachel and Patrick arrive, they find three dead bodies, cops returning fire in a gangway, and a suspect shooting at officers with a .357 Magnum. Inside the tavern, they clear a dark basement not knowing if someone is waiting to shoot them. When they come back upstairs, Patrick looks down and sees a sea of bullet casings—more than he'd ever seen in 25 years.Three people are dead. Cops were almost killed. And a short blurb on the evening news.All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.⚠️ CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence, active shooter scenarios, and multiple deaths. Listener discretion is strongly advised.🎧 This episode includes:What "all-city assist" meansGrace's voice screaming over the radio: "They're shooting at us!"The suspect with a .357 Magnum, pretending to surrender while shooting at copsA bullet ricocheting off bricks and shattering a cop's glassesThe Marine who calmly requested backup as if he was "ordering a pizza"Patrick tripping over the first body in the gutterTwo dead victims inside—one still holding his BudweiserAuditory exclusion, tunnel vision, and the fight-or-flight responseRachel and Patrick clearing a dark basement: "You're going too fast!" "You're going too slow!"A sea of bullet casings covered the floor"Swede" tearing the suspect off a fence and crushing his collarboneChoir practice at Rookies—cops using popcorn and glasses to replay the sceneGoing home to a family who had no idea what had just happenedA short blurb on the evening news—three dead, but the public never knew the full story📘 About the Book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City Cop is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O'Donnell's early career as a big city cop during Milwaukee's crack wars in the 1990s.Book Release: Mid-March 2026Book Update: The manuscript is with the editor! Pre-orders are LIVE on Amazon. The book is currently a #1 New Release in the Biographies of Law Enforcement category.🔗 Pre-order now: Search "Police Stories: The Rookie Years Patrick O'Donnell" on Amazon or check the link below.📧 Contact Patrick:Email: [email protected]: copsandwriters.comFacebook Group: Cops and Writers👍 If this story stuck with you:Subscribe, leave a review, and share with someone who can handle the truth about what cops see behind the badge.New chapters every Wednesday night.Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Support the show
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Michael Dilks, Undercover Narcotics Cop Being The Target of a FBI and DEA Investigation! (Part Two)
Send us Fan MailWelcome back everyone for the conclusion to my interview with retired Central Florida Sheriff Deputy Michael Dilks. Mike is a retired Deputy Sheriff and Police Officer with 23 years with experience in patrol, investigations, and undercover narcotics. Mike was a member of SWAT, the United States Marshals Fugitive Task Force, the DEA Narcotics Task Force and supervised a Street Crimes Unit. Prior to his law enforcement career, Mike served three years in the United States Army as an Airborne Infantryman.Michael is the mastermind behind the highly successful and controversial meme page @CopvilleOG and the Lock’d Up with Copville Podcast. Michael is also the co-host and co-owner of The Anti-Hero Broadcast.Mike was involved in and was 100% invested in his career, especially doing undercover narcotics work, and it cost him his marriage and sobriety. Mike’s personal rock bottom, that included being the focus of an FBI investigation and his best friend and Sheriff turning his back on him. He rose above all of it and has turned his energy into a successful podcast and creative content career.Please enjoy this eye opening, and informative interview with someone who has risen from the ashes. In today’s episode, we discuss:· The bitter end to his law enforcement career. · His wife and daughter working for the crocked Sheriff who forced him to retire.· What can be done to retore law enforcement today?· What real community policing looks like.· Cops fall in love with the job and don’t know what to do when the job doesn’t love them back.· Where his entrepreneurial spirit came from.· Copville, The Antihero Podcast, and other businesses. How he balance’s work and family?· The Antihero broadcast. · Mike has been exposed to a lot of good and bad stuff. Has it pushed him away or towards God or a higher power? All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Connect with Michael Dilks:Instagram: @copvilleogPodcast Instagram: @the_antihero_podcastWebsite: www.copvilleog.comYouTube: / @copvilleog Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Check out my newest book! Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos & Life as a Big City Cop!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years. Wow! That's Realistic!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast bonus series, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell reads Chapter 28, "Wow! That's Realistic!" from his upcoming book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City CopIt's 2:00 AM at District Five. Patrick and his partner Rachel are processing an arrest when a bloodcurdling scream echoes from the front lobby: "Help! He's been shot!"What they find is a dead body with a gunshot wound to the head, a grieving girlfriend, and—behind the victim—District Five's crime prevention display: a casket surrounded by yellow crime scene tape for Police Week.Hours later, after the body is removed, but the blood remains, the captain walks through and delivers the perfect line: "Damn, that is one realistic crime scene display!"All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.🎧 This episode includes:Why Rachel didn't want to work with Patrick (Grace told her everything)The silent treatment shift: eight hours, no breaks, zero conversationA running gunfight between two couples that ends in District Five's lobbyThe anti-drunk driving display with a real casket and crime scene tape"Oh, the irony of it all."How dark humor helps cops survive the worst nights📘 About the Book: Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City Cop is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O'Donnell's early career as a big city cop during Milwaukee's crack wars in the 1990s.Book Release: Mid-March 2026 Book Update: The manuscript is with the editor! Pre-orders are LIVE on Amazon. The book is currently a #1 New Release in the Biographies of Law Enforcement category.🔗 Pre-order now: Search "Police Stories: The Rookie Years Patrick O'Donnell" on Amazon or check the link below.📧 Contact Patrick: Email: [email protected] Website: copsandwriters.com Facebook Group: Cops and Writers👍 If this story stuck with you: Subscribe, leave a review, and share with someone who can handle the truth about what cops see behind the badge.🎙️ Next week: Chapter 31, "All-City Assist" - Three dead bodies, cops taking fire, and a sea of bullet casings at the Blues Oasis. The most intense chapter in the book.New chapters every Wednesday night.Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Support the show
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Michael Dilks: Undercover Narcotics Cop Being The Target of a FBI and DEA Investigation! (Part One)
Send us Fan MailWelcome, everyone to part one of my interview with retired Central Florida Sheriff's Deputy Michael Dilks. The conclusion of this interview will air next Sunday!Mike is a retired Deputy Sheriff and Police Officer with 23 years of experience in patrol, investigations, and undercover narcotics. Mike was a member of SWAT, the United States Marshals Fugitive Task Force, the DEA Narcotics Task Force and supervised a Street Crimes Unit. Prior to his law enforcement career, Mike served three years in the United States Army as an Airborne Infantryman.Michael is the mastermind behind the highly successful and controversial meme page @CopvilleOG and the Lock’d Up with Copville Podcast. Michael is also the co-host and co-owner of The Anti-Hero Broadcast.Mike was involved in and was 100% invested in his career, especially doing undercover narcotics work, and it cost him his marriage and sobriety. Mike’s personal rock bottom, which included being the focus of an FBI investigation and his best friend and the sheriff turning his back on him. He rose above all of it and has turned his energy into a successful podcast and creative content career.Please enjoy this eye-opening and informative interview with someone who has risen from the ashes. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Where and how he got interested in law enforcement. · His time in the United States Army.· Being on the SWAT team.· Being assigned to a DEA task force.· Going undercover as a narcotics officer.· Having a dirty cop as a boss. · Being married to the job, not his wife.· Hitting rock bottom, abusing alcohol, and a negative lifestyle.· Being accused of working with drug dealers!· Being the focus of an FBI investigation and having his phone tapped.· The sheriff, also his best friend, turned his back on him. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Connect with Michael Dilks:Instagram: @copvilleogPodcast Instagram: @the_antihero_podcast Website: www.copvilleog.com YouTube: / @copvilleog Visit the Cops & Writers Website!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years. Cannibal Dad!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell reads Chapter 18, Cannibal Dad, from his upcoming book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City CopFresh off probation and officially a "real cop," Patrick rides for the first time without a senior officer alongside his academy classmate, Tommie. What starts as an exciting milestone—two rookies on top of the world—turns into one of the most disturbing calls of Patrick's twenty-five-year career when they respond to a family trouble call at 7:00 AM.All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.⚠️ CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence involving a father and daughter. Listener discretion is strongly advised.🎧 This episode includes:Patrick received his District Five Honor and Valor tie bar after getting off probation.The first shift riding with Tommie—no training officer, just two rookies.A family trouble call that starts with the smell of booze and a blood-stained shirt."My daddy bit my nose off!"The head-through-drywall moment: "Holy shit, O'Donnell! We k*lled him!"A father who swallowed part of his daughter's nose and "smacked his lips as if he'd just finished a steak dinner."The moment two rookie cops realize just how dark the job can get.📘 About the Book: Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City Cop is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O'Donnell's early career as a big city cop during Milwaukee's crack wars in the 1990s.Book release: March 2026Book Update: The introduction and book description are complete! We're on track for the March 2026 launch. Subscribe to be notified when pre-orders go live.📧 Contact Patrick: Email: [email protected] Website: copsandwriters.com Facebook Group: Cops and Writers👍 If this story stuck with you: Subscribe, leave a review, and share with someone who can handle the truth about what cops see behind the badge.🎙️ New chapters every Wednesday night.Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Support the show
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Going Undercover With Las Vegas Metro Police Sergeant Jenn Benjamins! (Part Two)
Send us Fan MailWhat happens in Vegas stays in Vegas? Not today. Welcome back, everyone, to the conclusion of my interview with retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Sergeant Jenn Benjamins. Jenn Benjamins is a retired sergeant from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department with nearly 22 years of real-world experience in patrol, case investigations, and covert/undercover operations.Her interest in undercover work led her to the Vice Section, where she refused to be limited by traditional expectations. While excelling in female undercover roles, Jenn was determined - and succeeded - in working undercover alongside her male counterparts. She developed a specialized training program within the Vice Section, implemented policy, and conducted department-wide training on vice crimes and related laws.Throughout her career, Jenn worked a wide variety of undercover assignments throughout Las Vegas, collaborating not only with specialized units such as narcotics but also with federal partners, including the ATF, DEA, and FBI. Recognizing a critical need, Jenn founded Covert Blue, where she makes it her mission to provide specialized training for women in undercover roles - programs that build technical expertise while also addressing the unique dynamics and challenges women face in the field.Please enjoy this very real and informative interview with someone who has lived a life that is found more often in movies and books. Vegas baby! In today’s episode, we discuss:· How long did she work in Vice as a cop and sergeant doing UC work? · Where did these prostitutes come from?· What’s a trick roll?· What’s the difference between a carpet ho and a renegade ho?· The most memorable arrests or situations she had during her career? · Your company Covert Blue LLC, why start this and who is it for?· The personal toll that working vice takes on a cop.· Best advice for someone who wants to work as an undercover cop. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Check out Jenn's website!Visit the Cops & Writers Website!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years. Pistol Packing Grandma Moses!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O’Donnell reads Chapter 12, Pistol Packing Grandma Moses, from his upcoming book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years - True Crime, Chaos, & My Life as a Big City CopWhile still a rookie cop "warhorsing" (filling in for other officers), Patrick partners with DJ, a 6'5", 300-pound gentle giant and former Chicago Bears. What starts as a routine 911 hang-up call and a tree branch banging on a roof turns into one of the most terrifying moments of Patrick's early career.All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.🎧 This episode includes:-A drunk college kid learning why you don't refuse entry to cops on a welfare check.-An elderly woman is convinced someone is breaking into her attic. -A cocked .38 revolver aimed at a rookie cop's back. -The moment Patrick realizes Grandma Moses almost "put a cap in his ass." -Dark humor, near-death by a sweet old lady, and another day on Milwaukee's streets.📘 About the Book: Police Stories: The Rookie Years, True Crime, Chaos, & Life as a Big City Cop is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O'Donnell's early career as a big city cop during the 1990s. Book release: March 2026.📧 Contact Patrick: Email: [email protected] Social Media: [your handles]👍 If this story stuck with you: Subscribe, leave a review, and share with someone who appreciates real stories from behind the badge.🎙️ New chapters every Wednesday night.Visit the Cops & Writers Website!Support the show
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Going Undercover With Las Vegas Metro Police Sergeant Jenn Benjamins! (Part One)
Send us Fan MailWhat happens in Vegas stays in Vegas? Not today. Welcome, everyone, to part one of my interview with retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Sergeant Jenn Benjamins. The conclusion of this interview will be next Sunday!Jenn Benjamins is a retired sergeant from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department with nearly 22 years of real-world experience in patrol, case investigations, and covert/undercover operations.She began her career in patrol before moving into Community Oriented Policing, serving in one of the newest area commands in the oldest, most historic parts of Las Vegas. Her interest in undercover work led her to the Vice Section, where she refused to be limited by traditional expectations. While excelling in female undercover roles, Jenn was determined - and succeeded - in working undercover alongside her male counterparts. She went on to develop a specialized training program within the Vice Section, implement policy, and conduct department-wide training on vice crimes and related laws.Throughout her career, Jenn worked a wide variety of undercover assignments throughout Las Vegas, collaborating not only with specialized units such as narcotics but also with federal partners, including the ATF, DEA, and FBI. Recognizing a critical need, Jenn founded Covert Blue, where she makes it her mission to provide specialized training for women in undercover roles - programs that build technical expertise while also addressing the unique dynamics and challenges women face in the field.Please enjoy this eye-opening, entertaining, and informative interview with someone who has lived a life that is found more often in movies and books. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Where and how she got interested in law enforcement. · Why be a cop in Vegas?· Jenn’s experience in the police academy being one of the few females in her class.· Her first day of field training.· An armed suspect firing at an airship on her first assignment.· Her first day going out solo when she finished field training. · First time riding the lightning (Taser) during training.· Jenn’s crazy pepper spray story.· How soon she started doing undercover work. Was she ready?· Her first time being an undercover prostitute and an interesting question she didn’t know how to answer.· Arresting pimps and other prostitutes for pandering. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Check out Jenn's website!Visit the Cops & Writers Website!What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Police Stories: The Rookie Years. Introduction and Baptism By Fire!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast, retired Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O’Donnell reads the Introduction and Chapter 1, Baptism By Fire! from his upcoming book:Police Stories: The Rookie Years — True Crime, Chaos, & My Life as a Big City CopThese are true stories from Patrick’s first years working the streets of Milwaukee during the height of the crack wars—stories of chaos, dark humor, tragedy, and survival that don’t make it onto TV shows.All stories are real. Names and locations have been changed where necessary.🎧 This episode includes: – O'Donnell facing a life-or-death situation in his first week of field training – Being in a trauma room watching a doctor perform open-heart massage – True crime, gallows humor, and raw street-level reality📘 About the Book: Police Stories: The Rookie Years is a true crime memoir chronicling Patrick O’Donnell’s early career as a big city cop.👍 Like, comment, and share if this story resonated with you.Visit the Cops & Writers Website! Support the show
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Fifty Shades of True Crime: Sex, Drugs, & Killer Kink With Anchorage Police Officer Doug Fifer
Send us Fan MailHey everyone! Today, we are going north, way north, to the last frontier, Anchorage, Alaska, with Author and retired Anchorage Police Officer Doug Fifer. And we are getting kinky. Doug Fifer is a retired Alaskan police officer who specialized in crime scene analysis, deviant sexual crimes, hostage negotiations, and various special assignments throughout his twenty-five-year career. As a highly decorated investigator, Doug has negotiated with serial killers, solved homicides, and worked real-life cases that will shock you to the core.Doug is also the author of the bestselling book, Fifty Shades of True Crime: Sex, Drugs, and Killer Kink. I thought I had been there and seen it all after 25 years as a big city cop. After this interview, I realized I haven’t. Please enjoy my conversation with Doug Fifer. In today’s episode, we discuss:· When and where Doug got interested in law enforcement. · Growing up in the last frontier, Alaska.· Alaska has the highest percentage of serial killers per capita of anywhere else? Why?· Heroin and crack usage in Alaska.· A shocking tattoo on a man who turned tricks for dope in prison.· The Serial Killer Joshua Wait investigation. · Hostage negotiations, best practices for a desirable outcome. Not like on TV.· The story of high trauma to a penis.· Fifty Shades of True Crime: Sex, Drugs, and Killer Kink. Did his mom read this book?· David Carradine and Auto Erotic Asphyxiation. How many cases like that did he investigate?· Bestiality, necrophilia, and other disturbing behavior. How prevalent was that in Anchorage? The answer will surprise you. All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Visit Doug's Website! Visit the Cops & Writers Website! What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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How And Why Narco-Terrorist Maduro Was Captured & Arrested in Venezuela!
Send us Fan Mail Welcome, everyone, to a special Cops and Writers Podcast. Due to the nature and timing of our topic today, I released this episode early. Back in late October, retired DEA Agents (legends) Steve Murphy, Wes Tabor, and Chris Feistl predicted on the Cops and Writers Podcast episodes 250 and 251, that the U.S. would take the fight to Maduro and attack on land. On January 3, 2026, the U.S. captured Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, in a military operation in Caracas, Venezuela. I have heard so many opinions on this from ‘experts’, I'm using air quotes, living in social media-fueled echo chambers, and I wanted to get the true story. So I brought back my experts in narco-terrorism, drug cartels, and international drug smuggling, Steve, Wes, and Chris. Here’s an intro to my experts for today’s show.Retired DEA Special Agent Wes Tabor (episodes 235,236, & 237). Wes was embedded in Venezuela, battling the drug cartel and gangs for three years. He had a front-row seat to the prospering drug trade and threat to the United States and wrote the book, Infiltrate America: Blood Routes and the Rise of Latin American Gangs. So, of course, I asked him to be on the show again, and he graciously agreed. Of course, I would be remiss if I were going to be talking about drug cartels and smuggling, not to have two experts who took down some of the most notorious drug cartels and their leaders in modern times. Steve Murphy and Chris Feistl. Retired DEA Special Agent Steve Murphy and his partner Javier Pena are best known for taking down the Medellin Cartel and its leader, Pablo Escobar. Steve is an expert in drug smuggling and cartels and is considered an expert in the world of narcoterrorism. Steve and Javier’s work was featured in many television documentaries and was featured in the Netflix special, DEA Narcos.Retired DEA Special Agent Chris Feistl and his partner Dave Mitchell are best known for taking down the Cali Cartel and its leaders Gilberto and Miguel Rodríguez Orejuela. Chris’s work was featured in many television documentaries and was also featured in season three of the Netflix special DEA Narcos.After listening to these three experts explain recent operations in Venezuela, I have gained valuable insights into why we arrested Maduro and his wife. I hope this clears things up for you as well. Please enjoy my conversation with these DEA legends and experts. In today’s episode, we discuss:· &nbWhat's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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FBI Special Agent Séamus McElearney and Flipping Capo: How the FBI Dismantled the Real Sopranos. (Part Two)
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back, everyone, for the conclusion of my interview with Author and retired FBI Special Agent Seamus McElearney. Séamus McElearney began his distinguished career with the FBI in 1998, joining Squad C-10 of the New York Organized Crime Branch. Tasked with investigating the Bonanno and DeCavalcante crime families—infamously known as “the real Sopranos.”In December 1999, he was assigned to arrest Anthony Capo, a violent soldier in the DeCavalcante family, as part of a sweeping indictment. Not only did he safely execute the arrest, but he also achieved a historic breakthrough: persuading Capo to become the first made member in the family’s century-long history to cooperate with law enforcement. This unprecedented move triggered a domino effect of cooperation that ultimately led to the dismantling of the DeCavalcante family. In all, 71 defendants were convicted, and 11 murders were solved. Following this six-year investigation, Séamus was promoted to lead Squad C-38, overseeing the Colombo crime family. Under his leadership, the squad dismantled the Colombos through a series of operations—including spearheading the largest Mafia takedown in FBI history. As Supervisor, Séamus oversaw investigations that led to the conviction of more than 200 defendants and the resolution of 20 murders.Throughout his career as an Agent and Supervisor, Séamus helped convict ten Mafia bosses, recover five bodies, and solve the murder of an NYPD officer. He was part of historic FBI teams that dismantled three organized crime families—an achievement no one else can claim.Seamus is also the author of the popular book, Flipping Capo: How the FBI Dismantled the Real Sopranos.I’m a fan of the TV show The Sopranos, so it was amazing listening to Seamus explain how the “Real Sopranos” operated and how they were dismantled and brought to justice by Seamus and his team. Please enjoy my conversation with Seamus! In today’s episode, we discuss:· How he got Capo to flip. What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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FBI Special Agent Séamus McElearney and Flipping Capo: How the FBI Dismantled the Real Sopranos. (Part One)
Send us Fan Mail Welcome, everyone, to part one of my interview with Author and retired FBI Special Agent Seamus McElearney. Come back next Sunday for the conclusion of my interview with Seamus. Séamus McElearney began his distinguished career with the FBI in 1998, joining Squad C-10 of the New York Organized Crime Branch. Tasked with investigating the Bonanno and DeCavalcante crime families—infamously known as “the real Sopranos.”In December 1999, he was assigned to arrest Anthony Capo, a violent soldier in the DeCavalcante family, as part of a sweeping indictment. Not only did he safely execute the arrest, but he also achieved a historic breakthrough: persuading Capo to become the first made member in the family’s century-long history to cooperate with law enforcement. This unprecedented move triggered a domino effect of cooperation that ultimately led to the dismantling of the DeCavalcante family. In all, 71 defendants were convicted; 11 murders were solved. As a result, Séamus and the team received the U.S. Attorney’s Office Director’s Award.Following this six-year investigation, Séamus was promoted to lead Squad C-38, overseeing the Colombo crime family. Under his leadership, the squad dismantled the Colombos through a series of operations—including spearheading the largest Mafia takedown in FBI history. The Bonanno squad was later merged into C-38 under his command.As Supervisor, Séamus oversaw investigations that led to the conviction of more than 200 defendants and the resolution of 20 murders.Throughout his career as an Agent and Supervisor, Séamus helped convict ten Mafia bosses, recover five bodies, and solve the murder of an NYPD officer. He was part of historic FBI teams that dismantled three organized crime families—an achievement no one else can claim.Seamus is also the author of the popular book, Flipping Capo: How the FBI Dismantled the Real Sopranos.I’m a fan of the TV show The Sopranos, so it was amazing listening to Seamus explain how the “Real Sopranos” operated and how they were dismantled and brought to justice by Seamus and his team. Please enjoy my conversation with Seamus! In today’s episode we discuss:· Growing up in the Bronx as a first-generation Irish-American.What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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I'm Glad I Went To Prison! Locked In With Ian Bick!
Send us Fan Mail Welcome everyone to a very special Cops and Writers with my friend Ian Bick. Back in November, I visited Ian at his studio in Connecticut, where Ian interviewed me (That episode went live on 12-16-25 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-in-with-ian-bick/id1662286355?i=1000741596571, https://open.spotify.com/episode/7EWrquIqAYL4z0FbW3xDE0?si=39oDYHc3SEGiwBT8udhxhw, https://youtu.be/aU5xLdhR_5s?si=Tdarr4_9xdd3p0mK) and he was gracious enough to let me interview him. First off, I have to thank the most awesome and legend in the law enforcement community, retired DEA Special Agent, Author, Podcast Host, Public Speaker, and all-around good guy, Steve Murphy, for the introduction. You may know Steve from the Netflix story, DEA Narcos, and his popular Game of Crimes Podcast. Ian Bick is an entrepreneur, storyteller, and host of the hit podcast Locked In with Ian Bick, where he explores real stories of incarceration, redemption, and the human capacity for change. His content has reached hundreds of millions of viewers across YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and Spotify.At 18, Ian became one of the youngest nightclub owners in the country. But the rapid success came with high pressure, debt, and a gambling addiction that led him to make destructive choices. At 21, he was convicted of federal wire fraud and served three years in federal prison.In January 2023, he launched Locked In with Ian Bick, a podcast that gives a platform to former inmates, law enforcement, attorneys, survivors, and others whose lives intersect with the criminal justice system.Today, the show has become one of the fastest-growing justice-focused podcasts in the country, known for its raw honesty, emotional depth, and willingness to go where most media won’t.Ian now speaks in prisons, schools, recovery programs, and reentry organizations across the United States, connecting with people who feel stuck or defined by their mistakes. His message is real and rooted in lived experience.It was such a pleasure getting to know Ian and his producer, Matt (Matty Ice). They rolled out the red carpet for me and made this an incredible experience. As of today’s recording, one of the TikTok reels Ian made from my interview is getting close to half a million views! https://www.tiktok.com/@ianbick/video/7584901104773729566?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7145094841457509930 In today’s episode, we discuss:What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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NYPD: Behind The Blue Wall Of Silence With Author, Podcaster, & NYPD Detective Vic Ferrari
Send us Fan Mail Hey cops and writers, thanks for being here with us today for another episode of the Cops and Writers podcast! I’m Patrick O’Donnell, and I will be your host for today’s show.Before I start, can I ask you all a favor? If you are enjoying this podcast, could you please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify? It is so important, thank you.This show is listener supported, so thanks to all of you who keep this show going!I would especially like to thank those of you who are patrons of the show. Most notably, Frances Sheldrick, Kathleen Donnelly, Fran Cross, Katherine Kovacic, Richard Towles, Ryan Ta, Carl Vonderau, Melinda Colt, Jodi Burnett, and Richard Rybicki.Your generosity helps pay for the software, equipment, and my time producing this show. Yes, you too can become a patron for less than a cup of coffee or a pint of Guinness. Just go to patreon.com/copsandwriters. Welcome everyone, for my interview with my friend, podcaster, author, and retired NYPD Detective, Vic Ferrari. Vic worked a distinguished twenty-year career with the NYPD as a patrol officer and later moved up to the organized crime unit, working in the auto theft squad as a detective.Vic is now an author with nine books published, the most recent NYPD: Behind The Blue Wall Of Silence, and host of his very popular podcast, NYPD Through The Looking Glass. It’s always fun chatting with Vic and hearing his stories from the NYPD. Please enjoy my conversation with the one and only, Vic Ferrari! In today’s episode, we discuss:· Vic explains the title and intro to his newest book, NYPD: Behind The Blue Wall Of Silence. · A nude sunbathing cop What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Former California State Assemblyman Mike Gatto-Trying To Solve His Father's Murder.
Send us Fan Mail Hey cops and writers, thanks for being here with us today for another episode of the Cops and Writers podcast! I’m Patrick O’Donnell, and I will be your host for today’s show.Before I start, can I ask you all a favor? If you are enjoying this podcast, could you please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify? It is so important, thank you.This show is listener-supported, so thanks to all of you who keep this show going!I would especially like to thank those of you who are patrons of the show. Most notably, Frances Sheldrick, Kathleen Donnelly, Frank Cross, Katherine Kovacic, Richard Towles, Ryan Ta, Carl Vonderau, Melinda Colt, Jodi Burnett, and Richard Rybicki.Your generosity helps pay for the software, equipment, and my time producing this show. Yes, you too can become a patron for less than a cup of coffee or a pint of Guinness. Just go to patreon.com/copsandwriters. Welcome everyone, for my interview with attorney, author, former California State Assemblyman, and son of a murdered father, Mike Gatto. Mike Gatto served four terms in the California Legislature, representing Los Angeles. He chaired the Appropriations Committee, served as Assistant Speaker, and authored several pieces of landmark legislation. On November 13, 2013, his father, Joseph Gatto, was brutally murdered in a home-invasion robbery, which remains unsolved.Mike wrote the book, Noir by Necessity: How My Father's Unsolved Murder Took Me to Dark Places, which documents his father’s brutal murder and the investigation that took place. Mike takes the reader along with him, witnessing Mike’s frustration, anger, and grief. It was indeed an honor to talk with Mike. He was honest and sincere, taking me to places during the interview I didn’t expect. I hope and pray that someday soon the killer in this case is brought to justice and the Gatto family can get some much-deserved answers. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Why Mike went into politics and what his wife thought. What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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From An Orphanage In Ireland To The West Wing. A.D.A., Police Superintendent, Professor, Author, & Podcaster, Patrick Welsh. (Part Two)
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back, everyone, to the conclusion of my interview with former Assistant District Attorney, Police Superintendent, Professor, Podcaster, and Author Patrick Welsh. Pat Welsh was an ADA turned cop. During his distinguished career, he rose through the ranks to become superintendent of the Dayton Police Department. He worked and supervised in patrol, investigations, including narcotics and homicide. He received numerous commendations, department citations, and awards of merit. He also taught the DPD Academy to recruits and in-service.Pat is a graduate of the prestigious FBI National Academy, the Ohio Police Executive Leadership College, and the Secret Service Executive Protection for Command Officers.Retired in 2012 and joined the Southern Police Institute, the University of Louisville, as an adjunct instructor/professor, teaching: Legal Issues in Prosecuting Homicides; Leadership; Command Officer Development. From an orphanage in Dublin, Ireland, to the West Wing of the White House and everything in between. I had a blast talking Irish and police stuff with Pat. I think you’re going to like it, too. Please enjoy the conclusion of my interview with Pat Welsh! In today’s episode, we discuss:· What was the academy like, being a former ADA? · Was being a police officer what you thought it would be? Did you ever regret switching over to the PD?· Stories of protecting presidents and their wives, pros, and cons.What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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From An Orphanage In Ireland To The West Wing. A.D.A., Police Superintendent, Professor, Author, & Podcaster, Patrick Welsh. (Part One)
Send us Fan Mail Welcome everyone to part one of my interview with former Assistant District Attorney, Police Superintendent, Professor, Podcaster, and Author Patrick Welsh. Pat Welsh was an ADA turned cop. During his distinguished career, he rose through the ranks to become superintendent of the Dayton Police Department. He worked and supervised in patrol, investigations, including narcotics and homicide. He received numerous commendations, department citations, and awards of merit. He also taught at the DPD Academy to recruits and in-service.Pat is a graduate of the prestigious FBI National Academy, the Ohio Police Executive Leadership College, and the Secret Service Executive Protection for Command Officers.Retired in 2012 and joined the Southern Police Institute, the University of Louisville as an adjunct instructor/professor, teaching: Legal Issues in Prosecuting Homicides; Leadership; Command Officer Development. From an orphanage in Dublin, Ireland, to the west wing of the White House and everything in between. I had a blast talking Irish and police stuff with Pat. I think you’re going to like it as well. Please enjoy Part One of my interview with Pat Welsh!In today’s episode, we discuss:· Being in an orphanage in Ireland and being adopted by an American couple. · Going back and visiting the orphanage that he was left at.· Discovering and contacting his birth mother and half-sister decades after his adoption. What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Combat to Cop. Iraq Army Vet & Sheriff Deputy Tyler Hoover Walks Away From Law Enforcement & Pivots Hosting The Antihero Podcast (Part 2)
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back, everyone, for the conclusion of my interview with Army Veteran, retired Sheriff Deputy, and host of the popular Antihero podcast, Tyler Hoover. Tyler Hoover is a United States Army Airborne Infantry Iraq War Veteran, having served with the esteemed 82nd Airborne Division. After serving his country in the army, he continued serving as a sheriff's deputy in two different counties in Florida, working in different roles, including SWAT and other special units. Tyler walked away from law enforcement and is now focused on his wildly popular Antihero Podcast and other entrepreneurial pursuits. Please enjoy the conclusion of my interview with Tyler Hoover. In today’s episode, we discuss:· The lack of organized gangs in Orlando.· Tyler’s Voodoo call. · Tyler’s decision to leave law enforcement after nine years on the job.· Tyler starting three different businesses while working full-time as a cop. What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Combat to Cop. Iraq Army Vet & Sheriff Deputy Tyler Hoover Walks Away From Law Enforcement & Pivots Hosting The Antihero Podcast (Part One)
Send us Fan Mail Welcome everyone to part one of my interview with Army Veteran, retired Sheriff Deputy, and host of the popular Antihero podcast, Tyler Hoover. Tyler Hoover is a United States Army Airborne Infantry Iraq War Veteran, having served with the esteemed 82nd Airborne Division. After serving his country in the army, he continued serving as a sheriff's deputy in two different counties in Florida, working in different roles, including SWAT. Tyler walked away from law enforcement and is now focused on his wildly popular Antihero Podcast and other entrepreneurial pursuits. Please enjoy Part One of my interview with Tyler Hoover. In today’s episode, we discuss:· When he got bitten by the police bug, and the influence of his dad being a cop. · Why are some women attracted to a man in uniform?· How time in the military can be a help or a hindrance when you become a cop.· The different SWAT training. What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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The Clear & Present Danger To The Untied States From Narcoterrorism Stemming From Venezuela & South America (Part Two)
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back, everyone, for the conclusion of my interview with retired DEA Special Agents Steve Murphy, Chris Feistl, and Wes Tabor as we talk about recent maritime operations in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific involving the U.S. Navy eliminating drug running vessels. Here’s a little bit about these legends in the DEA.DEA Special Agent Wes Tabor was embedded in Venezuela, battling the drug cartel and gangs for three years. He had a front-row seat to the prospering drug trade and threat to the United States and wrote the book, Infiltrate America: Blood Routes and the Rise of Latin American Gangs. Retired DEA Special Agent Steve Murphy and his partner Javier Pena are best known for taking down the Medellin Cartel and its leader, Pablo Escobar. Steve is an expert in drug smuggling and cartels and is considered an expert in the world of narcoterrorism. Steve and Javier’s work was featured in many television documentaries and was featured in the Netflix special, DEA Narcos.Retired DEA Special Agent Chris Feistl and his partner Dave Mitchell are best known for taking down the Cali Cartel and its leaders Gilberto and Miguel Rodríguez Orejuela. Chris’s work was featured in many television documentaries and was also featured in season three of the Netflix special DEA Narcos.After listening to these three experts, it is clearer than ever to me that narcoterrorism is brewing in South and Central America is a clear and present danger to our country. Please enjoy this eye-opening and informative interview with real experts and not celebrities or people stuck in their echo chambers making stuff up as they go along.In today’s episode, we discuss:· What gives us the legal right to conduct these maritime operations?. · The Maduro family tree of drug running.· What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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The Clear & Present Danger To The United States From Narcoterrorism Stemming From Venezuela & South America (Part One)
Send us Fan Mail Welcome, everyone, to a special Cops and Writers Podcast. Since September, the US Navy has destroyed at least 10 vessels that were suspected of carrying illegal drugs headed for the United States, mostly in the Caribbean near Venezuela. I have heard so many opinions on this from ‘experts’, I'm using air quotes, and I wanted to get the true story. My mind went immediately to my interviews with retired DEA Special Agent Wes Tabor (episodes 235,236, & 237). Wes was embedded in Venezuela, battling the drug cartel and gangs for three years. He had a front-row seat to the prospering drug trade and threat to the United States and wrote the book, Infiltrate America: Blood Routes and the Rise of Latin American Gangs. So, of course, I asked him to be on the show again, and he graciously agreed. Of course, I would be remiss if I were going to be talking about drug cartels and smuggling not to have two experts who took down some of the most notorious drug cartels and their leaders in modern times. Steve Murphy and Chris Feistl. Retired DEA Special Agent Steve Murphy and his partner Javier Pena are best known for taking down the Medellin Cartel and its leader, Pablo Escobar. Steve is an expert in drug smuggling and cartels and is considered an expert in the world of narcoterrorism. Steve and Javier’s work was featured in many television documentaries and was featured in the Netflix special, DEA Narcos.Retired DEA Special Agent Chris Feistl and his partner Dave Mitchell are best known for taking down the Cali Cartel and its leaders Gilberto and Miguel Rodríguez Orejuela. Chris’s work was featured in many television documentaries and was also featured in season three of the Netflix special DEA Narcos.After listening to these three experts, it is clearer than ever to me that the narcoterrorism that is brewing in South America is a clear and present danger to our country. I feel this topic is so important that I’m doing an early release of this episode and will air the conclusion of this episode this Sunday. Please enjoy this eye-opening and informative interview with actual experts and not celebrities or people stuck in their echo chambers making stuff up as they go along. In today’s episode, we discuss:· Since September, the US Navy has destroyed at least 10 vessels that were suspected of carrying illegal drugs headed for the United States, mostly in the Caribbean near Venezuela. What's the craziest thing you saw when you were a cop?My first week on the job, a guy running at me with a butcher knife. He'd just killed his brother over the last hot dog.That's chapter 1. There are 33 more.Police Stories: The Rookie Years just launched - available on Amazon. Search 'Police Stories Patrick O'Donnell' or click thSupport the show
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Cops and Writers is a podcast hosted by retired police sergeant and author, Patrick O'Donnell. The podcast provides valuable insights and humor for crime writers who want to create accurate and believable police stories. O'Donnell conducts in-depth interviews with members of law enforcement and civilian experts, discussing police procedures and culture. He also interviews crime fiction writers and writers from different genres, discussing what works in the ever-changing landscape of book sales and publishing. The podcast offers candid stories told with cop humor and technical details about the world of law enforcement.
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