Clear Eyed; Not Hopeless

Clear Eyed; Not Hopeless This is the finale of the five part series Shell Shocked: Moral Injury and the Leaders Carrying It   With special guest Dr. Debra Borys, a clinical psychologist licensed in California with long-standing interest and concern for nature and the environment. She is co-founder and co-chair of the LA County Psychological Association Eco-Psychology Special Interest Group, an active member of the Climate Psychology Alliance of North America and a trained Climate Café leader.  You can find Dr Borys here and you can get on her wait list here  in order to gain access to the workshops she and Nikyta Palmisani created.  The hardest conversation of the series. And the most important one. In this finale episode, Charlene Norman and Dr. Debra Borys go to the place most podcasts won't. What does it mean to look honestly at where we are — the climate crisis, the collapse of institutional trust, the poly-crisis unravelling in real time — without flinching, without denial, and without false hope? And what does it mean to keep going anyway?  Three things you'll take away: Why grief and joy are not opposites. What happens when you stop defending against one to protect the other? Jem Bendell's six R's of deep adaptation. A framework for anyone who has accepted that the road ahead is genuinely uncertain and wants to know how to orient themselves anyway One simple sensory practice that costs nothing, takes minutes, and reconnects you to the world you're trying to protect The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.  Becausing addressing business stewardship climate risk and leadership together is in the highest good for all.  Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.