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EPISODE · Jun 22, 2026 · 33 MIN

Condoor & Zonneplan: Where the Build-Buy Line Moves Next

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Michiel van der Deijl (Condoor), Maarten Bode (Zonneplan) and Jeroen Jacobs (Cloudar, on AWS co-host duty) on building a lot yourself while buying the rest from AWS, where that build-buyline moves next, and what it does to the guardrails around an AI talking to 220,000 customers. Recorded live at the AWS Summit in Amsterdam.

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